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Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! * 18
    #13477272 - 11/13/10 07:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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WHAT WAS DONE:


Species: Psilocybe cyanescens (Wavy Caps)
Activity: High (dried 12-25mg/gr)
Dimensions: 3 x 2 foot, 10 inches thick (approx 150 ltr)
Substrate: Course Beech Woodchips (pet bedding)
Purpose: Outdoor Spawn Reservoir
Status: mature bed, second flush
Location: Holland, early november



THE BED



Here's the bed. It was allowed to become mossy to see whether the patch moisture level would be positively affected and whether the moss would allow the patch to not just fruit on the sides (it's an uncased beech wood chip patch, which tend to only fruit peripherally), and with this second flush, the most abundant ever seen on this patch, a month after the first, this appears to be the case.



Wavy Caps poking right through the moss





Cream of the crop, what not to like about this picture? All aspects of the habitat show beautifully





Mycelium showing, note the wavy margins





Various growth stages, overgrowth as can be seen were stingy nettles




Tight cluster near the wall at the patch's edge





Note the prominent umbo's on the caps!





Harvesting just the biggest ones of the patch yielded 80 grams fresh; ~4gr fresh on average. Note the blueing already on the stems and the spore-bearing lamellae.




Given the number of shrooms still on the patch, this one flush will definitely yield about a dried ounce if it can ripen before the frost. The first flush, in early october, yielded about 8 dried grams.

Now, a bit later, the 1 dried ounce barrier was broken.

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HOW TO DO IT:

--You go to the webshops of some Shroomery Sponsors and buy a Psilocybe cyanescens spore syringe, some vermiculite and some brown rice flour. If they are out of Psilocybe cyanescens syringes you can opt for Psilocybe azurescens, Psilocybe subaeruginosa, Psilocybe bohemica, Psilocybe arcana, Psilocybe serbica or Psilocybe moravica for similar results.

--You get a bunch of 1/2 pint jars (like ~250ml veggie jars from the supermarket) and with a nail you punch a hole in the center of the lids.

--of every 4 jars, you fill 2 with vermiculite, 1 with brown rice flour and 1 with water, then mix this to a loose "dough" and you loosely fill the jars with it, leaving about an inch free at the tops of the jars. Clean the inner rims, then cover with half an inch of straight, dry vermiculite and lay on the lids, don't screw them on. Cover the lids with a layer of tin foil.

--take a cooking pot, put a dishwashing cloth in and pour in 2 inches of water, then put the jars on top of that, on the stove and cover with a lid. Bring to a boil, then boil for 1 hour. Turn off the gas and let it cool down to room temperature overnight, leaving the lid of the pot on.

--the next day, take the jars out of the cooking pot and put them on the table. Shake the spore syringe well, then de-cap it, heat the needle with a disposable lighter till it sputters and drive it though the tin foil, through the hole, through the covering layer of vermiculite in your substrate. Wait 15 seconds then inject a bit of spore solution. Pull the needle out slowly and cover the tin foil with another layer of fresh tin foil. Repeat with all the jars. A syringe is generally 10cc. You should in theory be able to do 5 x 4 jars with it, but in practice 3x4 jars is more than ample. Put the jars in a closet at room temperature. You want to avoid drafts and excessive light. Do not handle the jars at all, if you can.

--After about 3-9 weeks, the jars will be completely covered in white mycelium, which basically looks as if they are stuffed with pure white cotton. Discard all jars that show strange colors immediately, by throwing them away whole and unopened. Now a joyous time begins: You have finished Sterile Technique and won't EVER have to work that carefully again.

--go to a petstore and get hardwood woodchips used for animal bedding. Do not use the ubiquitous yellowish compressed blocks of wood fiber, these are almost invariably softwoods (like pine) which are too resinous to support growth. What you want is the big loose bags of untreated wood chips. Good kinds are beech, oak, birch, chestnut, alder, maple, cottonwood, willow, aspen, poplar, elm , sweet gum and sycamore wood chips. Chips used in smoking (fish or meat) are usually perfect.

--How many jars have made it?  Multiply this number by 10-20 and scoop that many jars of dry chips into a large container, and cover it with water, and leave it to soak up water for 24 hours, then let the water leach out for at least 1 hour.
Lets for simplicity's sake say 1 jar made it, and that you are preparing 10 jars of wood chips (2.5 liters) for it.

--open the jar(s) with mycelium and scratch the contents out with a fork in a bowl. Use the fork to crumble the mycelial mass as finely as you can. Then, add it to the 10fold excess of leached wood chips and mix it really well. Put it into a plastic storage box to a depth of about 4-10 inches and cover it with a trashbag, which you secure in place with a few clothespins so that iot is covered but the mycelium can breathe. Keep this at room temperature for several weeks to months, until it has grown shut. If its needed, but chances are it won't, mist the mycelium occasionally with a plant mister. When the chips are colonized a joyous time begins, because at this point it becomes very hard to screw the grow up anymore!

--If you don't have a garden and don't want to guerilla farm, you can put these boxes outside in autumn when temperatures range to 50'F to a little above freezing, the fully colonized chips covered with half an inch of potting soil. At these temperatures the mushrooms will fruit directly on top of the substrate, even if you don't use the soil layer.

--Outdoor cultivation of the wood lovers is possible in the plant hardiness zones 6, 7 and 8.
The range can likely be extended also to zone 5, but the beds will need to be protected by applying a layer of fresh wood chips or a thicker layer of straw to survive the low temperatures in winter. You can check what USDA Hardiness zone you live in. If you grow in boxes and only take them outdoors during a few months of temperatures from 50'F to a little above freezing, colder zones are possible.

--If you do have a garden or want to take it to the forest, prepare wood chips by soaking and leaching as described before. Again, you use 10-20 times the volume. One jar led to 10 jars in the plastic box and thus will need 100 jars (25 liters = 6.5 gallons) of wood chips.

--In the ground, dig small tenches or holes about 4-10 inches deep. If you want to maximize your initial harvests, make trenches 4 inches deep and wide and as long as you want, side by side, spaced 4 inches apart. If you want maximum spawn per surface area, make it a few big shallow holes 10 inches deep. Use the moistest parts of your garden or forest, and especially under bushes etc where theres little wind and light. You guessed it: the very parts of your garden useless for gardening!

--break up the spawn, the fully grown woodchips from the box, as finely as possible and mix them very well with the excess of leached wood chips, then dump it into the trenches or holes. The chips level should be about even with the ground. At this point you can use your bare hands or a spade to do the mixing and handling. Alternatively you can simply cover the ground under the bushes with a 4 inch thick layer of chips and be rid of it. Its good to make several locations where you dump the spawn to always have a backup in case weed mushrooms take over a grow. This can be in the same garden, but I urge you to go evangelical and offer to mulch the gardens of tripping friends, make patches into the wild etc.

