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FishOilTheKid
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Show me your thoughts on my belief and I will be grateful.
I agree with you.
However, I believe that there is a more personal mystery able to be experienced that is, from what I've experienced, the complex interaction of human imagination, memory, and thought process(es) beyond mundane reality as experienced by most. I feel this interactive force or realm more appropriately can be called God whereas I would use the term g*d to refer to (the term) God meaning everything combined.
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Habal Shiva
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But what do you believe, in that sense? Who was he? can anybody truly explain who he was and what happened to him? Most of the time I believe that jesus was made up entirely...
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soldatheero
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But what do you believe, in that sense? Who was he? can anybody truly explain who he was and what happened to him? Most of the time I believe that jesus was made up entirely
He was who he said he was, God as man. Not an alein.
The pyramids were all build around the same time because there was most likely a great world civilization in the past. Ancient man needed no help from aliens. The ancients had incredible knowledge likely beyond our current knowledge. Todays UFO's are mans UFO's
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Most of the time I believe that jesus was made up entirely...
An imaginary man could not move the world the way Jesus did.
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It is ironic all this talk of whether or not God exists, God doesn't just exist God is all that exists.
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Philosophers, atheists and others may affirm or refute the existence of God, but as long as they do not deny the existence of their own being they continue to testify to their belief in God-for I tell you, with divine authority, that God is Existence, eternal and infinite. He is EVERYTHING.
Meher
The infinite and eternal oversoul has all things contained with in it including you and I. The soul is like the projector and the entire physical reality is the projection. It is quite the shame, the soul has lost itself in its own projection, taking the illusion to be the reality, completely forgetting about itself.
But not for long... this age is ending
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In talking of GOD; You are talking of the push that rolls the entire universe into being. There MUST be something at the spark.
Aliens and all other discussions are moot in that capacity. Even if they may explain advances, occurances and guidance, they do not explain the very beginning of all life and matter in the universe.
There MUST be a creation... but How? What? Not likely who. It almost seems impossible that SOMETHING come from NOTHING, but here we are.
Good luck.
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So, then what are your thoughts on the Christian beliefs? I do believe that God Is all that exists but Christians seem to perceive him as an entity as in an actual PERSON. Thats what they percieved Jesus to be. But maybe when Jesus said he was god, he was right. Since if all that exists, Conscious or unconscious, is god, then he must also be god, right?
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Christians are right to believe Jesus to be God but they are ignorant of rebirth and arragant in the fact they think Jesus is the only messiah. My beliefs are that Meher Baba is true and the things he says are true.. as In there is an "Avatar" that is reborn again and again as God coming down to be Man. Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Rama, Zoraster, Muhammud were all God-men. The Avatar is unique because he was the first being to become one with the Over-soul.
Everyone is God but not everyone has the experience of being God only the god-realized. Who are beyond rare, virtually everyone who makes the claim is an imposter.
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I like Meher Baba but I don't dig the avatar idea.
Every experience is the experience of God. No matter what you're imagining, you're god-realized. God is not hidden from us, there is no test, no path to walk. It is 100%, entirely, completely and thoroughly, up to you. If you think you're on a path, you are. If you think you have to struggle for some experience, you do. If you think the universe is full of mystery that unfolds right before your eyes, it will, if you think it is random, it is, if you think the mind is hard to control, it is. If you think I'm full of shit, I am.
UP.
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YOU.
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I like Meher Baba but I don't dig the avatar idea.
But are you saying what it's false or you just don't care for it? Whether or not it appeals to you does not make it false.
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Every experience is the experience of God
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No matter what you're imagining, you're god-realized
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If you think you're on a path, you are
So the madman that preaches on the streets, who is totally dillusional or a mad arsenist who burns things for God.. if they think they are.. are they on the spiritual path?
I think you are getting abit carried away you seem to be writing off the objective world.
I agree with you to an extent but I also believe that things happen according to certain laws.. and its not an anything goes situation.
You are either full of shit or you are not and what I think has nothing to do with it.
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We are all too powerful to bother with avatars coming down for us. We can handle ourselves. It wouldn't make any sense. You and I can be more powerful than Baba ever was.
Enlightenment is merely a choice to snap out of it. It's not a struggle, a gift or anything special whatsoever. In fact you're not even deluded, it's merely imagination.
There is no spiritual path that wasn't supposed to be walked from the beginning.
There is no objective world.
There is something in place, evidenced by our spirit body. But as long as we are here, in this place, it's up to us.
What I'm saying, whether it rings true or not, is totally in your hands.
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Re: Who is god? [Re: Dickhead]
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Awebig said: In talking of GOD; You are talking of the push that rolls the entire universe into being. There MUST be something at the spark.
Aliens and all other discussions are moot in that capacity. Even if they may explain advances, occurances and guidance, they do not explain the very beginning of all life and matter in the universe.
There MUST be a creation... but How? What? Not likely who. It almost seems impossible that SOMETHING come from NOTHING, but here we are.
Good luck.
The difference between something and nothing is negligible. In "nothing" is everything but because you cannot differentiate anything in it, you think it is nothing.
I agree though, it is an incredible gap, non-creation to creation. However don't confuse YOU popping out of nothingness into suddenly being human with the universe doing the same.
The reason YOU popped out of nothingness is because that is the definition of you. You are defined to be this form that exists between the time of conception and the time of death. By definition, you do not exist outside of these boundaries. However the universe, God, your true identity, whatever you will, is boundaryless! Asking why it popped out of nothingness is trying to put a limit on something inherently limitless.
I have a clear logical reason as to why; Time itself is merely dictated by differences between things. Without opposites, there is no "time". The universe did not pop into existence suddenly like us, it was ALWAYS there. What was not there "before", is time itself! Eternity is difficult to fathom.
I do believe that god is completely oblivious but completely perfect. After all, it took him some 14 billion years to create us but I say he did a damn good job. The big bang is like some guy scoring a hole in one while simultaneously doing a home run, while on a large dose of ketamine. With no legs. 114 billion times in a row.
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Re: Who is god? [Re: crkhd]
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Matthew 7:7 7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/tripart.htm
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13490822#13490822
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