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Mountrakker
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Hey thanks for the tip, though i have to say that its my Pf-tek Jars that haven't colonized in 20 days, not my Lc that is why i shot them around 3-4 cc honey lc again to test..
it is highly probable that you are right and it is contamed, will know soon for sure though, time will tell as Bob Marley sais

hey the bird seed is really cool, popcorn is ok, rye berries is the last i haven't tried and i guess the best of them all
will keep this process posted once i get any results
tx!
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santaclausmush
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Re: Early enzyme development in LC [Re: Mountrakker] 1
#12246958 - 03/22/10 04:29 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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if u did the pf tek to spec and boiled or pc. it doesnt matter the lc wont make nothing sometimes if its bad on brf cakes... IF THE LC IS CONTAMED sometimes it wont show nothing u could have done the pf tek fine. just the LC is shit. where do u live? if ur looking to do organic rye berries watch out it could cost u some coin... i was doing organic rye berries for a while.. it was 20$for the bag and 30$ shipping so it was fifty a bag...
i found a coop in concord nh.. from a friend alientechkilla and now i use organic wheat berries at 1.29 a lb... and they work just as good.saved me alot of coin too.
i see u live in uk.. so look around for organic stores or some small store somewhere will sell the berries.. take care good luck and best wishes.
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Mountrakker
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i think ill end up with a bag of Agar-agar powder and a series of petri-dishes just to be sure!the latest bummer is that the honey lc jars i made, created sediment 2 days after it was pc'ed..strange
i bought me organic rye berries for 1.50 euro (about 2 bucks) per 500gr of product(total rip-off) they look nice, but will not be touching them until i have solid happy white mycelium, ready colonize em like there's no tomorrow..
i live in southern europe in the country that invented the 12 gods of Olympus(not the camera-lol) and has now a huge deficit to balance out
you say organic wheat berries worked for you as well?? now thats interesting, wheat berries are much cheaper than rye.. share your experience! do you think they're better than rye?
thanks
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santaclausmush
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Re: Early enzyme development in LC [Re: Mountrakker] 1
#12248577 - 03/22/10 12:21 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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(wheat berries)i tried one batch so far. i was contaminated by my LC. but my buddy says there just like rye berries...so im going up to the coop today to get more and try again tonight. i have tons of rye berries all 100% colonized i can sho u a pic.. and rye and wheat berries doing GRAIN TO GRAIN colonizes pretty dam fast in the jars... also yes i made A NEW LC three days ago and its already filling up with myc. i stir em like ten times a day so thell colonize faster
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Afoafs Friend
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Is a ventilation hole absolutely required? Has anyone tried this Tek without one? It seems that the absence of a ventilation hole would decrease the chance of contamination and ease in shaking the jar. I apologize if this is a stupid question.
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santaclausmush
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no ventilation hole needed. u can do lc in baby bottles with no ventilation hole.
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Estario
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Without a ventilation hole, when you suck up LC the vacuum you create inside the vessel will draw in unfiltered air in the absence of a filter.
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Estario] 1
#12376454 - 04/12/10 05:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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how are u gonna draw it outta the jar buy putting a hole with scotts tape over it? or are u using a baby bottle? if so take a extra needle pull plunder out and put polyfill in plunger then into jar itll allow air in the jar so u dont create a vacuum./
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Cloneufc
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This is a complicated way to make an LC. All you need is about two teaspoons of honey per pint and a filter. Add honey, water and PC, its that simple. There's also no need to shake an LC. I use micropore tape and swirl my LC's to break up the mycelium, all while keeping my filter dry. Sediment in an LC does not matter. The mycelium eventually breaks down the sediment anyways. Clear LC's can be contaminated, you can't tell by looking at it. You really dont know if an LC is good or not until you use it. Thats why some people on here dont recommend them.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Cloneufc] 1
#13496748 - 11/17/10 06:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by sicis (02/19/13 11:36 AM)
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Doc_T
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: sicis] 1
#13496774 - 11/17/10 07:10 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi, you need to learn PF Tek. You can start your PF jars with LC or spores. But you have to grow cakes, it doesn't go LC->shrooms.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Doc_T] 1
#13496787 - 11/17/10 07:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The problem is that i dont have Vermiculite. I got Brown rice and honey. I would make LC and infect it in BRF jars, wait for myc than break it up and case them in plastic box then put them in incubator. I also have no access to Vermiculite. I planned to go to capital city to buy it, but the seller has run out of vermiculite and dont know when it will be in stock, so i dont want to wait cuz i want to trip out in winter. First experience
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Doc_T
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: sicis] 1
#13496789 - 11/17/10 07:15 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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That won't work. Go get verm, do it right.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Doc_T] 1
#13496800 - 11/17/10 07:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why verm wtf why always its vermiculite i mean in nature it grows like on wood etc, theres no vermiculite in nature. Is there any other alternative beside coir cow horse manures? Cuz i have no access to them also i can get perlite though, but i read not to use it.
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Doc_T
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: sicis] 1
#13496820 - 11/17/10 07:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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What part of the world do you live in that there's no verm? Forget about Wal-Mart dude, they don't have what you need.
look, you can grow mushrooms if you follow the tek. If you don't follow the tek, then you may or may not grow mushrooms. Mostly 'not'.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Doc_T] 1
#13496828 - 11/17/10 07:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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im from Latvia, and to find Verm i must go to capital city Riga and theres a chance that i wont find it and it would be big waste. The source from where i planned to get verm has run out of it.
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Doc_T
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: sicis] 1
#13496838 - 11/17/10 07:32 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, Latvia? You should have said so. I think you'd be better off with one of the horse manure/straw methods. But verm is very light, it would not be too bad to mail it.
Do you have a pressure cooker? It's not required, but opens up options.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Doc_T] 1
#13496851 - 11/17/10 07:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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No i dont have pressure cooker but im ok to steam it for 2h The mailing would be more pricey than hitchiking to Riga and getting back by bus. As i was planning to do cuz i also need biogrow for my weed
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Doc_T
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: sicis] 1
#13496858 - 11/17/10 07:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Find a pressure cooker somewhere. It will make everything else much simpler. But you can probably grow without one if you can get vermiculite. There's really no substitute, it's a unique product.
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sicis
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Re: Honey LC Tek - pictorial [Re: Doc_T] 1
#13496879 - 11/17/10 07:44 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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How long spores are viable in syringe? Cuz i want to do it right, and the straw tek seems bit complicated, i understood the process of PF thought.
Edited by sicis (11/17/10 07:45 AM)
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