--if you did all this in spring, in late autumn you might already see your first harvest. If it does or doesnt, next season there will be a harvest. Water the patchers if really needed in summer, but dont overwater them. Shrooms are akin to the creature from the horror movie "The Thing": every single part of the organism, no matter how tiny, can be introduced to fresh wood chips and grow out to replicate the whole organism. The patch can dry out a bit, and revitalize after rain. It can take frosts of -25'C/0'F if it has to. At this point a really joyous time begins because not only will you be harvesting one of the worlds strongest mushrooms each year with minimal effort, but your grow has become virtually indestructible.

--in the years to come, after the patches showed their first or a few seasons of mushrooms, you can break up the patches and use them as spawn to make more patches. One mushroom patch can be expanded to ten mushroom patches. Ten to 100. You end up mulching gardens of nontripping family members because they see the benefits to their garden and see the mushrooms as a really cute addition to their garden in late fall. You can go to the forest with bags of spawn and mix it with decaying wood, here, there, everywhere!


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IS IT WORTH IT?



You be the judge. What I described, if taken step by step, is REALLY easy to do. It doesnt require expensive equipment or unobtainable supplies. It has a high success rate.

Wavy caps like in the picture have a potency of 12-25mg psiloc(yb)in per dried gram, making them 2-4x more potent than the common cubie thats being sold. They are easily identified and turn blue on bruising like nobodies business. The high, compared to cubies, seems to be clearer, higher energy, and more euphoric than that of cubies. If you dry them and store them in a jar in a dark closet they are still strong a year later. In the freezer, they stay potent for a decade or more.

Once the ball is rolling your growing of one of the strongest shrooms in the world becomes as sophisticated as the most basic gardening, and you in essence invest big bags of woodchips to get big bags of powerful shrooms. You will no longer be dependent on what a shady dealer might offer, but instead you have 100% organic shrooms in abundance, more than you can eat, and with your spawn you have the possibility to make your tripping friends independent too.

So you tell me, is it worth it?


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13477288 - 11/13/10 07:52 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is awesome. Think it could be done in summertime Atlantic northeast? Probably not eh...


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Caine]
    #13477311 - 11/13/10 08:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Nicely done!


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Caine]
    #13477315 - 11/13/10 08:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If you are in the right hardiness zone, you can start the grow at any time in the year. At worst, you won't harvest this year but have to wait a year more before they show themselves.

Are you between 5-8 on these maps?






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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13477317 - 11/13/10 08:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: DoSedLiving]
    #13477357 - 11/13/10 08:20 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If at any time you have temperatures between 50'F to about freezing, you can grow the majority of the time indoors and take it outdoors at those times.

I'm putting this here to entice people to take up the hobby :smile:

Our Mushroom Cultivation forum can be intimidating at times, but its really not that hard to grow shrooms in this era of spore syringes.

If you want a similar tek as a pictorial, our admin Anno has a site where he offers a very accessible technique to grow all sorts of mushrooms.

Fungifun.org

The sterile phase

Wood chip psilo gardening

Many people are put off by mushroom cultivation because they think its terribly complex. Don't be! It used to be complex but nowadays and especially for shroomerites its easy.

If you want a hobby other than tripping balls, how about growing unlimited amounts of mushrooms that will make you trip balls? :awesome:

At first my cat and I frowned at what needed to be done. Then we just let it rest for some years and did nothing. Then finally we went to work, step by step and now every time the summer dies and cold and rain descend on the land we go  :sambergfive:  as the shrooms come up.

Once you are past the jars phase, your psilo garden won't take any more work than the rest of your garden, in fact if you grow veggies its even less labor intensive!


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    #13477363 - 11/13/10 08:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wiccan you are an evil genius :mushroom2:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: DoSedLiving]
    #13477370 - 11/13/10 08:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Is all pricelesss IMO


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #13477424 - 11/13/10 08:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Oh if y'all have access to woodlovers growing in the wild, its even far easier than that:


THE WOODLOVER SMOOTHIE TEK

Last year I had an idea for a cultivation of woodlovers that absolutely begged to be put to the test. I have put it to the test, and I succeeded.

There was NO sterile technique.
There was NO agar.
There was NO grain.
There was NO Pressure Cooking.
There was NO oven heating.

And yet I succeeded. I am now the proud owner of a storage box with 15 liters bright white, strongly rhizomorphic Psilocybe cyanescens mycelium, with that special mycelial odor I have come to love so much.
What did I do?

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WOODLOVER SMOOTHIE TEK


1..soak the right kinds of dried woodchips in desinfecting water for three hours.

You can prepare this solution easily by adding 100ml household bleach (5% sodium hypochlorite without additives) to 10 liters of water. Don't worry, it's what they use in swimming pools and in commercial edible mushroom cultivation.

2..leach the woodchips for several hours to get rid of excess moisture.

3..take fresh woodlover mushrooms, add ten parts of water and blenderize it to a "woodlover smoothie". Your goal is to create a suspension of very fine mycelium bits and spores in the water, so blenderize for a full minute, even when the job seems done in 15 seconds. You are creating a very heavy mycelial inoculant in a liquid that has as much spores as spore syringe fluid. I used 30gr fresh Psilocybe cyanescens mushrooms in 300ml water to inoculate 15 liters of soaked woodchips.

4..spread out the woodchips and sprinkle the mycelial solution over it, turning it regularly with very clean hands or gloves. Your goal is to get a dab of the mycelium/spore inoculant on every bit of wood. When you are done, keep mixing up the woodchips because the inoculated chips will rub off mycelium onto the untreated chips.

5..put the woodchips into a plastic storage box and cover it with a sheet of plastic which you fasten with clothespins. It should breathe, but not let dust fall in. Store this in the dark at room temperature. The woodchips will colonize in the usual time of a spawn inoculation.

There you have it! With woodlover mushrooms you collect in the wild you can very easily create loads upon loads of mycelium. Once the mycelium has colonized the woodchips, you can use one part of this spawn to inoculate five parts of moistened woodchips.

A couple of small woodlover mushrooms inoculate a storage box, a storage box inoculates a thrashcan and a thrashcan full of spawn can be used to inoculate several gardens and wild patches.

