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Drugs with Microchips?
    #13468223 - 11/11/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.healthdatamanagement.com/news/medication-microchips-therapy-adherence-novartis-41328-1.html

Drugs with Microchips?
November 10, 2010

Swiss-based drug manufacturing firm Novartis AG is developing a drug tablet with an embedded microchip to promote greater compliance with drug regimens, Reuters News Service reports.

The chip is activated by stomach acid and sends a message to a small patch worn on the skin, which then transmits data via a smart phone or other Internet connection to a physician. In essence, the chip confirms to the physician that the patient took the medication at the right time and in the right dose.

The drug firm initially will focus on improving adherence rates with organ transplant patients, and expects to seek regulatory approval within 18 months. For the full Reuters story, click here;
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A754720101108

here it is;
(Reuters) - Novartis AG plans to seek regulatory approval within 18 months for a pioneering tablet containing an embedded microchip, bringing the concept of "smart-pill" technology a step closer.

The initial program will use one of the Swiss firm's established drugs taken by transplant patients to avoid organ rejection. But Trevor Mundel, global head of development, believes the concept can be applied to many other pills.

"We are taking forward this transplant drug with a chip and we hope within the next 18 months to have something that we will be able to submit to the regulators, at least in Europe," Mundel told the Reuters Health Summit in New York.

"I see the promise as going much beyond that," he added.

Novartis agreed in January to spend $24 million to secure access to chip-in-a-pill technology developed by privately owned Proteus Biomedical of Redwood City, California, putting it ahead of rivals.

The biotech start-up's ingestible chips are activated by stomach acid and send information to a small patch worn on the patient's skin, which can transmit data to a smartphone or send it over the Internet to a doctor.

Mundel said the initial project was focused on ensuring that patients took drugs at the right time and got the dose they needed -- a key issue for people after kidney and other transplant operations, when treatment frequently needs adjustment.

Longer-term, he hopes to expand the "smart pill" concept to other types of medicine and use the wealth of biometric information the Proteus chip can collect, from heart rate and temperature to body movement, to check that drugs are working properly.

Because the tiny chips are added to existing drugs, Novartis does not expect to have to conduct full-scale clinical trials to prove the new products work. Instead, it aims to do so-called bioequivalence tests to show they are the same as the original.

A bigger issue may be what checks should be put in place to protect patients' personal medical data as it is transmitted from inside their bodies by wireless and Bluetooth.

"The regulators all like the concept and have been very encouraging. But ... they want to understand how we are going to solve the data privacy issues," Mundel said.

A technology that ensures a patient takes his or her medicine and checks that it is working properly should deliver better outcomes and justify a higher price tag.

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #13468286 - 11/11/10 11:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You have got to be fucking kidding me. . .

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #13468295 - 11/11/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

fuck micro chip drugs they dont need to when i take my meds!

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: slewed] * 1
    #13468305 - 11/11/10 11:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

GET ON THE FUCKING GROUND, SIR! I JUST GOT A TWEET ON MY IPHONE THAT YOU HIT A JOINT!

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: SirNoseDvoidoFungi]
    #13468317 - 11/11/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I kind of like making sure organ recipients are watched to take their medicine properly. I wouldn't want to die and donate my organs to some carefree person who thinks they will be fine missing a few times of taking medicine and ends up wasting my organ. :crankey:

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #13468333 - 11/11/10 11:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It would be understandable if this technology were used for applications like organ transplant meds, but it's only a matter of time before they would start implementing this shit in other medication.  No thanks.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: SirNoseDvoidoFungi]
    #13468365 - 11/11/10 11:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck big pharma and their lobby. First they mimic a drug found in a plant, then they pass a few well filled suitcases to some politicians and they pass a law that makes the plant illegal. Then big pharma sells you the drug for a ridiculous profit. And now this bullshit.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #13468572 - 11/11/10 12:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sunavabitch. damned control freaks.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: jackdaniels]
    #13468588 - 11/11/10 12:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

and....can you imagine how much this would drive up the cost of the meds that contain these "chips"?

also, what happens to the chips after you shit them out? i'm pretty sure they won't be biodegradable.
what a fucked up world we live in.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: SuperD]
    #13468668 - 11/11/10 12:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

SuperD said:
It would be understandable if this technology were used for applications like organ transplant meds, but it's only a matter of time before they would start implementing this shit in other medication.  No thanks.




Not only that it mentioned stuff about body movement and position. Scary! If they decide to through in GPS, you know in case the person is in danger, then big brother really will be with us at all times.

If anyone gives you one of these pills Id recommend chewing in in hopes of destroying the chip before it get in your gut.

Edited by dressel11 (11/11/10 12:58 PM)

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13468874 - 11/11/10 01:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

this makes me wanna puke :puke: i can see the benifits when i comes to old people or the forgetful type but no doubt this will be implimented on all scripts, after all something that elaborate wont come cheap


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: auronlives69]
    #13469085 - 11/11/10 02:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

one step closer to running humans completely.  big brother strikes again.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: woodruss67]
    #13469199 - 11/11/10 02:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This is not for illegal drugs, but just to make sure people comply with their medication regimens. You have non-compliance to thank for introducing the MRSA into the world.

People forget to take their meds (or if they have taken their meds and think they forgot, they might double-dose) and this is what this product is for - to help people use their meds safely and appropriately.

The danger is if people can intercept the chip technology and thus invade people's privacy by knowing which drugs they are on.

This article isn't implying that the feds will know if you smoke a joint because of a microchip in some weed.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: Green_T]
    #13469768 - 11/11/10 04:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

understood,in that case maybe there will be less od's.


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: woodruss67]
    #13470115 - 11/11/10 06:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pre-emptive STFU to anyone even remotely defending this.

Putting microchips in people is a bad, bad idea. Period.

Trust me.

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: SirNoseDvoidoFungi]
    #13470544 - 11/11/10 07:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This is only going to promote illegally made prescription drugs and drug sales. :highfive:


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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #13470590 - 11/11/10 07:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"Hmm, I wonder what so and so is up to today"  *bloop*

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13470615 - 11/11/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Uhmm can't you just not wear the patch. Therefore not sending data to a phone or other connection.

I am sure they can't make me wear a patch when I need the medicine. No patch no antibiotics, yeah right.

It could be good for people that can't do stuff for themselves and rely on staff to wipe, bath, feed, and medicate them. :shrug:

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: 4runner]
    #13471032 - 11/11/10 08:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i dont want chips in my body...

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Re: Drugs with Microchips? [Re: littleton]
    #13471873 - 11/12/10 12:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

im not afraid...:ifyoucanawe:... i see what they did there


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