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boO


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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: Cryptic]
#1346452 - 03/02/03 08:48 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2813433.stm
there's the article in BBC now...1.5 tons of VX missing and gee the iraqis are so cooperative, they've destroyed 10 out of the 120 missiles they have...not to mention they still have 157 missiles with antrhax that they were suppose to destroy when...1991? if the anthrax they have is considered "harmless" what are they doing with it in the first place?
north korea is just pissed off and they're flexing their muscles cause the US had declared them an axis of evil and they want to show they got heavy duty shit (US shouldn't turn away from them economically)..but u know what, they can't do anything iwth their nuclear arsenal..sure they have 2 balistic missiles that can reach the west coast of the US but the North Koreans sure as bloody hell know that if they launched one of those missiles 10,000 more will be headed their way...not to mention no one will help them out (that includes Russia and China).
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djfrog
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: boO]
#1346463 - 03/02/03 08:55 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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" but u know what, they (N.Korea) can't do anything iwth their nuclear arsenal "
Sure they can. Put a bomb in a backpack and give it to Al Qaeda suicide bomber.
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boO


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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: djfrog]
#1346491 - 03/02/03 09:05 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
North Koreans sure as bloody hell know that if they launched one of those missiles 10,000 more will be headed their way...
and that retaliation...
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djfrog
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: boO]
#1346935 - 03/02/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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There would be retaliation only if they were caught. They could get a bomb to the US continent without getting caught.
Anyhow, I do agree the only reason N Korea is a risk is because Bush decided to declare them evil. The North Korean leadership has said so themselves, that they are doing it to defend themselves after hearing Bush declare they were evil. Now Bush won't even talk to the North Koreans, I have a feeling if he were to go and talk and actually apologize and take the statement back that the North Korea issue would be over.
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: djfrog]
#1347264 - 03/02/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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yup it is all pretty fucked.
my bro was in the marines for 4 years, now in the army in his like 2nd year... he switched because of some advantage the army had with special forces or something like that... i think he was / is a green beret?
i totally admire my brother and all the other soldiers, they work there asses off and are now going to look death in the face. but I think their minds like all of our culture are just lost. ive heard my bro try and talk philosiphically about this whole deal.. he gets all his info from CNN and I told him that it is just media paid for by the government to influence people's decisions and he just looked at me dumbfounded and was like "Well then where the hell do you get your info?"
it's just kinda sad i tool around on the internet for a few months and I feel like i know more about what's going on than someone whose actually been living this shit for like 6 years... and all cuz i just put myself out of the way of uncle sam's big booming voice a voice that totally contradicts any notion of freedom, and is soley based on sucking the masses dry so those greedy fucks can live in a million dollar house.
so feed the agenda boys
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jp411896
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: Grav]
#1347363 - 03/02/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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My brother's in the military as well. Army. He called to let me know he was shipping out and spent a bunch of time "trying to convince me" that this war is stupid and wrong and it's for all the wrong reasons. He was surprised to learn that I felt the same way. Fucking bastards recruited him and then didn't give him the training they promised. He's wanted out since a month after he started. Soldiers never get anything in writing so he's screwed. I hear the same thing happens to a lot of people. They promise you training in electronics repair and then won't even let you replace the batteries in your flashlight. This all stinks 100% Everybody that wants this war should grab a gun and then we'd see if this war happened or not.
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RiSK
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: Grav]
#1347930 - 03/03/03 01:47 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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If Baghdad or Iraq said that they didnt have any weapons of mass destruction I bet that have of the men that are going to fight over there would not go!!!!!! The only reason all these young guys are willing to go fight is because they know that they do not have weapons of mass destruction!!!!!!!!! Give Iraq a few bombs and some long range missles and some tanks and then i would like to see how many men are willing to go fight!!!!!!!!!!!
-------------------- All is well in Rosswell!!!!!!!!!!
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RiSK
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: RiSK]
#1347934 - 03/03/03 01:49 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Men Are Only Brave when they know they are going to win!!!!!!!!!!
-------------------- All is well in Rosswell!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: RiSK]
#1347965 - 03/03/03 02:13 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Weapons of mass destruction or not, some of these guys are being tossed onto foreign city streets where they are target for any number of small arms enemy fire. one bullet will end your life just as fast as a missile will. There are some who putting their lives in serious risk. call it bravery or stupidity, but im sure they are well aware that they could be killed any second if they let their guard down.
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jp411896
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: RiSK]
#1348102 - 03/03/03 04:01 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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How is this a matter of bravery? Most people are brave enough to fight when the cause is right. The question is the cause.
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: jp411896]
#1348246 - 03/03/03 04:52 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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indeed
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Scarfmeister
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: Grav]
#1348315 - 03/03/03 05:31 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Peace sucks WAR RULEZ!
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: RiSK]
#1348769 - 03/03/03 07:57 PM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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" RISK " Must be hitting the pipe hard lately, right bro ? I spent 8 years in the Marines and I'll say one thing I never felt the way you descriebed? Have you ever been in war, or are you just one of those hippie protesters with all the answer but no real way of solving the problems? Those guys on the front line are putting their asses on the line so you can sit back and trip out . So think about some of this before you post some shit like that..... The Head Honcho in Charge
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: TripsterD]
#1349218 - 03/04/03 07:30 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just cant stand this Liberal non-sense its crazy...They preach it on T.V. at my University, On The shroomery????, get smart people. 12 years....WE need action sorry bumble fumble bill isnt in office, and we cant just take a pacifist appeasment course. Thats why hitler got out of hand. We will deal with North Korea when the time comes...Iraq is the problem at hand, like Afghanistan was, and North Korea will be. What do you need?, Smoking gun...Funny how all that crap fell out of the media as soon as we found the smoking gun (missiles). Inspections are not working...Do you have a better solution, I havnt heard any. Who's gonna die for saddam certainly not too many of his people, they know hes nuts. Do you know how much oil we get from Iraq 7%. Its so shortsighted to say this is for Oil, we will use their oil to rebuild their country, but hell thats better than paying for the destruction & the reconstruction like we do with all the other countrys we obliderate. You want to see Oil interest look at Germany & France we goto war, they lose huge (billion dollar) contracts, we dont need Iraqi oil. Turn the sand to glass for all I care...
-------------------- We might get glimpse's of objectivity every now, and then, but we're so inherently locked in our temporal and corporeal selves that we're irrevocably locked into subjectivity
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: boO]
#1349649 - 03/04/03 09:55 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact of the matter is we have more weapons of mass destruction then any other country on the earth currently.
By us invading other countries we say to the world, "Don't worry about our motives, we are the good guys, trust us..."
We invade countries all the time. Quite frankly we get in to more wars then any other country on earth. It's just most of it never makes the local news... Just like bush's administration dragging all the pipe vendor's out of there homes and in to cages never made the news in my area.
We would never have stepped into the middle east if two things where not there, oil and jews. Period. Saddam is not our problem, no more then bush is the people of hungry's problem.
I can't believe you guys, the people that are telling us this is such a great thing to do, are the same people that make the "marijuana harmless?" commercials. They lie all the time.
~ I don't give a fuck if people choose to deluded themselfs into thinking that they are truthful all the time; what pissed me off is when people act like I'm a moron for using my brain.
And honestly bush has much more opportunity to turn in to something like Hitler then saddam ever will...
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boO