This TEK can be used on any scale. You can inoculate a few jars with one tiny mushroom you found, or load up a supersoaker water gun and guerilla-inoculate a whole mulched park :grin:

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Low-tech woodlover cultivation: The Woodlover Smoothie TEK


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #13477475 - 11/13/10 08:54 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome simpleness. I'm starting a patch this fall. I'll have me some azures in about a week when I go to the coast.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13477483 - 11/13/10 08:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #13477507 - 11/13/10 09:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

very nice wiccan! I should check my Azure bed, although a few days ago there was still nothing..

I love the vibe of the woodlovers :tongue2:


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    #13477526 - 11/13/10 09:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What do yall think about the crazy side effects some say woodlovers can give. Weird muscle cramping and stuff? I've never experienced that myself.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #13477737 - 11/13/10 10:15 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

this is my next project


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    #13477741 - 11/13/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wiccan, if you can get those beasties to grow in the Sierras, I'll worship you.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Maverick] * 1
    #13477752 - 11/13/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L. write-up


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13477754 - 11/13/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

nicechrisman said:
What do yall think about the crazy side effects some say woodlovers can give. Weird muscle cramping and stuff? I've never experienced that myself.




From maggots/bugs being inside the cap maybe?

I recall hearing something about it not being a good idea to eat liberty caps fresh as it's possible to pick up some intestinal parasite or something. Never stopped me though I always get a bad stomach after mushies. Rough come up until I'm actually tripping.


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    #13477777 - 11/13/10 10:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

damn, i just realized that this grow prob cant happen in a texas climate


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    #13477892 - 11/13/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Now I just need to find some cyans. How is Cali the most liberal state yet one of the few that doesn't allow spore syringes? Smh.


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    #13477980 - 11/13/10 11:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Nice, definitely bookmarking this. Hopefully I can start a patch next year after we move out of town. For right now I have to start getting out there and finding my first P. cyanescens. Maybe tomorrow, besides I have to have an excuse to break in my new book that just came in the mail. Mushrooms Demystified, xmas was early!


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    #13478001 - 11/13/10 11:11 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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    #13478027 - 11/13/10 11:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Very beautiful!! I do hope to take a shot at cultivating some day soon. And with teks like these available there's no reason I shouldn't be succesful. Thank u


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    #13481454 - 11/14/10 05:37 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The side effects described of woodlovers (temporary paralysis, twitching) typically happen with high doses and are described of cubies too, though more infrequently.

It could be an alkaloid but I think a peptide resulting from breakdown of psilocybe proteins might possibly be responsible.

3 grams of cyans typically hold 38-75mg psiloc(yb)in, comparable with 6-12 gr cubies, people often dont realize that. One dried gram compares favorably with 2-4 dried grams of cubies. Woodlovers tend to have a clearer high than cubies in the experience of several people I know, making people generally underestimate the dosage they're on.

There IS something going on with higher dosages of woodlovers and some of us watch this closely.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13481461 - 11/14/10 05:48 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I can testify to the potency of woodlovers, being one who is fortunate enough to live in a climate that is conducive to Subaeruginosa growth, They really can knock your socks off, even in small doses like 2-3 grams can be quite heavy. :awesome:


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    #13481482 - 11/14/10 06:06 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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    #13603052 - 12/08/10 06:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Great stuff again Wiccan, taking the confusion away for newbies.

Bookmarked :thumbup:


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    #13603139 - 12/08/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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    #13603275 - 12/08/10 06:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13603450 - 12/08/10 07:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wiccan, do you know ranges these can grow in?  Is there any chance I might be able to get these to grow east of the sierras?  The main problem is we can get random frosts all the way up to June with 90-100F temps in the day dropping way cool at night.  I'm in zone 7.

I have moss growing out back by a pinetree but it's very acidic oil and it's always wet because it's our low spot in the yard (drainage), not sure if the acidic level is good though.

I know they have to grow outdoors, but how can I go about doing it? :frown:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13603552 - 12/08/10 07:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well you spiked my interest some.  I may just go do this now.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Bipolarbear]
    #13603621 - 12/08/10 08:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Do they have to be put outdoors in order to fruit? I live way up north in alberta the lows around here are a solid -50c, would it be possible to create a mini indoor ecosystem? would it need timed lighting to induce fruiting?


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Dunno]
    #13603718 - 12/08/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Why not? Are you in the way southern texas area? Not going to act like I know what I'm talking about (I'm really new to this stuff) but I see mushrooms growing all the time around here. (Houston)


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Tesla_Collider]
    #13603736 - 12/08/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Even though this thread serves humanity in a great way, I must admit, I hoped to see this as the 'show you guys something' part :mad2:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #13604020 - 12/08/10 09:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

With all the snow we've had now I guess I missed this :sad:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #13620805 - 12/12/10 10:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wiccan_Seeker is the timeline only allow fruiting in the fall?  Where I live in Georgia we see normal outdoor weilii growth for a brief spurt in the spring.  If I start the sterilization process around Christmas can I get azures to grow in the spring?  Looking over the links it shows:


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January, February:
Grain spawn or PF cakes preparation.

February, March:
Transfer of the colonized spawn to sterilized or pasteurized wood chips.

March, April, May (as soon the snow melts):
Transfer of the colonized wood chips to outdoor wood chips beds.

(September), October, November, (December)
Fruiting.





Is that only for certain hardiness zones or do azurescens only fruit in the fall?


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Bipolarbear]
    #13622538 - 12/12/10 05:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Always in the fall, whenever that may be my guess would be



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    #13623925 - 12/12/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

seems like you could just skip the whole PFtek and use grain spawn, right?

Also, how long does a bed usually live for? Like, will they keep fruiting for several years on their own? Can you throw on more mulch to keep the patch going?

I'm intensely fascinated with outdoor woodlover grows and hope to do some azures some day.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #13623941 - 12/12/10 09:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not certain that this is correct, but i am of the understanding - which my be wrong - that the patch needs to be re-fed more chips etc for it to digest for the patch to keep fruiting into the future. I think people said after a season is finished they dump in some new chips etc etc to let it spread more and be colonized ready in time for next season.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: 4runner] * 1
    #13624396 - 12/12/10 11:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I really want to do this!!!  Thanks Seeker!


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #13627875 - 12/13/10 06:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DosileFlynn said:
I'm not certain that this is correct, but i am of the understanding - which my be wrong - that the patch needs to be re-fed more chips etc for it to digest for the patch to keep fruiting into the future. I think people said after a season is finished they dump in some new chips etc etc to let it spread more and be colonized ready in time for next season.





This is what I've read too, as an aggressive consumer of nutrients the mycellium needs fresh food (chips) year on year to encourage further growth and improve fruitings otherwise numbers will drop off and die away eventually as nutrients are used up.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: UK Explorer]
    #13628417 - 12/13/10 08:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Threaded for the future.:peace::heart::mushroom2:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14777671 - 07/16/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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seems like you could just skip the whole PFtek and use grain spawn, right?




