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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: sonorandose]
    #14636737 - 06/19/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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America is a country full of religious nut bags with notions that drugs such as mushies and other psychedelics are a direct pathway to paganism/occult/satanism.  I dont see it happening in my lifetime, not while they make the rules.

but i've been told all my life that history repeats itself, so maybe they'll be unknown for a short time before being demonized again



this^ 
We couldn't even use stem cells to heal the sick because of these assholes.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: sigma_zero]
    #14717611 - 07/04/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

anything that gains a reputation of "opening your perception and causes you to question the way things are" will remain illegal and any future discoveries that fall into that line of thought will be made illegal. questions are the worst nightmare of any establishment(govt-wise speaking).


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: poiuytrewa]
    #14758915 - 07/12/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly, cannabis in small personal quantities is barely illegal in California now- it's a parking ticket and if you've got a mean officer, even if you don't have a license. If you have a license, and use them for yourself, and don't drive on it, it's already legal in many states. Not that I agree with many things that have become legal and are becoming legal- look at what has. You can legally pay hit-men low prices to KILL UNBORN BABIES in most parts of the world and have been able to for a while now, gays are no doubt going to be able to get married anywhere/be tolerated too most everywhere in the next decades, cannabis will undoubtedly be decriminalized in at least one state in the next 5 years, and fully legalized within a couple decades across the globe. But, the key word here is decriminalized- like you can grow and use your own, maybe be able to distribute very small quantities to friends 18 and over. Don't think you realize how socially liberal and fact based the upcoming generation has become. Will only get more and more liberal, as governments work together strongly to achieve similar peaceful goals- like a light version of Brave New World. I have no doubt in my mind that all natural drugs you can grow- weed, shrooms, peyote, ayahuasca etc. will at least become decriminalized within the next 50 years. But, it's all good anyhow, because as long as your careful and don't sell to others, using mainly for personal consumption- particularly in not huge amounts at a time- in safe settings they are basically almost the same thing as legal (the risk is small), just harder to get- not as easy as going down to the corner-store.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14759331 - 07/12/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Not that I agree with many things that have become legal and are becoming legal- look at what has. You can legally pay hit-men low prices to KILL UNBORN BABIES in most parts of the world and have been able to for a while now, gays are no doubt going to be able to get married anywhere/be tolerated too most everywhere in the next decades.




Yes it's much better for a child to be born, neglected, thrown in foster care and live a shitty miserable life than for an irresponsible and unwanting parent to just have an abortion and spare that unborn child a lifetime of pain. 

And... yes, it is our business to tell other people minding their own business who they can and can not marry because for some reason we "just don't think it's right".

Welcome to the Shroomery, you seem like a pretty logical open minded guy. I'm sure you'll fit in alright...


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14775760 - 07/16/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes it's much better for a child to be born, neglected, thrown in foster care and live a shitty miserable life than for an irresponsible and unwanting parent to just have an abortion and spare that unborn child a lifetime of pain. 

And... yes, it is our business to tell other people minding their own business who they can and can not marry because for some reason we "just don't think it's right".






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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14780527 - 07/17/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I was just highlighting laws that have passed that many people (the far right especially) would absolutely agree are far more "damaging to society" - like gay marriage and abortion compared legalizing the act of getting high on magic mushrooms, which at the same time most people cannot imagine in the near future passing. It's very ironic when you look at it in that perspective. FYI- I didn't and rarely state my actual beliefs- like "It's this way guys I know it for fact!", I just look at issues from every possible viewpoint, finding  contradictions and parallels before making up my mind on what I think is "best." Even then my views are always evolving, as the world changes. Here's an example of how I do things- I believe in the bible to the fullest. Not affiliated with a religious organization though because corruption by man is innate. So, murder clearly advised against, and punishable makes abortion highly immoral. However, because there will always be a thriving underground market of people getting abortions, like there was in the past, and just like there is for drugs now, I believe we might as well legalize the practices to reduce trillions in wasteful spending in law enforcement etc. And anything in the bible related to gays is totally obliterated by God for eternity...so it's extremely obvious gay actions are as immoral as abortion, but since there are so many gays, and rising numbers even, there's nothing else we can do, but treat them equally. I mean what are we gunna do, pull a Holocaust on them? C'mon. Oh and when you said the gays are "minding their own business" they are not 100%. If you haven't realized yet, others around us influence our beliefs just by being alive and being (in this case, gay) in public eye.
In the bible it says not to get drunk clearly but it implies you can have a couple drinks. Well, I think we all know taking medium to high doses of mushrooms is passing that couple drinks intoxication line, considering the amount of "mind fuck." Yet, I don't drink or smoke pot, cigs, but rationalize that a moderate dose of shrooms is very spiritual, makes one a better person, and makes one just grateful to be alive- and for months or even years after one use. So, it is an acceptable tool to use rarely because of very potent rejuvenation, even though one is becoming sort of "drunk". But then, I do not think of this as simply getting high, I really do think of shrooms- when done this way- as a powerful medical device. Of course there are always going to be people who abuse drugs, but at least these are drugs that do far less harm than cigs and alcohol to the user and to others around the user (like seriously they are basically non-toxic comparably). I think in the future people will really focus on the obvious truths more than the hidden one's- ie. alcohol and cigs kill the body and mind, however psychedelics are non-toxic to the body and if used correctly can not only be not harmful to the mind, but beneficial, BUT (the sometimes hidden truth) some of the heavy abusers will become totally out of their mind in their conception of reality and will be "damaging to society." But then again, that happens with alcoholics all the time too... Man, just legalize it all already! So many lives destroyed, and so much money wasted on prohibition. It's really sad how confused and stupid the public and world leaders are :frown: /end rant/ heh.

