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heart rate??
    #1347924 - 03/03/03 03:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i was wondering.. while you are tripping.. does your heart rate increase because of excitement or does it increase because of the psilocybin??? what is the risk of a heart attack while on shrooms and has anyone ever had a bad trip thinking they were gonna die because of heart attack?? lol


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1347929 - 03/03/03 03:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not sure WHY your heart rate increases, but it's pretty natural as far as tripping goes. It's hard for your heart NOT to beat faster when the whole universe is coming straight at you and the walls are melting in front of your eyes and you're entering a whole new dimension...
If your heart is healthy and you're not prone to heart problems, then I see no reason why someone would have a heart attack on a trip. Ever see the warnings at theme parks for rollercoasters - "People with heart problems should refrain from taking this ride"... :wink: 


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: Sheepish]
    #1347943 - 03/03/03 03:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There's no special risk for a heart attacks on shrooms(as far as i know)

I thing the high heart rate is because of the excitement. But it could be a natural reaction against the psilocybin...

Try not to worry about your heart while tripping! I never feel my heart while tripping and it's pretty scary but try not to worry about it. It will be ok....


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: Annom]
    #1347946 - 03/03/03 03:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanx 4 the advice!


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1348542 - 03/03/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah your heart can beat at 200 bpm for days and you won't die.


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1349557 - 03/04/03 11:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not sure about this, but i heard that shrooms (and possibly even acid) are part stimulant, making you wide awake while tripping. One thing i've noticed is the same feeling i get on speed, that by even just sitting there with my eyes closed and slowing my body down to nothingness, i still won't fall asleep, and i attribute that to the stimulating effects.
like wise i think weed might be part depressent even though its an hallucogen, but sometimes i'm hyper when i'm high so i'm really doubting that theory.


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: loupgaroublond]
    #1350199 - 03/04/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I was actually worried about this before my first trip. but while i was tripping i couldnt even feel my heart beating.
I was worried because i do notice my heart a lot when i smoke pot. Thats my biggest problem with pot.


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1350260 - 03/04/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

my heart beats really fucking fast when im really stoned, but when im tripping im usually just kicking back taking it all in, so it just beats normal.


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1350697 - 03/04/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

How accurate (if at all) this is I don't know.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_471.html

The myocardial infarction in the frequent users and in cases of sever intoxication suggest the possibility of cardiac damage related to psilocybin. According to recent studies, indole alkaloids are agonists at the 5-HT receptor in the central nervous system. However, peripherally they induce a sympathomimetic stimulation that leads to tachycardia and hypertension. In the past, the use of 5-HT agonists in migraine headaches was linked to myocardial infarction due to coronary vasoconstriction. In addition, serotonin receptor agonists can cause platelet hyperaggregation and occlusion of small coronary arteries. Because psilocybin is also an agonist of 5-HT receptors, it is conclusive from these observations that the use of this drug can lead to cardiac toxicity (Borowiak 1998).


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Re: heart rate?? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1351313 - 03/05/03 03:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for all the information guys .. by the way my heart beats soo fast when im stoned too.. thats what made me wonder about shrooms.. i dont want it to turn into a bad trip just because i feel like im gonna have a heart attack lol


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