Sure you can!  But that requires a pressure cooker, and not all have one or are willing to buy one.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #14777711 - 07/16/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I live in the PNW and next year I am going to start my own garden :awesome:
Although, I think I can skip a few steps, because I can make a spore slurry out of wild caps, and spray woodchip beds to save time.
It's a very simple process...with unlimited yields

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Anthony]
    #14777987 - 07/16/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I live in the PNW and next year I am going to start my own garden :awesome:
Although, I think I can skip a few steps, because I can make a spore slurry out of wild caps, and spray woodchip beds to save time.
It's a very simple process...with unlimited yields

:aweoverdose:



All bullshit aside, does this work? I've always thought it should. A wild shroom don't give a fuck about mean green.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14778003 - 07/16/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Look at the seventh post in this thread, yes its mine :gameover:

I did it and provided a TEK on how to do it. It does in fact work.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #14778034 - 07/16/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I read your tek, way back when. But I recall you doing a bit more than grinding up wild caps and spraying them on wood chips  :bucktoothfattygangsta:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14778218 - 07/16/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Oh wow...The day after I joined shroomery and already a simple, easy to read tek without needing pressure cookers...probably cause I haven't really looked through the other teks yet but still. Out of the ones I've read before joining this is by far one of the simplest. Now all I need is a good DMT tek.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14781731 - 07/17/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Fungal-one said:
I read your tek, way back when. But I recall you doing a bit more than grinding up wild caps and spraying them on wood chips  :bucktoothfattygangsta:


Wiccan: I sent you an importantish PM. I'm just sayin'




I mean, think about how they spread in the wild. The spores drop from the caps, float around, until they find a place to set up shop. So, as long as you already had the proper environment and climate available outside, you would think all you have to do is mash some caps, mix with water, spray all over, profit.

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Anthony]
    #14781886 - 07/17/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That's would I would think, and do, really. It's just that with that species people always talk about how they won't actually grow outdoors unless very specific needs are met. Maybe I'm thinking of another thread, but I'm pretty sure it's this one I remember from a while back.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Anthony]
    #14781897 - 07/17/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

BUMPITY BUMP BUMP

i want this in my threads so i bump

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14781919 - 07/17/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Fungal-one said:
That's would I would think, and do, really. It's just that with that species people always talk about how they won't actually grow outdoors unless very specific needs are met. Maybe I'm thinking of another thread, but I'm pretty sure it's this one I remember from a while back.




I'm pretty sure you're thinking of another thread. They grow like crazy in the PNW. One would think the only two conditions that needed to be met would be
A- Climate
B- Environment

since you can find wild cyanescens with ease around here, you can totally skip the process of inoculating the jars/mixing with the woodchips.
My plan is to get a bunch of alder chips, spread them around my yard, spray the shit with a hundred or so mashed up caps....wait and see what happens...
I'm pretty sure it will work.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Anthony]
    #14782024 - 07/17/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:mel: Sounds like a great idea.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14782521 - 07/17/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Kewl, some life back in this thread.

I can say fo sho, this tek rocks for ANY species of woodlover peeps :awesomenod::thumbup::mushroom2:

Azures, Ovoids and Friscosas concur thus far

A basic mycelium syringe tek on cakes just before putting to chip can have you going in circles getting a few more tubs on the rasp :drooling:


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: UK Explorer]
    #14782728 - 07/17/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Fucking awesome guide!
can't wait to try this out


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    #14782813 - 07/17/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Good read buddy :smile:

Going to look into this for sure, syringes are hard to come by down here but mycelium for some of those species are easy as
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    #14783007 - 07/17/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Hajnal]
    #14784352 - 07/17/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just Favorited this.

Hopefully, I will be able to attempt this ASAP.

Btw, I live in Zone 9.

What does that mean necessarily.


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    #14793945 - 07/19/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It means temps may not drop low enough in the Fall to induce fruiting.

Perhaps more tropical species would be better suited to your surrounding habitat?


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    #14796862 - 07/20/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

One Word:  STICKY!!


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #14797132 - 07/20/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm I am in zone 5 (Toronto) However we have had cold days during the winter where it reaches -30 ish Celsius.

Would this be a problem?
Would covering the patch with straw (what you can do for veggies and stuff) work to provide protection?

Edit: I failed to read the part where you suggested putting straw on them for zone 5. My bad :P


Also if I started the jars now, would they be OK before the winter comes? I realize I doubt I will have a crop this year but next :P


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Beanhead]
    #14797463 - 07/20/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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With all the snow we've had now I guess I missed this :sad:




Stop whining you have a grow set now.

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Beanhead]
    #14797591 - 07/20/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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    #14855591 - 08/01/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Hmmm I am in zone 5 (Toronto) However we have had cold days during the winter where it reaches -30 ish Celsius.

Would this be a problem?
Would covering the patch with straw (what you can do for veggies and stuff) work to provide protection?

Edit: I failed to read the part where you suggested putting straw on them for zone 5. My bad :P


Also if I started the jars now, would they be OK before the winter comes? I realize I doubt I will have a crop this year but next :P




I would like an answer to this also.  I have been wanting to start an outdoor grow for awhile now and I don't often get motivated to start new things so why not start now while I'm thinking about it.

Main question is if we started this grow now in T.O would these be able to survive the first winter?


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: idlee]
    #14855614 - 08/01/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

BTW, as well as woodlovers would there be any edible that would grow under these conditions?  I am newly into edibles now...


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    #15891577 - 03/02/12 05:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The most common edibles that work with the technique from the first post, but also with the super easy Woodlover Smoothie TEK I mentioned later, are the Oyster mushroom and the Shiitake.


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    #16866834 - 09/18/12 03:18 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I have a nice chunk of wild mycelium and im currently trying to colonize some woodchips. This process is going quite slowly It has stretched out a bit but not far. Possibly due to using pinebark chips. Now im wondering would i get better results if i go and buy some hickory smoking chips and simmer them for an hour and letting then drain. Then throwing them all in a tub along with my "chunk" and mixing it around vigorously.

Only thing keeping me from trying this is that i have a limited access tot his mycelium and i don't want to ruin my chances for fruiting next season.

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: sfkask8]
    #16866850 - 09/18/12 03:33 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely save your mycelium from the pine bark and transplant to the hickory chips.

Pine is full of resins which inhibit mycelial growth, so the cultivation on them will likely not succeed.

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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #16866880 - 09/18/12 03:57 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Final question then. The wild habitat had these fruiting on redwood chips. Would it be better to transplant it onto more redwood chips or just go to hickory regardless?

