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any blue collar's ???
    #13477653 - 11/13/10 09:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

any of you out there working blue collar rough neck jobs? what do you do? how long have you been in this profession? do you enjoy it? is the money good? did you get any sort of trade school degree or did you start off level entry than worked your way up? do you have any future plans in this profession?

sorry about all the questions, but im trying to figure out what i want to do with my life. first i was thinking about computers, but there is no way i can keep up. than i was thinking about a bullshit office job, but sitting still doesnt really work out for me so i thought i would talk with a few of you that are in the same situation.

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Dunno]
    #13477656 - 11/13/10 09:56 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I used to install satellite dishes.  114F standing on a black roof getting pissed off because you can't seem to get the satellite in view because of the giant elm tree that's blocking line of sight... fun times.

I probably won't ever go off to become a lifelong sat install tech.  I want to go back to school.

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Dunno]
    #13477668 - 11/13/10 10:00 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

among other things... mechanic, millwright, welder/fabricator and farmer

you know the difference between a white collar and a blue collar worker?


white collar washes his hands after he takes a piss

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13477698 - 11/13/10 10:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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among other things... mechanic, millwright, welder/fabricator and farmer

you know the difference between a white collar and a blue collar worker?


white collar washes his hands after he takes a piss





Is that it?  Cuz I could always carry around a bucket of water and some soap on a rope in the truck. :wink:

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13477705 - 11/13/10 10:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:

well right now i work in a warehouse, which ive been doing for the past 4 years and its great. i love the labor and the hours always seem to work out, but the pay is... okay. i make enough to pay the bills and thats it.

to be honest, i wouldnt mind moving up in a company starting from the bottom. i just really dont know where to start. like what degrees i should get. who i need to impress. what people i need to talk too...

i also wouldnt mind going to a trade school and earning one of those 1-2 year degrees, i just dont know what profession i want to put my time into. even my chick has her shit planned out. she wants to get her degree in dental asst. its not a 6 digit job, but it is respectable and there is money to be made. if i can just figure out what i want/ need to do than everything will be :thumbup:.


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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Maverick]
    #13477708 - 11/13/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I think you should take a serious look at the folks you're working with if you need to keep soap on a rope

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13477712 - 11/13/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I think you should take a serious look at the folks you're working with if you need to keep soap on a rope




:lolsy:

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13477716 - 11/13/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I think you should take a serious look at the folks you're working with if you need to keep soap on a rope




:lol:


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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Dunno] * 1
    #13478204 - 11/13/10 11:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, i'll chime in.

I was raised by Academic parents, although only moderately succeeded in school because of my rebellious pre-20's years. Because of my upbringing, i was a firm believer in the academic professions and had a negative view of trades people.

These days, in my mid 20's and finally feeling directed and wanting more from my life than a job that pays the bills, i've gained a healthier perspective on what i value in a job.

Although i do want to go to school for sciences, i am not sure the competitiveness or lifestyle with a career as a biologist or some such would allow me... I am very much sitting on a ledge, unsure of which path to take. Academic or Trades...

I am seriously considering Carpentry. I have limited experience with carpentry and wood work, but know enough that i am familiar, curious and relatively competent with hand tools, blueprint reading, etc, am physically able and am familiar with the atmosphere of that type of job site...

Realistically, as a journeyman carpenter, i would likely be making as much or more than my father, who is a biologist and has been his whole life.

Trades pay the bills quick if you play your cards right + they leave anyone open to entrepreneurship, an excellent opportunity to start their own business and really get ahead in life.

Both careers are intellectually stimulating and physically challenging, but in very different ways. I very much believe that owning a contracting company would be every bit as satisfying as studying the wilderness...

Trades pay more, are more practical, and will help me buy a house, start a family and afford me more recreation time than science ever will.

It's a toss up.

I'll tell you this though - I've just started working for a fire/flood restoration company. I get paid pretty decent and my job is super easy - it is not exactly what i want to be doing, although it is by far the best job i've had. I love working with my hands, i love the variety of work, and i love the responsibility the employer gives to me using a wide variety of equipment and driving all sorts of trucks and what not.

What i keep thinking is: I can work for this company for a year, and probably make $17/18hr + get lots of overtime. Or i can go to school for carpentry for 7 months, it'll cost me $4000 and i'll leave school with a job paying $18/20 and probably considerably more within a year or so. Every short term of school in an apprenticeship program is 10weeks, and your earning potential jumps considerably.

