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sirreal
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: _MarsBars_]
#1356186 - 03/07/03 03:41 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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What gave you the idea to eat so many shrooms???
This is a hard question to answer.
Most people who read this thread will probably assume that I am just a thrill seeker who wanted to get as high as possible off of the mushrooms. that I just wanted to get as fucked up as possible.
I have known about hallucinagenic drugs my entire life. I was never interested in trying them in my thirty years on this planet. Then one day around six months ago i stumbled upon this quote:
1961 Wasson Botanical Museum Leaflets, 19: 137.
"At last you know what the ineffable is and what ecstasy means. Ecstasy! The mind harks back to the origin of that word. For the Greeks ekstasis meant the flight of the soul from the body. Can you find a better word than that to describe the bemushroomed state? In common parlance, among the many who have not experienced ecstasy, ecstasy is fun, and I am frequently asked why I do not reach for mushrooms every night. But ecstasy is not fun. Your very soul is seized and shaken until it tingles. After all, who will choose to feel undiluted awe, or to float through that door yonder into the Divine presence?"
After reading this I became fascinated by the mushroom! I have always SERIOUSLY questioned mankinds existence. I have never been completely satisfied with commonly accepted explanations.
After reading quite a bit of information about the mushroom experience I decided that it might be a valuable tool that I could use. It seemed to be one of the very few "drugs" that offered understanding.
I ordered the spores and learned all about cultivation from a book and info. here on the shroomery.
I started small (20 wet grams) and slowly worked my way up to More(65 wet grams) . I learned how the mushroom experience worked. I learned how you could control the experience in degrees. I went through each level of the experience falling more and more in lust with what was happening. Each time I upped the dose things seemed to become a little clearer. So I decided to go for complete ego annihilation! I am glad I did.
Some of my views have changed so radically that I feel I am no longer the same person. I no longer have any questions about God or our purpose here on this earth. I see now.
Don't get me wrong. I did not get answers. The questions were cancelled out by truth. Negated by understanding. That is why it is a personal thing. there are no answers. Just truth. Truth does not answer our questions. It mocks them.
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
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sirreal
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1356216 - 03/07/03 03:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I ate 5 dry grams and pulled about a level 3 or 4, and I swear my brain worked better for three weeks.
Have you considered more than 108 after the experience?
Honestly I did not really notice a difference in the way I felt in the days following the trip.
And yes, as crazy as it may sound, I am considering doing a LITTLE more next time. I am in awe of the places the mushrooms allow my mind to go!
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1356220 - 03/07/03 03:54 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool what an experience, i've been contemplating a simular one but have only gone up to 10 dry grams of cubensis so far.I think ill wait for summer first  Cheers for sharing that.
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1356847 - 03/07/03 07:16 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems like a great trip!! It's been a while since I read a whole post and replies. What made me do this? Is the informations you provide about the trip and the connection I make with my own trips to help me "understand" them better. But as you say, truth is giving you answers in a diffrent way. I also wanted to tell you about this pleasure you felt. My first trip was very very powerfull(lots of mushrooms envolveld ). I was floating around the universe but I was seeing this pleasure as the true love of God and universe. The love that religion(not only Christianism I guess) is talking about. Keep us updated!
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Re: Are There Limits? [Re: OKKuato]
#1358630 - 03/08/03 02:46 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Limit or Limitless, that is the question. But what does limit have anything to do with an experienced user, in an ideal sense. The user is looking on the graph for the highest plateau, and once that plateau is reached, more effects that are harder will not occur. Just increasing the dose will increase the length of time the certain buzz may last. This is where people feel they need to increase this plateau by doin more harder drugs with whatever = mixing. (hahahahaha - wtf did i just write)(come on someone gimme shroom points)
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1358695 - 03/08/03 03:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't get me wrong. I did not get answers. The questions were cancelled out by truth. Negated by understanding. That is why it is a personal thing. there are no answers. Just truth. Truth does not answer our questions. It mocks them.
Man, that's just awesome. I hope some day I have an enlightening experience such as yours.
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1360145 - 03/09/03 09:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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On Valentine's Day I ate a dose that's probably pretty close to what you ate. I ate 30 good-sized freshly picked from a field Cubensi. The first 4 hours of that trip are pretty difficult to put into words. I too had that feeling of ecstacy that was too much to handle. It was like a feeling of all-knowingness, feeling everything all at once. All the pain all the pleasure in the universe felt as though it was being channeled through me somehow. And the visuals were unexplainable. It was like seeing the entire universe inside of me.
I was with a couple friends that ate way less than I, so they were still stuck in a slightly altered normal existance. While I was in an entirely new one. They wanted to talk to me during the trip. I told them I'm not interested in conversation right now. I wanted to speak in new tounges, not the normal every-day english. I wanted to make sounds and say words that had their own new meanings, not words that simply describe things we all know already. It's very difficult the state-of-mind I was in. But I guess that's just something psychedelics do--show you things that are inexpressible. Tripping that hard is something you simply must experience for yourself in order to relate. Total weirdness, I'll probably eat another dose that large someday, but not anytime soon.
I don't recommend most people eat doses that large, you have to be able to just go with whatever happens. If you try to fight it, you are screwed.
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1360540 - 03/09/03 01:22 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I had a similar experience to that of Hate Camel. After my most recent shrooming experience (probably a level 3 or 4 as well) I felt that I thought quite a bit differenty for a week or two. It eventually faded away, but I haven't experimented with shrooms since. This was my third time tripping and I don't remember any differences with my thought process after the first two, though the dosage was very similar.