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    #16866919 - 09/18/12 04:14 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If its any sort of Psilocybian mushroom, its gonna prefer hickory, hardwood over conifer.


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    #16866939 - 09/18/12 04:26 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, thanks for the clarification. They're subaeruginosa, so hickory it is. I'm really disappointed that i couldn't find any large bags of hardwood chips locally. They are all either pinebark or redwood chips. I can get small bags of hickory though, but it's rather expensive as it's sold for smoking uses. I guess a shopping cart full of small hickory bags will do, heh.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: sfkask8]
    #16953790 - 10/02/12 06:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Hey wiccan or whoever may know. Do you guys think the Woodlover Smothie tek could work with just a spore print on paper. I mean the mushrooms just useless mush and the paper's just more woodlover food right?

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    #18780297 - 08/31/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Now I regret moving to Hawaii...


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I can't wait until I've matured enought to grow this species. I'm very jealous, wiccan.


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    #18780817 - 08/31/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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  Yea, me too. I've got a good secure spot. Just have to get my lasy ass going...  :mushdance:  . . . :peace:


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    #18780826 - 08/31/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love it when i start reading through a thread, and get to a post down near the bottom of the first page, and i recognize my avatar, and i'm like "what the fuck"


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    #21130827 - 01/16/15 07:17 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

Kick ass post, with great info, and beautiful pics. Wow, talk about results, very nice work on the tek, and your beautiful outdoor garden. This is a couple years old, so I assume you are still doing very well :smile: I am going to start my own here in the beautiful Pacific Northwest...Thank You for this, very helpful!
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    #21132714 - 01/17/15 08:53 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

You are quite welcome. I am glad this post continues to inspire in the spreading of the Divine Mushroom.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #21132724 - 01/17/15 08:58 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Very cool!
I'm not sure how to say it, but.. I love you, Asante.
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    #21132972 - 01/17/15 10:23 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Tripping on Shrooms right now.  Your love is much appreciated :hug:


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    #21136258 - 01/17/15 11:34 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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    #21136702 - 01/18/15 04:04 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Tripping on Shrooms right now.  Your love is much appreciated :hug:




I hope you had an excellent trip!
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    #21136935 - 01/18/15 06:37 AM (9 years, 11 days ago)

I can top that Turtletotem, this evening my buddy comes over and we'll have another mushroom sesssion well into thev night, the guest bed is already made :rainbowcloud:

I need to reaffirm my relationship with psychedelics. These past years I have been all about the dissociatives and I achieve incredible results with them, I want to try brush up my psychedelics kungfu so that I get equally awesome results with them too.

At some point in the near future I want to use DMT, I got to be ready for it.


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    #21137077 - 01/18/15 07:48 AM (9 years, 11 days ago)

I've done quite a few psychedelics. What I am about to say will likely result in me being cast out of this community---I was not a huge big fan of DMT. It's like getting launched out of a psychedelic canon. No time to prepare and little time to take it all in. It's an interesting chemical, but personally, I benefit more from having hours to poke around in my mind. Also, maybe of particular note to you Asante, I found it the hardest on my heart. I always experience a huge shot of adrenaline which makes my heart feel like it is going to beat out of my chest.


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Re: Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it! [Re: Asante]
    #22670398 - 12/18/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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WHAT WAS DONE:


Species: Psilocybe cyanescens (Wavy Caps)
Activity: High (dried 12-25mg/gr)
Dimensions: 3 x 2 foot, 10 inches thick (approx 150 ltr)
Substrate: Course Beech Woodchips (pet bedding)
Purpose: Outdoor Spawn Reservoir
Status: mature bed, second flush
Location: Holland, early november



THE BED



Here's the bed. It was allowed to become mossy to see whether the patch moisture level would be positively affected and whether the moss would allow the patch to not just fruit on the sides (it's an uncased beech wood chip patch, which tend to only fruit peripherally), and with this second flush, the most abundant ever seen on this patch, a month after the first, this appears to be the case.



Wavy Caps poking right through the moss




Cream of the crop, what not to like about this picture? All aspects of the habitat show beautifully





Mycelium showing, note the wavy margins





Various growth stages, overgrowth as can be seen were stingy nettles




Tight cluster near the wall at the patch's edge





Note the prominent umbo's on the caps!





Harvesting just the biggest ones of the patch yielded 80 grams fresh; ~4gr fresh on average. Note the blueing already on the stems and the spore-bearing lamellae.




Given the number of shrooms still on the patch, this one flush will definitely yield about a dried ounce if it can ripen before the frost. The first flush, in early october, yielded about 8 dried grams.

Now, a bit later, the 1 dried ounce barrier was broken.

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HOW TO DO IT:

--You go to the webshops of some Shroomery Sponsors and buy a Psilocybe cyanescens spore syringe, some vermiculite and some brown rice flour. If they are out of Psilocybe cyanescens syringes you can opt for Psilocybe azurescens, Psilocybe subaeruginosa, Psilocybe bohemica, Psilocybe arcana, Psilocybe serbica or Psilocybe moravica for similar results.

--You get a bunch of 1/2 pint jars (like ~250ml veggie jars from the supermarket) and with a nail you punch a hole in the center of the lids.

--of every 4 jars, you fill 2 with vermiculite, 1 with brown rice flour and 1 with water, then mix this to a loose "dough" and you loosely fill the jars with it, leaving about an inch free at the tops of the jars. Clean the inner rims, then cover with half an inch of straight, dry vermiculite and lay on the lids, don't screw them on. Cover the lids with a layer of tin foil.

--take a cooking pot, put a dishwashing cloth in and pour in 2 inches of water, then put the jars on top of that, on the stove and cover with a lid. Bring to a boil, then boil for 1 hour. Turn off the gas and let it cool down to room temperature overnight, leaving the lid of the pot on.

--the next day, take the jars out of the cooking pot and put them on the table. Shake the spore syringe well, then de-cap it, heat the needle with a disposable lighter till it sputters and drive it though the tin foil, through the hole, through the covering layer of vermiculite in your substrate. Wait 15 seconds then inject a bit of spore solution. Pull the needle out slowly and cover the tin foil with another layer of fresh tin foil. Repeat with all the jars. A syringe is generally 10cc. You should in theory be able to do 5 x 4 jars with it, but in practice 3x4 jars is more than ample. Put the jars in a closet at room temperature. You want to avoid drafts and excessive light. Do not handle the jars at all, if you can.

--After about 3-9 weeks, the jars will be completely covered in white mycelium, which basically looks as if they are stuffed with pure white cotton. Discard all jars that show strange colors immediately, by throwing them away whole and unopened. Now a joyous time begins: You have finished Sterile Technique and won't EVER have to work that carefully again.