Building a skill, and equity will not hurt you in any way, and in most cases - the schooling is short and affordable. If you choose the wrong trade, it's not devestating like choosing the wrong major/degree.


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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: PDU]
    #13478405 - 11/13/10 01:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well whatever you do PDU, don't drop the soap!

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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: PDU]
    #13478516 - 11/13/10 01:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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PDU said:
Ok, i'll chime in.

I was raised by Academic parents, although only moderately succeeded in school because of my rebellious pre-20's years. Because of my upbringing, i was a firm believer in the academic professions and had a negative view of trades people.

These days, in my mid 20's and finally feeling directed and wanting more from my life than a job that pays the bills, i've gained a healthier perspective on what i value in a job.

Although i do want to go to school for sciences, i am not sure the competitiveness or lifestyle with a career as a biologist or some such would allow me... I am very much sitting on a ledge, unsure of which path to take. Academic or Trades...

I am seriously considering Carpentry. I have limited experience with carpentry and wood work, but know enough that i am familiar, curious and relatively competent with hand tools, blueprint reading, etc, am physically able and am familiar with the atmosphere of that type of job site...

Realistically, as a journeyman carpenter, i would likely be making as much or more than my father, who is a biologist and has been his whole life.

Trades pay the bills quick if you play your cards right + they leave anyone open to entrepreneurship, an excellent opportunity to start their own business and really get ahead in life.

Both careers are intellectually stimulating and physically challenging, but in very different ways. I very much believe that owning a contracting company would be every bit as satisfying as studying the wilderness...

Trades pay more, are more practical, and will help me buy a house, start a family and afford me more recreation time than science ever will.

It's a toss up.

I'll tell you this though - I've just started working for a fire/flood restoration company. I get paid pretty decent and my job is super easy - it is not exactly what i want to be doing, although it is by far the best job i've had. I love working with my hands, i love the variety of work, and i love the responsibility the employer gives to me using a wide variety of equipment and driving all sorts of trucks and what not.

What i keep thinking is: I can work for this company for a year, and probably make $17/18hr + get lots of overtime. Or i can go to school for carpentry for 7 months, it'll cost me $4000 and i'll leave school with a job paying $18/20 and probably considerably more within a year or so. Every short term of school in an apprenticeship program is 10weeks, and your earning potential jumps considerably.

Building a skill, and equity will not hurt you in any way, and in most cases - the schooling is short and affordable. If you choose the wrong trade, it's not devestating like choosing the wrong major/degree.





I have been a self employed contractor for 25 years.  When I was getting my bachelors I worked construction summers whenever I could get a job.  I liked it.  I did quite well in school and most definitely could have pursued it further but had no desire.  My primary trade was carpentry, especially framing.  I have at various times employed up to 25 people, counting subcontractors.  I build high end houses that almost always entail complicated framing.  It is heavily math oriented and 3d conceptualization is essential.  Also people skills.  Not only do you have to manage your employees but you have to deal with a disparate group of clients.  You have to watch out for cover their ass architects without alienating them.  I really liked what it did to my body at first but at 53 years of age I am paying for it with skin cancer and perpetually sore joints.  It was lots of fun and I have made lots of money.  Almost all of my work now involves construction management.  It is the rare sub or client who can fool me about anything.

I learned my trade by doing.  I have no regrets and am damn proud of the work I have done.  I have risen to the absolute top of my field and am beholden to no one.  It isn't for everyone.  You sweat balls.  But if you have the right temperament then I would encourage anyone to do it.  It is only likely to be more lucrative because fewer and fewer young people go that way and the demand has not and will not diminish.


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Re: any blue collar's ??? [Re: Dunno]
    #13478810 - 11/13/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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any of you out there working blue collar rough neck jobs? what do you do? how long have you been in this profession? do you enjoy it? is the money good? did you get any sort of trade school degree or did you start off level entry than worked your way up? do you have any future plans in this profession?

sorry about all the questions, but im trying to figure out what i want to do with my life. first i was thinking about computers, but there is no way i can keep up. than i was thinking about a bullshit office job, but sitting still doesnt really work out for me so i thought i would talk with a few of you that are in the same situation.

thanks




ROFL, same here.


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