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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: gir] * 2
    #1348437 - 03/03/03 06:17 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Not to rag on someone but giving your drugs to pets is sick and disgusting. Yo should be ashamed of yourself. Hitler and the US Army did this to unsuspecting innocent peoples. They jumped out windows. Maybe you need someone to dose you out.

AS for spiders, spiders who were injected with extracts of shrooms build better webs than those who did LSD and/or mexcalkine.

Here are a few references to that research,.

And otehr animal research woth psilocine/psilocybine//

Adey, W. Ross., Bell, Frederick R., and Barbara J. Dennis. 1962. Effects of LSD-25, psilocybin and psilocin on temporal lobe EEG patterns and learned behavior in the cat. Neurology vol. 12:591-602.
Effects of LSD and psilocybin in 18 cats show certain characteristic changes displaying the brevity of their actions after electrodes are chronically implanted in the amygdala, parts of the hippocampus and entorhinal cortex, and others with a loss of normal responses reported.


Bazant?, Gabrielle. 1965. Un probl?me ?claircir. Revue de Mycologia vol. 30:116.
A male spider produces a different net structure after being fed psilocybin. For related research see Witt(1960a, 1960b). In French.


Christiansen, Arnold. 1962. Changes in spider webs brought about by mescaline, psilocybin and an increase in body weight. Journal of Pharmacology vol. 136:31-37.
Several photographs of various spider-webs are presented while the spiders were under the influence of various hallucinogenic drugs. For related information see Witt, (1960a, 1960b).

DaFonseca, J. S., Fialho, M. L. and M. T. Gill. 1965a. Evoked potential and visual information processing under the action of psilocybin in the cat. Neuro-Psychopharmacology:309-315. Elsevier. Amsterdam.


Gilmore, L P. and R. D. O'Brien. 1967. Psilocybin with a fraction of a rat brain. Science vol. 155:207-208. January.
Psilocybin, an hallucinogen, forms a blue color with a subfraction of rat-brain mitochondria believed to contain nerve-ending particles is studied.


Hopf, A. and H. Eckert. 1969. Autidiographic studies on the distribution of psychoactive drugs in the rat brain 111-14 c-psilocin. Psychopharmacologia vol. 16:201-222.
The distribution of 14C psilocin was studied in 74 regions of the rat brain using autoradiograms of sagittal serial sections 1, 30 and 60 min, 2, 4, 8 and 24 hours after intravenous injections.


Horita, A. and L. J. Weber. 1962. Dephosphorylation of psilocybin in the intact mouse. Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology vol. 4:730-737.


Kalberer, F., Kreis, W., and J. Rutschmann. 1962. The fate of psilocin in the rat. Biochem. Pharmacology vol.11:261-269.
The synthesis of 14C-psilocin labelled in two different positions is described. The resorption, distribution, excretion and metabolism of psilocin in the rat was studied quantitatively with the labelled compounds.

Steiner, J. E. and F. G. Sulman. 1963. Simultaneous studies of blood sugar-behavioral changes and EEG on the Wake rabbit after administration of psilocybin. Arch. Int. Pharmacodyn. et Therapie vol. 145:301-308. October 1.
An investigation of the blood sugar level, behavioural and corticografic changes after the administration on 12 wake rabbits (both male and female).

Witt, Peter. 1960a. `Tangled web' helps drug testing. Medical News vol. 6(16):2.
A scientific report on the administration of psilocybin to a spider and the spiders web-building abilities while under the influence of psilocybin. For related information see Witt (1960b and Bazant? (1965).

------. 1960b. A biological test method for psychotropic drugs based on the web-building behavior of spiders. National Medicinal Chemical Symposium. 7Th session. Rhode Island. June 20-22. Ms.
For related data see Bazant? (1965).


Anyway those are a few of the original animal experimentations with shrooms. The actual furst chemical study of these musrhooms was Michael Levines 1917 paper on his attempts top find active ingredients in panaeolus venonosus (syn=Panaeolus subbalteatus). He used many different animals with mushroom extracts in differnent administraitions of intravenous feedings.

Levine, Michael. 1917. The psychological properties of two species of poisonous fungi. Mem Torrey Botanical Club vol. 17:176-201. October.
Describes several chemical induced techniques used on animals in mans first attempt to investigate the unusual effects attributed to the consumption of fungi causing a cerebral mycetismus in humans (Panaeolus venonosus (syn.=Panaeolus subbalteatus). These laboratory tests came about after the author had read of several intoxications caused by the accidental ingestion of certain species of Panaeolus mushrooms.


And one of the stragest uses of psilocybian shrooms, a doctor who gave shrooms to man with homosexual tendencies who became straighrt after eating shroms in a controlled enviomental setting.

Stein, Sam I. 1959a. Clinical observations on the effects of Panaeolus venenosus versus Psilocybe caerulescens. Mycologia vol. 51(1):49-50. January-February.
This is the first published report on the clinical results involving psilocybian therapy. Two species of psilocybian fungi were administered to a patient as an aid to help rid himself of homosexual tendencies. Results were positive. The mushrooms involved are mentioned in the title of paper.

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Now you can all go to a University library and look up these interesting papers.


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1348452 - 03/03/03 06:25 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

And to round out that last post with this one.



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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: DoseR]
    #1351945 - 03/05/03 06:52 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Very good post DoseR,

have a shroomy day.