--go to a petstore and get hardwood woodchips used for animal bedding. Do not use the ubiquitous yellowish compressed blocks of wood fiber, these are almost invariably softwoods (like pine) which are too resinous to support growth. What you want is the big loose bags of untreated wood chips. Good kinds are beech, oak, birch, chestnut, alder, maple, cottonwood, willow, aspen, poplar, elm , sweet gum and sycamore wood chips. Chips used in smoking (fish or meat) are usually perfect.

--How many jars have made it?  Multiply this number by 10-20 and scoop that many jars of dry chips into a large container, and cover it with water, and leave it to soak up water for 24 hours, then let the water leach out for at least 1 hour.
Lets for simplicity's sake say 1 jar made it, and that you are preparing 10 jars of wood chips (2.5 liters) for it.

--open the jar(s) with mycelium and scratch the contents out with a fork in a bowl. Use the fork to crumble the mycelial mass as finely as you can. Then, add it to the 10fold excess of leached wood chips and mix it really well. Put it into a plastic storage box to a depth of about 4-10 inches and cover it with a trashbag, which you secure in place with a few clothespins so that iot is covered but the mycelium can breathe. Keep this at room temperature for several weeks to months, until it has grown shut. If its needed, but chances are it won't, mist the mycelium occasionally with a plant mister. When the chips are colonized a joyous time begins, because at this point it becomes very hard to screw the grow up anymore!

--If you don't have a garden and don't want to guerilla farm, you can put these boxes outside in autumn when temperatures range to 50'F to a little above freezing, the fully colonized chips covered with half an inch of potting soil. At these temperatures the mushrooms will fruit directly on top of the substrate, even if you don't use the soil layer.

--Outdoor cultivation of the wood lovers is possible in the plant hardiness zones 6, 7 and 8.
The range can likely be extended also to zone 5, but the beds will need to be protected by applying a layer of fresh wood chips or a thicker layer of straw to survive the low temperatures in winter. You can check what USDA Hardiness zone you live in. If you grow in boxes and only take them outdoors during a few months of temperatures from 50'F to a little above freezing, colder zones are possible.

--If you do have a garden or want to take it to the forest, prepare wood chips by soaking and leaching as described before. Again, you use 10-20 times the volume. One jar led to 10 jars in the plastic box and thus will need 100 jars (25 liters = 6.5 gallons) of wood chips.

--In the ground, dig small tenches or holes about 4-10 inches deep. If you want to maximize your initial harvests, make trenches 4 inches deep and wide and as long as you want, side by side, spaced 4 inches apart. If you want maximum spawn per surface area, make it a few big shallow holes 10 inches deep. Use the moistest parts of your garden or forest, and especially under bushes etc where theres little wind and light. You guessed it: the very parts of your garden useless for gardening!

--break up the spawn, the fully grown woodchips from the box, as finely as possible and mix them very well with the excess of leached wood chips, then dump it into the trenches or holes. The chips level should be about even with the ground. At this point you can use your bare hands or a spade to do the mixing and handling. Alternatively you can simply cover the ground under the bushes with a 4 inch thick layer of chips and be rid of it. Its good to make several locations where you dump the spawn to always have a backup in case weed mushrooms take over a grow. This can be in the same garden, but I urge you to go evangelical and offer to mulch the gardens of tripping friends, make patches into the wild etc.

--if you did all this in spring, in late autumn you might already see your first harvest. If it does or doesnt, next season there will be a harvest. Water the patchers if really needed in summer, but dont overwater them. Shrooms are akin to the creature from the horror movie "The Thing": every single part of the organism, no matter how tiny, can be introduced to fresh wood chips and grow out to replicate the whole organism. The patch can dry out a bit, and revitalize after rain. It can take frosts of -25'C/0'F if it has to. At this point a really joyous time begins because not only will you be harvesting one of the worlds strongest mushrooms each year with minimal effort, but your grow has become virtually indestructible.

--in the years to come, after the patches showed their first or a few seasons of mushrooms, you can break up the patches and use them as spawn to make more patches. One mushroom patch can be expanded to ten mushroom patches. Ten to 100. You end up mulching gardens of nontripping family members because they see the benefits to their garden and see the mushrooms as a really cute addition to their garden in late fall. You can go to the forest with bags of spawn and mix it with decaying wood, here, there, everywhere!


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IS IT WORTH IT?

<img src=https://files.shroomery.org/files/10-45/930870215-PsCyan091110_2.jpg>

You be the judge. What I described, if taken step by step, is REALLY easy to do. It doesnt require expensive equipment or unobtainable supplies. It has a high success rate.

Wavy caps like in the picture have a potency of 12-25mg psiloc(yb)in per dried gram, making them 2-4x more potent than the common cubie thats being sold. They are easily identified and turn blue on bruising like nobodies business. The high, compared to cubies, seems to be clearer, higher energy, and more euphoric than that of cubies. If you dry them and store them in a jar in a dark closet they are still strong a year later. In the freezer, they stay potent for a decade or more.

Once the ball is rolling your growing of one of the strongest shrooms in the world becomes as sophisticated as the most basic gardening, and you in essence invest big bags of woodchips to get big bags of powerful shrooms. You will no longer be dependent on what a shady dealer might offer, but instead you have 100% organic shrooms in abundance, more than you can eat, and with your spawn you have the possibility to make your tripping friends independent too.

So you tell me, is it worth it?




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    #23229152 - 05/15/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

CALLING ALL UK PEOPLE:

This can be YOUR garden too, after the Everything Ban kicks in. Grow your own, become independent from outside supplies.

Shrooms
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    #23229197 - 05/15/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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CALLING ALL UK PEOPLE:

This can be YOUR garden too, after the Everything Ban kicks in. Grow your own, become independent from outside supplies.

Shrooms
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    #23229466 - 05/15/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Here in Texas, my buddy has a 50 acre cattle ranch. He had a few cubes growing on his property about 8 years ago, when he first got interested in shrooms, but hardly any. After a heavy rain, he'd be able to pick maybe 1/2 ounce dry. So he collected some spores, made some syringes, and colonized some jars. He took the colonized jars and buried them under cowpatties and hay throughout his field.

Every year, the patch has grown and spread. Now, 8 years later, after a heavy rain, it's easy to pull up half a pound dry. And that happens about 10 times per season.

He tried starting a cyan patch on the property but they just haven't taken off. They seem to do better further inland.