legalize :mushroom2: at least!!! I'll throw a good one in for you guys :cool: Genesis 1:29 - “God said, behold, I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."

I think everyone here likes that verse... :smile:


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14795115 - 07/19/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry to keep bringing this thread back...

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I was just highlighting laws that have passed that many people (the far right especially) would absolutely agree are far more "damaging to society" - like gay marriage and abortion




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Oh and when you said the gays are "minding their own business" they are not 100%. If you haven't realized yet, others around us influence our beliefs just by being alive and being (in this case, gay) in public eye.




Well... by reading your post I can tell your into the bible. I personally believe religion has damaged society far more than abortion or gay marriage ever will. Does the make it right to outlaw the bible?

Probably not.

You being a bible freak isn't going to "influence my beliefs" because I have a mind of my own. Just as a gay person isn't going to influence my beliefs. It's as simple as live and let live in many cases, but for some reason most people can't seem to do that.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14795285 - 07/19/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

First you took the first sentence you stated out of context (a sentence that respected shrooms even). Then you called me a bible freak. I can see respect runs deeply in the modern liberal agenda. :wink: Everything that surrounds us influences our choices in everyday life. Good example- most people would never think of using marijuana even for a medical reason. And after it become legal, and much more socially accepted people you would never think of using it for any reason, are now using it to help them. If your family all smokes pot or drinks you probably will be smoking pot or drinking too. C'mon- common sense isn't that dead, even in modern liberals is it?? Never mind though, because I'm sure something will be taken out of context and responded blindly again.

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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14796415 - 07/20/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Even though i strongly think no plant based drug should be illegal,
i feel sorry for you guys in the states for being treated like little kids.
I hope you will get smartshops and laws like we have here, in holland.
don't see it happen though, ppl are so uptight
There's even pressure from US government on Dutch drug policy.
Why not bother with urself, us government.
Leave us dutch alone
Oh and the 100 year optioN? i would really like to live to see that day.. haha world chaos


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Cosmic fusio]
    #14798061 - 07/20/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

upcomingpsychonaut..... what a joke.

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Genesis 1:29 - “God said, behold, I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."




After you talk about how tobacco is bad, blah blah blah.
Most of the things you said contradict each other, and you seem to get most of your opinions from the bible. You are another robot, and a very close minded person. Goodluck with being anything close to a psychonaut.

(By the way a lot of my views are conservative, and you're just an embarrassment.)


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14798392 - 07/20/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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First you took the first sentence you stated out of context (a sentence that respected shrooms even). Then you called me a bible freak. I can see respect runs deeply in the modern liberal agenda. :wink: Everything that surrounds us influences our choices in everyday life. Good example- most people would never think of using marijuana even for a medical reason. And after it become legal, and much more socially accepted people you would never think of using it for any reason, are now using it to help them. If your family all smokes pot or drinks you probably will be smoking pot or drinking too. C'mon- common sense isn't that dead, even in modern liberals is it?? Never mind though, because I'm sure something will be taken out of context and responded blindly again.

God bless





Most people wouldn't consider using marijuana because they are misinformed about it and fear legal repercussions, so when proper information is spread and there are no legal repercussions to fear it's quite likely more people will be using it. Bravo.

However, this is off topic. Just so I'm not taking something out of context... you agree that you were specifically referring to gays influencing your beliefs correct? As in, if gay marriage is legal it will suddenly influence peoples beliefs and make them gay?