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you're totally right. bush sr. had no reason to involve america in the situation within kuwait and iraq. he was only interested in oil/money/jews. same with bush jr now...money/oil/jews. but call it what you want, the fact that they have these weapons and they were suppose to have gotten rid of it in the early 90s is quite disturbing. they've lied about destroying these..who knows what hands these weapons can go to (i.e. al quaeda) and kill loads of westerners (oh god forbid ) cause let's face it..they hate us! Sure the US has loads of weapons of mass destruction but you must admit, at least the US won't actually use it till something catastrophic happens.
i think that the idea that the UEA and other arab states of just getting rid of saddam hussein would be the best solution...but of course, the US and UK want to force this into a war. no one wants war...it's a pain in everyone's ass...but also take a look at those countries who are against it, they're two faced too. In example france...22% of export going to iraq is from them...deep down inside shiraq (sp?) is just worried about the bling bling.
when you think of it deeply, it's the brits and french that fuck everything up and America feels that it should involve itself in the situations to "fix" it... who instated the israeli borders (UN/UK), who instated the kuwaiti/iraqi border (UK), who fucked up their colony and didn't want to fix it which lead to several deaths in the 60s/70s (France re. vietnam)
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Re: Off to Bagdhad... [Re: RiSK]
#1349937 - 03/04/03 11:30 AM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Men Are Only Brave when they know they are going to win!!!!!!!!!!
That's not true. Thousands of men have died for this country to give me freedom not knowing if they would prevail. Remember the sailors at Pearl Harbor fighting the Japanese off. Men shooting at those planes with their rifles as those dive bombers shot them with machine guns. In combat men give thier lives for thier friends every day, jumping on a han grenade or running in to fire to try to bring their buddy that's hit back to a medic. Remember those couragous souls on the hijacked plane that crashed in pennsylvania, they gave their lives to fight the terrorist hijackers and they saved countles lives on the ground, thousands more could have been killed if they didn't act. We have our heros, and they do not always live, or win. Edit to add: My grandfather was in combat in the pacfic during WW2. He saw hundreds of men die, some of his buddies die. He didn't know he would live. You can't know when so many around you are being killed. He fought and killed the enemy. He did his duty and helped save our freedom. I believe he's a brave man and a hero.
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Edited by Ellis Dee (03/04/03 11:37 AM)
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Grav


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our government lies through their teeth.
in the words of serj tankian: "the bottom line is money, nobody gives a fuck."
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Re: Off to Baghdad... [Re: Grav]
#1350691 - 03/04/03 05:30 PM (20 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wars have always been justified since the beginning of time. There is nothing I hate more than " I did what my country told me to do" that is the most ignorant comment i can fathom. Its sad the majority of this world gets their morality from their gov't. One day humanity will realize we are only shooting ourselves when we go to war... until then, i hope we don't kill eachother off.
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