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    #23229568 - 05/15/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not too familiar wth Texan climate but I think its much too hot there for Cyans, they need weeks of near freezing temperatures to do their thing


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    #24194996 - 03/26/17 03:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

You're a credit to travelers everywhere, seeker-- thank you again-- this post deserves prominent attention-- 6 years later-- is it still giving you presents each season?


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    #25416299 - 08/27/18 07:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking of colonizing a larger substrate of wavy caps then casing and burying very shallow underground.

I live in a hardness zone of 8 near the coast of Washington, im on 28 acres in a heavy wooded area, mostly hard woods, some cedar though to. I'll post some pics of the few options I've been thinking for doing this.

I'm wondering if I'll get any fruits this winter? Usually they grow in this area right before the frost and sometimes through the winter depending on how bad the winter was. Last year it was very mild.


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    #25422624 - 08/29/18 08:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Love the mosses right there!

I have something similar going but in a fish tank rather than an outdoor bed.

Here's a small cluster of subs fruiting right now:



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    #27024693 - 11/06/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Guys I'm going to show you what was done, and then tell you how to do it!

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WHAT WAS DONE:


Species: Psilocybe cyanescens (Wavy Caps)
Activity: High (dried 12-25mg/gr)
Dimensions: 3 x 2 foot, 10 inches thick (approx 150 ltr)
Substrate: Course Beech Woodchips (pet bedding)
Purpose: Outdoor Spawn Reservoir
Status: mature bed, second flush
Location: Holland, early november



THE BED



Here's the bed. It was allowed to become mossy to see whether the patch moisture level would be positively affected and whether the moss would allow the patch to not just fruit on the sides (it's an uncased beech wood chip patch, which tend to only fruit peripherally), and with this second flush, the most abundant ever seen on this patch, a month after the first, this appears to be the case.



Wavy Caps poking right through the moss





Cream of the crop, what not to like about this picture? All aspects of the habitat show beautifully





Mycelium showing, note the wavy margins





Various growth stages, overgrowth as can be seen were stingy nettles




Tight cluster near the wall at the patch's edge





Note the prominent umbo's on the caps!





Harvesting just the biggest ones of the patch yielded 80 grams fresh; ~4gr fresh on average. Note the blueing already on the stems and the spore-bearing lamellae.




Given the number of shrooms still on the patch, this one flush will definitely yield about a dried ounce if it can ripen before the frost. The first flush, in early october, yielded about 8 dried grams.

Now, a bit later, the 1 dried ounce barrier was broken.

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HOW TO DO IT:

--You go to the webshops of some Shroomery Sponsors and buy a Psilocybe cyanescens spore syringe, some vermiculite and some brown rice flour. If they are out of Psilocybe cyanescens syringes you can opt for Psilocybe azurescens, Psilocybe subaeruginosa, Psilocybe bohemica, Psilocybe arcana, Psilocybe serbica or Psilocybe moravica for similar results.

--You get a bunch of 1/2 pint jars (like ~250ml veggie jars from the supermarket) and with a nail you punch a hole in the center of the lids.

--of every 4 jars, you fill 2 with vermiculite, 1 with brown rice flour and 1 with water, then mix this to a loose "dough" and you loosely fill the jars with it, leaving about an inch free at the tops of the jars. Clean the inner rims, then cover with half an inch of straight, dry vermiculite and lay on the lids, don't screw them on. Cover the lids with a layer of tin foil.

--take a cooking pot, put a dishwashing cloth in and pour in 2 inches of water, then put the jars on top of that, on the stove and cover with a lid. Bring to a boil, then boil for 1 hour. Turn off the gas and let it cool down to room temperature overnight, leaving the lid of the pot on.

--the next day, take the jars out of the cooking pot and put them on the table. Shake the spore syringe well, then de-cap it, heat the needle with a disposable lighter till it sputters and drive it though the tin foil, through the hole, through the covering layer of vermiculite in your substrate. Wait 15 seconds then inject a bit of spore solution. Pull the needle out slowly and cover the tin foil with another layer of fresh tin foil. Repeat with all the jars. A syringe is generally 10cc. You should in theory be able to do 5 x 4 jars with it, but in practice 3x4 jars is more than ample. Put the jars in a closet at room temperature. You want to avoid drafts and excessive light. Do not handle the jars at all, if you can.

--After about 3-9 weeks, the jars will be completely covered in white mycelium, which basically looks as if they are stuffed with pure white cotton. Discard all jars that show strange colors immediately, by throwing them away whole and unopened. Now a joyous time begins: You have finished Sterile Technique and won't EVER have to work that carefully again.

--go to a petstore and get hardwood woodchips used for animal bedding. Do not use the ubiquitous yellowish compressed blocks of wood fiber, these are almost invariably softwoods (like pine) which are too resinous to support growth. What you want is the big loose bags of untreated wood chips. Good kinds are beech, oak, birch, chestnut, alder, maple, cottonwood, willow, aspen, poplar, elm , sweet gum and sycamore wood chips. Chips used in smoking (fish or meat) are usually perfect.

--How many jars have made it?  Multiply this number by 10-20 and scoop that many jars of dry chips into a large container, and cover it with water, and leave it to soak up water for 24 hours, then let the water leach out for at least 1 hour.
Lets for simplicity's sake say 1 jar made it, and that you are preparing 10 jars of wood chips (2.5 liters) for it.

--open the jar(s) with mycelium and scratch the contents out with a fork in a bowl. Use the fork to crumble the mycelial mass as finely as you can. Then, add it to the 10fold excess of leached wood chips and mix it really well. Put it into a plastic storage box to a depth of about 4-10 inches and cover it with a trashbag, which you secure in place with a few clothespins so that iot is covered but the mycelium can breathe. Keep this at room temperature for several weeks to months, until it has grown shut. If its needed, but chances are it won't, mist the mycelium occasionally with a plant mister. When the chips are colonized a joyous time begins, because at this point it becomes very hard to screw the grow up anymore!

--If you don't have a garden and don't want to guerilla farm, you can put these boxes outside in autumn when temperatures range to 50'F to a little above freezing, the fully colonized chips covered with half an inch of potting soil. At these temperatures the mushrooms will fruit directly on top of the substrate, even if you don't use the soil layer.

--Outdoor cultivation of the wood lovers is possible in the plant hardiness zones 6, 7 and 8.
The range can likely be extended also to zone 5, but the beds will need to be protected by applying a layer of fresh wood chips or a thicker layer of straw to survive the low temperatures in winter. You can check what USDA Hardiness zone you live in. If you grow in boxes and only take them outdoors during a few months of temperatures from 50'F to a little above freezing, colder zones are possible.

