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CycleThoughts
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Humility]
#13472688 - 11/12/10 09:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Humility said: Fear over love.
Defending yourself is important, bloodlust is something entirely different
I'm done with this thread, it's clear how I feel and also clear how others think.
Have fun murdering people unnecessarily. Then when you die, or you trip, or you get old you can ponder on how your actions affected the totality of the world and how what you did helped make the world what it is.
You want to continue to foster a world where your kids get in scuffles and one kid shoots another because he's afraid of dying? This is bullshit guys, every altercation doesn't have to end in a death, and talking that shit about "OMGZ HE CUDDA HAD A GUN!" is fearmongering, murder-justifying bullshit.
He ran the fucking guy down over 20 feet, as quickly as he did that he could have turned around and run the fuck away. It's simple man.
Have fun living your lives in fear and distrust, pondering murdering people around any and every corner.
Fear over love? If you're ever in that position, you can love the guy with the gun threatening you and then you won't have to ponder killing him, because he'll have already killed you.
As for "how your actions affected the totality of the world". You probably made it a BETTER place by killing that piece of shit. I know I've never pulled a gun on anyone, or even brought it outside of my home other than to the gun range.
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Asante
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Well you only know it when on the spot, but given the variables its pretty likely I'd draw and open up immediately with a lot of bullets and at point blank range given my fast drawing/shooting experience with CO2 and Airsoft most will be near where I should be.
I probably wouldn't freeze. Theres enough advance warning and I've been attacked several times in my life and in all cases but one (being clocked in the face by someone in a bar I wasn't in a confrontation with or even facing) I reacted promptly and adequately without even thinking.
A firearm is not an airgun or airsoft but I can fast draw and shoot accurately, certainly at point blank range - looking at the target, not the sights - and fired a few thousand shots like that, static and dynamic. Its not the same but it does hone the skill of hitting stuff at the drop of a hat.
If I carried a firearm I'd have ample previous experience with that one too or I wouldnt be carrying it.
I live in Holland though not the US, you are much more likely to be faced by bare knuckles, an anemic blade or a screwdriver here than anyone with a gun, at least in my neck of the woods.
I wouldnt be carrying a gun and neither would he.
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Edited by Asante (11/12/10 09:36 AM)
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Asante]
#13473704 - 11/12/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"You do realize its illegal to
a. threaten police b. run away from police c. attack police d. pull a gun on the police
if you do anything of the above, expect your chances of living to significantly drop. The man did all 4. Are you serious?"
if im not mistaken,. the cop was OFF duty, and in civi clothing,. and id bet probably did not tell the attacker he was a cop,.. and even if he did,. i doubt it would of affected the out come of the attacker,..
but as somone said about he will get off cause hes a cop,.. in my book,. your a cop, when your ON duty,. and arent shit when you OFF,. just another civi,. and should be treated as such,. with no special rights,
""Defending yourself is important, bloodlust is something entirely different""
yes they are,. and i know for a fact,. because ive experienced them both first hand before,. and in my book, i would say unless the cop is the one that started the whole situation,. its self defense,. and not a case of bloodlust,.. that is unless this has happened a few times in the past,.
if we where to get into a fight,. be it with fist/knives/guns,. nomatter if your my friend or not,.
im going to do my best to seriously hurt you, and do it as fast as i can,. otherwise im the one that will get hurt/killed,.. when it comes to this point,. your not there to be the persons "friend" your there to do what you have to to protect yourself. even if its done by killing,
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Disgruntled]
#13473712 - 11/12/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"fuck you for toying with my one and only life"
100% behind that
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Chubba
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Disgruntled]
#13475735 - 11/12/10 08:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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but as somone said about he will get off cause hes a cop,.. in my book,. your a cop, when your ON duty,. and arent shit when you OFF,. just another civi,. and should be treated as such,. with no special rights,
I don't know about the USA but in Australia all police officers retain full powers off-duty, all that is required is a verbal statement (eg. "I am a police officer").
It's a very fair law because the penalties for impersonating an officer are very serious.
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Chubba]
#13476051 - 11/12/10 09:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah,. but at the same time its bull shit,.. if someone is going to hurt you or has ill intentions already,.. you think they give a shit about getting in trouble for impersonating a law officer? like if you truested them youd be fucked,. thats why i think its shit,..
and i dont mean it in a mean way towards you by anymeans,.. just think its a stupid law,..
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Re: Self defense or not? (VIDEO) [Re: Chubba]
#13476405 - 11/12/10 11:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Chubba said:
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but as somone said about he will get off cause hes a cop,.. in my book,. your a cop, when your ON duty,. and arent shit when you OFF,. just another civi,. and should be treated as such,. with no special rights,
I don't know about the USA but in Australia all police officers retain full powers off-duty, all that is required is a verbal statement (eg. "I am a police officer").
It's a very fair law because the penalties for impersonating an officer are very serious.
Good for them, I would rather have officers of the law who keeps their mouths shut that when push comes to shove they smack 3 bullets into a criminal so that I don't have to pay for their "rehabilitation."
Now, this is all relative depending on whether this cat has a weapon or not.
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