Let's use your same argument... if everyone in your family is straight, that obviously means you will be straight as well- because everyone knows only gay parents can have gay children. :facepalm: 


Also, I don't consider myself a liberal and really don't understand where you got that from.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14801119 - 07/21/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Another insult, this time thanks to distorted vision. At least he's living up to his name, in that his reality is pretty distorted.

-As in, if gay marriage is legal it will suddenly influence peoples beliefs and make them gay?

Let's use your same argument... if everyone in your family is straight, that obviously means you will be straight as well- because everyone knows only gay parents can have gay children.-

No, never suddenly. All change happens gradually, just like the spread and acceptance of cannabis, just like the spread and acceptance of racial equality. It took centuries... so no not suddenly, just like how  gay marriage is become legal state by state very slowly. One day when it has spread far and wide, far in the future, then yes, that is when it will affect everyone's personal beliefs either lightly or strongly depending on how they have been raised in the first place. Forget the argument, you guys cannot think at enough angles, realize historical events and how they apply to the future.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14802000 - 07/21/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Another insult, this time thanks to distorted vision. At least he's living up to his name, in that his reality is pretty distorted.

-As in, if gay marriage is legal it will suddenly influence peoples beliefs and make them gay?

Let's use your same argument... if everyone in your family is straight, that obviously means you will be straight as well- because everyone knows only gay parents can have gay children.-

No, never suddenly. All change happens gradually, just like the spread and acceptance of cannabis, just like the spread and acceptance of racial equality. It took centuries... so no not suddenly, just like how  gay marriage is become legal state by state very slowly. One day when it has spread far and wide, far in the future, then yes, that is when it will affect everyone's personal beliefs either lightly or strongly depending on how they have been raised in the first place. Forget the argument, you guys cannot think at enough angles, realize historical events and how they apply to the future.




It may affect personal beliefs in the sense that people don't hate gays... but it seems like common sense not to hate other people for their personal lifestyle choices. Legalizing gay marriage does not mean everyone is going to turn gay. It may allow the gay people to be more open but that is different... many gay people come from stict anti gay families so this is obviously not a product of their upbringing. That is the point you missed. I believe gayness is biological and really can't be compared to the acceptance of cannibas... this is apples and oranges man.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14802006 - 07/21/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Another insult, this time thanks to distorted vision. At least he's living up to his name, in that his reality is pretty distorted.

-As in, if gay marriage is legal it will suddenly influence peoples beliefs and make them gay?

Let's use your same argument... if everyone in your family is straight, that obviously means you will be straight as well- because everyone knows only gay parents can have gay children.-

No, never suddenly. All change happens gradually, just like the spread and acceptance of cannabis, just like the spread and acceptance of racial equality. It took centuries... so no not suddenly, just like how  gay marriage is become legal state by state very slowly. One day when it has spread far and wide, far in the future, then yes, that is when it will affect everyone's personal beliefs either lightly or strongly depending on how they have been raised in the first place. 




I agree that change happens slowly, but a lot of is because people are influenced too easily. Why is being gay not even accepted in the first place? Because of mindless robots see that someone thinks a certain way and changes themself , thanks for contributing so that indeed you're theory is correct for most of part.:thumbup:

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Forget the argument, you guys cannot think at enough angles, realize historical events and how they apply to the future.




I really enjoy debating subjects, and this sentense alone makes me know that you're not going to attribute any new ideas to me. Having debates is a very good way to learn, but with you nothing is to be learned. You're regurgitating the same basic beliefs that have always been spewed out the mouths of the ignorant. Again you get most of your morals from the bible, so please don't tell me that I can't think in enough angles.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14803855 - 07/21/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Lol good reading here


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Cosmic fusio]
    #14805926 - 07/21/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't the chick on my avatar frickin hot?! :eek:


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: upcomingpsychonaut]
    #14807335 - 07/22/11 07:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Isn't the chick on my avatar frickin hot?! :eek:



There's something we can agree on!:grin:


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14875482 - 08/05/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The only way "magic mushrooms" will be legal is if the US federal government collapses :laugh: That's the only way I see it happening.


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14882433 - 08/06/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

As soon a a civil revolution happens and the tyrannical oppressive government known as USA, which a just a part of a huge world corporation is overthrown, then mushrooms will be legal.

Until then, the last thing our puppet masters want the bottom feeders to be aware of is truth.:mushroom2:


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Re: Do you think Magic Mushrooms will ever be legal in the U.S.? [Re: Vitalux]
    #14882580 - 08/06/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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