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Offlinecdubbz111
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I gots a head scratcher!!
    #13485322 - 11/14/10 10:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

limx->0+ xsinx  read: the limit as x aproaches zero from the positive side of x to the sin of x (x^(sinx))

its an 0^0 indeterminate form, but im not sure how to go about converting it into a 0/0 or infinity/infinity form so i can use L'Hospital's formula... damnit i need an answer or atleast a point in the right direction for this F'n problem....


if you can succesfully help me, ive got freebies... and 2 more problems that deal with related rates....


Dueces....


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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: cdubbz111]
    #13485336 - 11/14/10 10:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

simply divide the f(x) by the prime number of the sum of the first two intergers, from there take the square root, times it by itself, and round the the nearest 10nth

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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13485373 - 11/14/10 10:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

troll
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realfuzzhead said:
simply divide the f(x) by the prime number of the sum of the first two intergers, from there take the square root, times it by itself, and round the the nearest 10nth



  nice troll...


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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: cdubbz111]
    #13485378 - 11/14/10 10:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

well i had no idea wtf your talking about so i decided i might as well occupy you for a full 5 seconds

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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: cdubbz111]
    #13485454 - 11/14/10 10:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

cdubbz111 said:
limx->0+ xsinx  read: the limit as x aproaches zero from the positive side of x to the sin of x (x^(sinx))

its an 0^0 indeterminate form, but im not sure how to go about converting it into a 0/0 or infinity/infinity form so i can use L'Hospital's formula... damnit i need an answer or atleast a point in the right direction for this F'n problem....


if you can succesfully help me, ive got freebies... and 2 more problems that deal with related rates....


Dueces....




Edit: didn't read accurately haha

Edit2: or maybe yes, I should not be erase thing like this.

It's 1 year since I've done thse maths so, it could be not true.

y = x^sin(x)
ln(y) = ln(x^sin(x))
ln(y) = sin(x) ln(x)
d/dx [ ln(y) ] = d/dx [ sin(x) ln(x) ]
1/y dy/dx = sin(x)/x + ln(x)cos(x)
dy/dx = x^sin(x) [ sin(x)/x + ln(x)cos(x) ]
dy/dx = x^(sin(x)-1) [ sin(x) + x ln(x) cos(x) ]

Answer: x^(sin(x)-1) [ sin(x) + x ln(x) cos(x) ]

PS if you didn't understand the above implicit differentiation, then rewrite
x^sin(x) as e^[sin(x) ln(x)]
d/dx e^[sin(x) ln(x)]
let u = sin(x) ln(x) and use the chain rule: d/dx = d/du du/dx
d/dx e^[sin(x) ln(x)] = d/du e^u d/dx [sin(x) ln(x)]
= e^u [sin(x)/x + ln(x) cos(x) ]
= e^[sin(x) ln(x)] [ sin(x)/x + ln(x) cos(x) ]
= x^sin(x) [ sin(x)/x + ln(x) cos(x) ]
= x^(sin(x)-1) [ sin(x) + x ln(x) cos(x) ] 

same answer, different approach.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081010133515AAK1QJJ

** too tired to do it myself

after, replace all of your x by 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000001 so +0

0^(sin(0)-1)*(sin(0)+0*ln(0)*cos(0))= 0^(0-1)*(0+0) = 0


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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: Simplepowa]
    #13485480 - 11/14/10 10:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

YERFFF, Your math talk burns my skull!!


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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: mattritt]
    #13485515 - 11/14/10 10:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i admire that people on here can do this crap.

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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #13485747 - 11/15/10 12:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm failing calculus at the moment. I have no clue what's going on in that class...

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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: MuddinPede]
    #13487498 - 11/15/10 12:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hehe i figgured it out this mornin at work, nat log both sides... take deriv, sub back orig. eq...

simple powa, i will have prints of TC in about a week give or take a bit..
would you like some or is there something i could do to aid you?


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Re: I gots a head scratcher!! [Re: cdubbz111]
    #13489232 - 11/15/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ah no thanks, no need to thanks me in any way.

It is just normal to help a fellow shroomerite!

:smirk:

I'm not even sure if I got it all good as this has been a long time since I've done these maths haha.


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Robert Pirsig - "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."

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Brian Cox - "[One] problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense."

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