--If you do have a garden or want to take it to the forest, prepare wood chips by soaking and leaching as described before. Again, you use 10-20 times the volume. One jar led to 10 jars in the plastic box and thus will need 100 jars (25 liters = 6.5 gallons) of wood chips.

--In the ground, dig small tenches or holes about 4-10 inches deep. If you want to maximize your initial harvests, make trenches 4 inches deep and wide and as long as you want, side by side, spaced 4 inches apart. If you want maximum spawn per surface area, make it a few big shallow holes 10 inches deep. Use the moistest parts of your garden or forest, and especially under bushes etc where theres little wind and light. You guessed it: the very parts of your garden useless for gardening!

--break up the spawn, the fully grown woodchips from the box, as finely as possible and mix them very well with the excess of leached wood chips, then dump it into the trenches or holes. The chips level should be about even with the ground. At this point you can use your bare hands or a spade to do the mixing and handling. Alternatively you can simply cover the ground under the bushes with a 4 inch thick layer of chips and be rid of it. Its good to make several locations where you dump the spawn to always have a backup in case weed mushrooms take over a grow. This can be in the same garden, but I urge you to go evangelical and offer to mulch the gardens of tripping friends, make patches into the wild etc.

--if you did all this in spring, in late autumn you might already see your first harvest. If it does or doesnt, next season there will be a harvest. Water the patchers if really needed in summer, but dont overwater them. Shrooms are akin to the creature from the horror movie "The Thing": every single part of the organism, no matter how tiny, can be introduced to fresh wood chips and grow out to replicate the whole organism. The patch can dry out a bit, and revitalize after rain. It can take frosts of -25'C/0'F if it has to. At this point a really joyous time begins because not only will you be harvesting one of the worlds strongest mushrooms each year with minimal effort, but your grow has become virtually indestructible.

--in the years to come, after the patches showed their first or a few seasons of mushrooms, you can break up the patches and use them as spawn to make more patches. One mushroom patch can be expanded to ten mushroom patches. Ten to 100. You end up mulching gardens of nontripping family members because they see the benefits to their garden and see the mushrooms as a really cute addition to their garden in late fall. You can go to the forest with bags of spawn and mix it with decaying wood, here, there, everywhere!


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IS IT WORTH IT?



You be the judge. What I described, if taken step by step, is REALLY easy to do. It doesnt require expensive equipment or unobtainable supplies. It has a high success rate.

Wavy caps like in the picture have a potency of 12-25mg psiloc(yb)in per dried gram, making them 2-4x more potent than the common cubie thats being sold. They are easily identified and turn blue on bruising like nobodies business. The high, compared to cubies, seems to be clearer, higher energy, and more euphoric than that of cubies. If you dry them and store them in a jar in a dark closet they are still strong a year later. In the freezer, they stay potent for a decade or more.

Once the ball is rolling your growing of one of the strongest shrooms in the world becomes as sophisticated as the most basic gardening, and you in essence invest big bags of woodchips to get big bags of powerful shrooms. You will no longer be dependent on what a shady dealer might offer, but instead you have 100% organic shrooms in abundance, more than you can eat, and with your spawn you have the possibility to make your tripping friends independent too.

So you tell me, is it worth it?





Now, ten years after that post, I have been adding beech wood chips every 2-3 years, simply topping it off, and the Wavy Caps became endemic to the small bed.

I planted a small Sakura Tree in the middle of the bed.

This was the right move, it turned out, it resulted in the biggest crop ever.

In 2020, 10 years after the former post was made, and just having topped up the bed with more woodchips, a whopping 680 wet grams, 1.5lbs wet wavy caps, were harvested off the patch.

I was afraid that the Sakura would suck the patch dry but no, none of that at all, the mushrooms love the tree and the tree thrives.

This is what you get if you get into woodlovers: you do the sterile work once and then you mulch, and you mulch, and you mulch, and your woodlovers will keep on growing and yielding if you have a good strong species like Psilocybe cyanescens.

These are 2-3x as strong as cubensis, in the dry state typically they contain 12-18mg Psilocybin.

The harvest is huge for this wild patch, about 3x of an average year.

Last year I was an asshole about how I handled the bed. I had pain in my back and resentment in my heart so I poured a bag of beech wood chips in the indentation in the bed, I threw two buckets of water over it and went inside :crankey:


BUT NOW LOOK! BIGGEST HARVEST EVER!!









680 grams, 1.5lbs of fresh super strong Wavy Caps after chucking a bag of dry wood chips and two buckets of water onto a bed that was established about 12 years earlier. :rotfl:

I ask you again...


...is it worth it?


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    #27024771 - 11/06/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27041036 - 11/15/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is really inspirational Asante-- Ive been thinking about building a box for our balcony, and the reminder/update of this thread might just be the push to get it started

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    #27041055 - 11/15/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Its really great to have Wavy Caps endemic to a spot near you.

Every fall, when it gets cold and wet and dark, you know what lies 8in store around Halloween.

If yo0u make wooden boxes of untreated wood the mycelium will get in the boxes themselves too and will colonize any wood you throw in it :laugh:


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To update, I've got my Ps. Cyan growing out on agar right now :smile:
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I live in Zone 6 so by November things get pretty chilly. If I start now and have wood chip spawn ready by September, would it be too late to make an outdoor bed?  If so, is it too early to start making spawn for spring 2022? At most, my colonized wood chip spawn would have to go from September to April in the fridge. Would it still be viable after that long? If it matters, I'm planning to do the tek with P. azurescens.


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    #27527296 - 11/02/21 09:24 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I may have quit shrooms, but shrooms haven't quit me!

13 years after I first posted about my little wavy caps patch, it continues to fruit.

Its perennial. I mulch, they fruit, and this for 13 years now, and I think 15 years in total.

Aren't they lovely?






For roughly 1/3 of my life they are with me.

Sakura in spring, Wavy Caps in autumn.

How beautiful the transitional seasons!


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    #27527306 - 11/02/21 09:30 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

YAY!


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    #27529036 - 11/03/21 04:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

The fruits below are growing on a 15 year old perennial wavy caps patch. Every 2-3 years beech wood chips go on top, and they keep on fruiting!


You're supposed to make a shallow bed of chips, I made one, way deeper than the 4 inches it fruits off. If you have woodlover mycelium at depths it can't fruit, its going to try get to the surface. So it sends mycelium everywhere, even through the soil, trying to find dead wood to fruit on.

So, you get a reservoir of mycelium it always grows back from.

I guess thats the secret to perennial patches of woodlovers, making 8-10inch deep beds they keep growing back from. Also, very frost resistant!
If it consumes chips, the thickness decreases, you top it up with chips and it wolfs its way through it to fruit on top.


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