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 Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops 
#1345439 - 03/01/03 04:51 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/01/turkeyvote030301
Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops
Last Updated Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:23:33
ANKARA, TURKEY - Turkey's parliamentary speaker nullified a vote Saturday that would have allowed U.S. troops into the country to launch a possible attack against Iraq.
The country's parliament agreed to let 62,000 American troops, 255 warplanes and 65 helicopters set up a northern front within Turkey.
Turkish protester takes part in an anti-war demonstration (AP PHOTO)
But the opposition Republican People's Party immediately challenged the results of the 264-250 vote, saying the margin wasn't big enough.
Under Turkey's constitution, a majority of those present must vote in favour for a bill to pass. With 19 abstentions, the vote was four short of an absolute majority.
Parliamentary Speaker Bulent Arinc said he nullified the vote because the majority was not present. He closed parliament until Tuesday.
"We will assess all this," snapped Prime Minister Abdullah Gul, as he hastily called a meeting of his top ministers. It was not clear if his governing Justice and Development party would table the motion again when the assembly reconvened.
Hundreds of Turks celebrated in the streets of Ankara after hearing about the speaker's ruling. "We are all Iraqis," they chanted. "We will not kill, we will not die."
Saturday's close vote reflected strong Turkish division over the issue, and is expected to strain relations with the United States. Washington has been waiting weeks for permission to set up a temporary military base in the country.
Supply ships carrying thousands of troops and armour from the U.S. 4th Infantry Division are anchored off the coast of Turkey. Ankara and Washington are also discussing details of a multibillion-dollar economic aid package in the event of a war.
FROM FEB. 27, 2003: Turkey delays vote on U.S. troops again
The U.S. Ambassador to Turkey, Robert Pearson, said the White House will "wait for further information and advice from the government of Turkey about how we should proceed."
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Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1345445 - 03/01/03 04:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1345654 - 03/01/03 06:20 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanx, ~Turkey~ 
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 Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1345704 - 03/01/03 06:45 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, thats good... I think? More conflict though... I don't like conflict. 
I'm for sure anti-war, but, sheesh ... I still don't know what to think of it all.
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 Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: angryshroom]
#1345893 - 03/01/03 10:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know exactly what you mean, Angry. After the first sentence I went and made a sandwich.
Turkey always makes me Hungary.
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Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1346416 - 03/02/03 08:34 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsnat-3mar2003-6.htm
No plans for new Turkey vote on US troops: official
The Turkish Government has no immediate plans to submit another motion to Parliament on deploying US troops here for a possible Iraq war, a ruling party official said, a day after MPs rejected a similar motion.
"The motion has been postponed indefinitely, there is no motion in the foreseeable future," Eyup Fatsa, deputy chairman of the Justice and Development Party's parliamentary group, was quoted by the Anatolia news agency as saying.
He was speaking after several hours of talks at AKP headquarters between government and top party officials after parliament rejected a government motion on allowing 62,000 US soldiers to use the country as a base for a possible attack against Iraq.
Iraq reaction
Meanwhile, a senior Iraqi official has hailed the Turkish parliament's rejection of a motion to allow the deployment of 62,000 US soldiers in Turkey for a possible attack on Baghdad.
"We hail this decision and hope that the Turkish Parliament will maintain its position," Salem al-Qubaissi, head of the Iraqi parliament's committee for Arab and international affairs, said.
The Turkish Parliament's vote "would help strengthen good relations between the Iraqi and Turkish people, who are tied by history, and serve the interests of Turkey," Mr Qubaissi said, also a member of the ruling Baath Party.
The controversial government request to allow 62,000 US soldiers to deploy on Turkish soil for six months fell just three votes short on Saturday.
Of the 533 MPs present in the closed-door session of the assembly, 264 voted in favour of the motion, while 250 voted against and 19 abstained.
The motion needed the backing of half the MPs present, or 267 votes, to be approved.
