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Making My Own Cyan Patch
    #13475001 - 11/12/10 05:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I know of a park that has tons of cyan pins/mycelium EVERYWHERE, and what i am going to try to do is make my own woodchip patch at my house from transplanting mycelium/fresh cyans into my own woodchips. Will this work?

I have some cyans i picked with the caps COVERED in purple brown spores. What ive been doing is scraping off the spores with my fingers and wiping it off into water and i pour the water into my own woodchips i made here at my house

I also have been putting stem butts of mycelium in there too with actual live cyanescens also. And a pinecone with a cyan/mycelium growing from it i buried in there too

Will the spores/mycelium start growing next spring and fruit next year's fall? Or do i have to do the mycelium spawning indoors first?


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13475068 - 11/12/10 05:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Your best bet would be to isolate pure mycelium on agar, and then take that to grains.  Spend the winter expanding out the grain spawn into sterilized sawdust, and then in the spring, use your fully colonized sawdust blocks to inoculate your outdoor bed.
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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13475155 - 11/12/10 06:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Your best bet would be to isolate pure mycelium on agar, and then take that to grains.  Spend the winter expanding out the grain spawn into sterilized sawdust, and then in the spring, use your fully colonized sawdust blocks to inoculate your outdoor bed.
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yup thats exactly what i thought...so there isnt a way to do it by just putting mycelium into my own woodchips and hope it starts next spring?

Because when i tried to grow cubes i got so much contams i am traumatized :lol: So im trying to kinda beat around that bush ya know

I am for sure ordering azurescen spores soon and will be transferring that mycelium into the woodchips, but could what im doing with the cyans work?

Oh and i really appreciate your reply RR...i dont know who could tell me better :grin::thumbup:


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477584 - 11/13/10 09:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Can i just pressure cook some woodchips, and take the jar of pressure cooked woodchips to the park in a backpack, and QUICKLY open the jar and put a stem butt of mycelium in there and colonize it indoors?

That would probly get contams hah? :lol: Bring some lysol and spray it all in my back pack and do the procedure in there to be sterile :lol:

Could that work?


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477651 - 11/13/10 09:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Inoculating during the winter is a bad idea. Cold-weather species or not, the mycelium needs reasonable temperatures to colonize. Meaning you can do as RR said and have vegetative growth going through the winter so you can inoculate during the spring, OR you can just inoculate your spores in the spring. RR's idea is better.

But you won't get cyans fruiting outdoors during the spring or sunmer, no matter how hard you try.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: Niwita]
    #13477796 - 11/13/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Im not planning on getting them to fruit anytime soon. Im planning on growing the mycelium in the woodchips all summer and hope they fruit by next falltime

And just in case the mycelium doesnt work too good from transplanting in winter, then i will TRY to start an indoor culture like RR said. But not with agar or grains.

Can i just spawn some mycelium into PC'd woodchips or grains like i mentioned before? I dont have any agar to work with. Just lysol, woodchips, and grains. :shrug:




Doesn't mycelium stay wherever a patch is at all year long? For instance,...after mushroom season for the PNW is over, and it starts freezing real hard and slowly goes into spring,....the mycelium in the cyan patches stays there to keep growing next spring doesnt it?

So couldn't i just transplant/rape a patch of mycelium in the springtime and put it in my own woodchips? Just in case i get contams from trying to spawn indoors.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477825 - 11/13/10 10:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You can use cardboard or woodchips, a combination is good too. The mycelium would survive throughout the winter, yes. It just wouldn't colonize.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: Niwita]
    #13477857 - 11/13/10 10:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Do the woodchips have to stay moist? Or do they automatically retain enough moisture to grow the mycelium all winter? Or would i have to re-gain the moisture in there somehow?

I am going to spawn the mycelium into a jar of soaked and PC'd alder woodchips bought fresh from the store. Should i poke a hole in the lid for air exchange?


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477894 - 11/13/10 10:47 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Treat it the same way you would if you were making spawn for anything else.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: Niwita]
    #13477957 - 11/13/10 10:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I dont grow mushies...sorry to not mention that. Im totally new when it comes to this.

But i guess i will just poke a hole in the lid of the soaked and PC'd jars of woodchips and put a stem butt of mycelium in there and HOPE i dont get contams

Gotta go buy some lysol


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13477965 - 11/13/10 11:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Best advice.  I'd follow it.