-------------------- "Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?" - Bill Hicks
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1362837 - 03/10/03 10:09 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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that is intense in every sense of the word. I dont think its possible to decipher all that information. Not everything has a meaning to it! But trying to figure out what every single thing meant is to make it just more confusing..take it for what it was, and that is an incredible exp and emotional and physical journey u went on, dont try to understand what it meant if u cant. At that high a dosage , i dont think its possible. I think as ppl we cant handle that kinda threshold..thats why it tends to turn on u >>first half is awrite, then the second half it becomes unbeareable and difficult. It tells us we r weak as humans and that we may exuberate confidence and ego in the normal state but when it comes down to it..we all r the same, and that we all shall bow to the shrooms magic! i dunno how one can enjoy that kinda dosage..to push it to those kinda limits, to lose complete control, to be at its complete mercy. I applaud u for going through that. i definitely dont think pushing the limits is for every1.U can push it once, u can push it twice but once too many times and it will punish u where it hurts most...in ur mind, u'll never think str8 again, u could be completely lost in a schizo state. ...dont take this the wrong way but u sounded like a overcooked fried egg. how can u possibly learn anything in that state of mind... I think the only ppl who can possibly handle these large amounts r ppl who have not been influence by society. As a society, we r influence by tv, newspaper, magazines, computer, money, greed, love, anger, etc, etc .....all the kinda things that ruin us as wholesome ppl. Dont get me wrong , i luv those things as much as u do but we dont have the pure mentality to handle those extreme limits...and to fully enjoy what comes from it! If u can truly meditate and tune urself out from the real world, and not think in terms of "I...", u may enjoy unlimited dosages with limited or no setbacks. But we're real humans and not comic book superheros! Also 108 grams fresh..any1 who has ever eaten any amount fresh, is verrry very potent stuff. This is when psilo is at its peak and hasnt had a chance to degrade from drying. This isnt saying, well 108 fresh is about 10.8 or 12g dried! Prolly will feel more like 20+g dried. wowww, i wonder if u have been affected by this in the aftermath...in the sense has it changed ur personality, how u think, how u do things, how u see ppl, how u behave...etc...? U shoulda videtaped everything ...that way u could look back as oppose to tryin to think back. That would be some interesting tv watching my friend sBUD
Edited by sBUD (03/10/03 10:20 AM)
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1362993 - 03/10/03 11:22 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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sirreal
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sBUD]
#1363047 - 03/10/03 11:39 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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that is intense in every sense of the word.
Very!!!!!
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I dont think its possible to decipher all that information. Not everything has a meaning to it!
Most of the specifics of the trip did not have any real meaning, I agree. What did have meaning was the overall experience! Everything that I held true was rendered meaningless! EVERYTHING that I have been trying so hard to believe in was exposed for what it is.
I heard the resounding echo of every question I have ever asked come back to my own ears. There are no answers! I felt mocked severely and yet I understood. It was like I knew all along.
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dont try to understand what it meant if u cant.
I do not agree. You do not have to TRY and understand. You either do or you don't.
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may exuberate confidence and ego in the normal state but when it comes down to it..we all r the same, and that we all shall bow to the shrooms magic!
Well said!!!!
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i dunno how one can enjoy that kinda dosage..to push it to those kinda limits, to lose complete control, to be at its complete mercy.
Feeling helpless is part of the experience. A vital part.
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That would be some interesting tv watching my friend
A low budget movie about a schizo! who solves the mystery of life.
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: zeta]
#1363071 - 03/10/03 11:50 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Faulty memory or they were very, very weak!
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: _MarsBars_]
#1372513 - 03/13/03 09:55 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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mmm i remember being there... was kinda fun actually. 4g's of caps only - and i wiegh only 130lbs
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1375707 - 03/14/03 09:26 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's a bad ass trip man....I can't believe you put that into words..thats the most difficult part...AMAAAAAZING!!!!!!
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sirreal
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Well, I have decided that I will do it again monday.
A "friend" just harvested 320 wet grams of creeper and I am going to eat about 15 dried grams on monday. That is about a third more than my last trip.
Some of you will probably think that is stupid. I understand.
I have it all worked out with a close friend. She will come to my house and check on me. She will not stay, just check in on me. She will also keep my dog for awhile. 
It seemed that alot of you enjoyed reading this thread ,so I will start a new one after the trip detailing everything. I'm looking forward to it.
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1378743 - 03/15/03 03:56 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow, good luck with that. I have a suggestion for you, TALK to the mushroom during the peak. I mean that in the literal sense, actual speak to it and see what it has to say trip safe!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1379889 - 03/16/03 04:13 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Huh... I wouldn't call 15 dried grams a stupid dose.
I wouldn't really consider it to be "pushing it"either.... mushrooms don't "get you fucked up" anyway from my experience. Taking large doses isn't abusing them.
15 grams... That's when things start to get REALLY interesting
There's such a well of visual content that doesn't really open up at your 3.5, 5, 7 gram doses....
It's continually surprised me that so many people here put their cutoff around 5 or 7, especially since there're so many growers...
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1380040 - 03/16/03 05:34 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's an iteresting trip, but really it's only like 11 cracker dried grams, still a lot but nothing like it was 108 dry, and you never lost ego, lost realization of who you are. That's what terrified me for a while was that I didn't know who I was and I thought I was different people and thought it would never end.
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: sirreal]
#1380185 - 03/16/03 06:33 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good luck on Monday sirreal! A true warrior you are. I look forward to the Trip report. I suggest using a toy lightsaber to ward off any potential threatening entities!!!
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Re: Trip report.108 grams! [Re: _MarsBars_]
#1389495 - 03/18/03 08:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow... you're my kinda guy!
Most i've eaten at once was 55grams wet, but i have no tolerance what so ever. i've had level 5 trips off of 1.5 dried grams. many times over actually.
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