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Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1348524 - 03/03/03 05:00 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn democracies. Next thing you know people will be getting together and talking to one another......
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Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: upupup]
#1348530 - 03/03/03 05:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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they just waiting out for the almighty $.
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Re: Turkey overturns vote to let in U.S. troops [Re: pattern]
#1348541 - 03/03/03 05:33 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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More than likely they'd rather invade and slaughter the kurds themselves. Don't worry tho, it's ok if they massacre civilians - they're our "allies"...
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US hits roadblock in push to war [Re: pattern]
#1349817 - 03/04/03 10:54 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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US hits roadblock in push to war
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=383711
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
04 March 2003
America admitted yesterday that the war due to begin as early as next week might have to be put back by at least a month because of Turkey's refusal to allow US ground troops to deploy there.
The surprise rejection by the parliament in Ankara made the planning "more complicated", Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, said. Some military analysts predicted that an attack of the speed and decisiveness President George Bush wants might have to be delayed until late March or even early April.
The United States sounded more determined than ever yesterday to use force to disarm and topple Saddam Hussein. Mr Fleischer again derided Iraq's destruction of six more al-Samoud 2 missiles, and Baghdad's last-ditch moves to account for missing chemical and biological agents. "Iraq is not co-operating ... they continue to fundamentally not disarm," he said.
Another carrier group, the Nimitz, left America last night to join five other carriers either in the Gulf region or on the way. The Pentagon issued deployment orders for 70,000 men of the 1st Cavalry division from Fort Hood, Texas, equipped for heavy ground combat. Nearly 250,000 American and British troops are now believed to be in the region.
Though some officials in Washington still cling to the hope that the Ankara parliament, which reconvenes today, will reconsider its decision, Pentagon planners are consid-ering whether to activate a "Plan B" for an invasion.
Thus far, the dozen heavy cargo ships carrying equipment for the 4th Infantry Division have not been rerouted from just off the Turkish coast where they have been waiting to unload. But if there is no change of heart in Ankara, the whole plan for a second front bearing down on Baghdad from the north will have to be redrawn.
Under the rejected deal, up to 62,000 men would have been sent to bases in eastern Turkey, poised to launch a massive operation southwards. Now, any such force would be more a holding one than offensive, its size unlikely to exceed 20,000, according to analysts.
Officials maintain this would suffice to cover the immediate objectives of protecting against any Iraqi thrust against the Kurds, to secure the oilfields around Kirkuk and Mosul, and tie down some Republican Guard units who would otherwise be directed south. But the American force would not be enough for a big strike.
American and British warplanes widened their attacks in the northern and southern no-fly zones in Iraq, in what amounted to a preliminary to the campaign proper. Targets had been Iraqi air defence installations that threatened the allied planes. But the attacks are now aimed at surface-to-surface missile batteries said to be in range of Anglo-American troops in Kuwait or of possible positions for American troops in Turkey. An Iraqi military spokesman claimed an Anglo-American strike on Sunday night killed six civilians and wounded 15 in the southern province of Basra.
Although the campaign may be delayed, there is no indication it will be halted. Yesterday the British Government announced it had given the United States permission to base 14 B-52 bombers at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire. The first wave of the long-range bombers arrived yesterday in an echo of the first Gulf War in 1991, when 60 missions were flown from the base.
Tony Blair was accused of concealing from the public the fact that a new Gulf War had already begun. Bernard Jenkin, the shadow Defence Secretary, said the "opening shots of the second Gulf War" had been fired. Anti-war Labour MPs claimed that war had begun by stealth. Doug Henderson, a former armed forces minister, said the increased activity in the no-fly zones was a "slide into war". Alice Mahon suggested that war had been started through the "back door".
Although Downing Street denied any change of policy, Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, told the Commons: "There is no doubt that our forces have been undertaking more frequent patrols involving a broader range of aircraft in the no-fly zones."
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