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Your best bet would be to isolate pure mycelium on agar, and then take that to grains.  Spend the winter expanding out the grain spawn into sterilized sawdust, and then in the spring, use your fully colonized sawdust blocks to inoculate your outdoor bed.
RR




If you aren't so inclined you can take a section of a bed and transplant it.  (It is actually much more work, isn't guaranteed, you will fail at least a few times because there are some tricks to it, and is prone to several types of failure.)

You can modify RR tek above by using cardboard and woodchips as well... Agar to grain to cardboard to sawdust to woodchips to woodchip bed....

If I was you I'd keep pickin' 24/7.... Aaaaarrrghhh.... :pirate:

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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477969 - 11/13/10 11:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Look at some of the standard procedures in making spawn jars for either gourmet/medicinals or other hallucinogenics, and repeat the process but with chips instead of grains. I believe RR's videos have a section on preparation.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13477979 - 11/13/10 11:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ummm... Yes and no.  I've done that with woodlovers but with straight unknown woodchips you will prolly fail like I did or it will take months for it to take off.  Use beech-wood dowels if you want to do that.  Soak them for 30 hours or so, rinse, and PC.  But you are already skipping the AGAR step.  :nonono:  You can do agar - grain or agar to beech wood dowels.  the dowels are expensive so go to grain then to cardboard... Then you are pretty much set.

You should start there, with agar.  It makes everything wayyy wayyy easier especially for noobs.  doing exotics means learning agar.  Just my 2 cents.  It can be daunting but it is totally worth it.. And will transition you into growing edibles and harder to grow mushrooms like maitake and yellow morels if you ever want to do that.

Don't worry we can tell you don't grow mushies... :lol:

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I dont grow mushies...sorry to not mention that. Im totally new when it comes to this.

But i guess i will just poke a hole in the lid of the soaked and PC'd jars of woodchips and put a stem butt of mycelium in there and HOPE i dont get contams

Gotta go buy some lysol




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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: Raw]
    #13479007 - 11/13/10 03:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well i dont have any money, nor know where to buy the beechwood dowels or agar. So my best bet would be to spawn mycelium to grains before chips?


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13479216 - 11/13/10 04:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I understand what you want to do. What your saying you have available. Everyone else is trying to explain to you. The myc is going to die over winter if you dont use that technique. Your technique that you want to try now; may work in spring if you take the myc from the ground and colonize it outdoors on cardboard and wood chips. (Mark a area where you can find the myc after winter)

Contams are going to battle you too hard trying to colonize wood chips indoors. Unless you can provide sterile woodchips and start the myc on agar. Your myc will not grow outdoors over winter. If you want to try it, go for it.. the chances of success are unlikely.

Another Idea:
Theres technique called spore bombing that paul stamets came up with. I dont think its been done with cyan spores but it could be attempted. Right now you have thousands of spores available.


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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: OregonChronic]
    #13479384 - 11/13/10 05:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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So my best bet would be to spawn mycelium to grains before chips?




Yes, but only if you have isolated a pure culture first, if you have a clean culture it's best to go from that to sterilised grain then to sterilised sawdust then to the outdoor bed, going from colonised grain directly to an outdoor bed can work but is more likely to become contaminated compared with colonised sawdust.

You have a 100% chance of failure if you try to inoculate sterilised grain with mycelium collected from the wild, you need a clean culture to inoculate sterilised substrates.
With the tools you have your best bet is to collect some colonised chips from an established bed and use them to spawn to an outdoor bed of fresh hardwood chips in spring, success is not guaranteed and the bed will probably take two seasons before fruiting occurs.
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Re: Making My Own Cyan Patch [Re: inski]
    #23861080 - 11/23/16 03:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

hey old thread :smile:

But for anyone browsing looking for tips on cyans....What was said here first, best way going....just get some of the mycelium, get some fresh decidous wood chip, or dried beechwood reptile chip, soak them for 48-72 hours,  fill a big bucket, container, liner, whatever and dump it all in. mix it up. set in a dark cool place (not freezing) and leave them alone for about 6 weeks.  In six weeks check them  if you see good growth, mix it up and leave three - four weeks. Should be colonised by then or well on its way...thats a spawn run and you can repeat really easy with fresh chips.  In the early spring dump it outside on a prepared bed and mix it up with about 2-4 inches deep fresh wood chips  in a shady spot. Cover it with cardboard and soak it regularly. In mid fall, when its getting cooler and wetter, lift the cardboard and let it go.  Its as simple a method as it gets and it works :smile: No need for anything fancy.

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