I haven't seen the articles in years to be able to tellyou what kind of spiders were involved in the tests or if the people who conducted these tests were aware of what kuind of spiders they used.

Will try to find out.

Okay,

they were Zilla-x-notada Cl. This particular spider was given flys to eat which were dosed with LSD, caffienne Mescaline and psilocybine and alcohol.

The lSd ones were really strange. Will poist images later.

mj

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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: Bardo]
    #1351961 - 03/05/03 07:02 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Bardo,

Here is the actual photgraph of the normal web built by the spider from the journal article it appears in

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mjshroomer

Thanks Bardo ffor posting that URL, although I had these images in my files already.

Here is the normal web.

mj


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1353854 - 03/06/03 04:05 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hawk, I have had pets all of my life except for these past five years since I moved to the WEst Coast from Hawaii.

Over the past thirty years, I have seen people I know try to feed shroosm to dogs, cats, one time ducks and pidgeons in a park and guinea pigs. Generally at those times the animals rejected the shroosm so aI doubt that they like them.

Yes a dog will come to you and you blow smoke in his face.
The same with a at. That does not mean that they like what you are doing to them.

How would you feel is some asshole came up to you and just blew cigarette smoke in your face?

Big deal.

It is cruel to give these animals drugs and I do know what I am talking about.

Sorry you can't see that.

Yes spiders have different metabilisms than cats and dogs, but then no one was able to complain when the army fesd LSD to unsuspecting people who jumped out the window.s

In Florida I saw a guy trying to feed ducks Chlorophyllum molybdites (green gills and/or Morgan's Lepiota), a toxic shroom in humans. HE wanted to see iff it would harm the ducks in order to eat it. I told him they were a toxic shroom and not for human consumption. He did believe me so he tried to get the park pond ducks to eat it.

He even mixed small fragments into bits and pieces of bread. The ducks would not eat the fragments. This person also tried to feed the pigeons psilocybine bits and they would peck and leave the pieces.

I saw one guy put sherooms in a dogs food and the dog gobbled about two bites and walked away from the food

Yess when I smoked weed in my homes when my family and I had dogs and cats, yah, they would act strange from the smoke but I am not one of those cool kids who thinks its cool to blow smoke up their animals nose.

Then again I also hear many people here at this site who claim their domesticated animals eat shrooms and like them. I think this is pure Bullshit.

Yes slugs, Deers and squirells love amanita muscaria, and Amanitas are not the same as psilocybian mushrooms.

Slugs, rats and many larvae insects eat the shrooms and get dizzy, so do ants who also like psilocybe mushrooms. But if you figure oput the ants body weight, he really could not get to dizzy off the small amount of shroomms that the ant consumed. Even palmettos love p. cubensis. But then what other kind of animals would eat those shrooms except slugs.

You think becasue I am living currently linving alone somewhere that i have not had animals in my life.

mj

I happen to know to well whaty I am talking about.


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: PooGrower]
    #1354297 - 03/06/03 07:01 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Youu could go to jail for doing that.

mj

That is dusgusting.

get a life


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: chunder]
    #1354666 - 03/06/03 09:19 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

If the law enforcement officers are reading these pages and sees posts like I get my hamsters high, or my dogs high or my cat loves it when I blow smoke in her face you only reinforces some of their rights to make these items illegal for all of us.

It s because of that very kind of shit that laws against drugs are created. That is irresponsible and stupid thing to do.

Cats come to humans because that is their nature to come to you when you call them, here kitty kitty.

Not because you are going to blow smoke in their faces/.

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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: Da Challice]
    #1371686 - 03/13/03 05:29 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)


Da Chalice,

WEll I was just responding to a post in another site about this cruel idea of giveing ones pets psychedelic drugs.

And as usual I say that is Bullshit to do so.

Your response to the above is a good example of why this is bullshit.

The ranger who tags an animal is probably a veterinarian with a liscense to do so. He is not giving the animal a drug to get him high. Period.

And those who do legal research are wqualified to attempt whatever it is they are doing.

I noticed that many people seem to justify or attempt to justify their giveing their pets drugs by the fact that science uses laboratory mice, rabbits, dogs and cats, etc by gioving them drugs to conduct their research and studies.

Okay, how the fuck many of you are doctors.

Get a life.

Okay, thats one thing but those people are doctors with mission, a goal, and a purpose behind their research. They are not giving drugs to their pets to watch their cats and hamsters, etc, fall over in a confused state of being just for the fun of it. To try to justify this by saying that doctorts do it all of the time is no excuse for animal cruelty.

People have been prosecuted with jail time for actually doing this, thinking it was cute.

ANd then again, I really dounbt if anyone who responded to this thread is a doctor, qualified to get his pet high. SOmeone who feels or actually thinks that their animals actually enjoyed the drugs and using that as an excuse to do so is even sicker. Saying doctors do it all of the time is lame and is not a justification for doing so.
mj


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: MrBump]
    #1378075 - 03/15/03 09:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

If thecornking looked on page twop of this thread there awas a post to the same sight. On page three of this thread I posted the very images fomthe article and I also listed numerous references tot hre very papers which covers animal test with psychoactive drugs.

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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: Told]
    #1380490 - 03/16/03 08:04 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Told says:

Quote:

nah i dont do crack. too many ppl i know have been killed for that shit.




Well Told's avatar says he is in the rockies.

Shit are there that many crack heads in Colorado or where ever the Rockies are.

So you hang out with many crakheads that you know.

How do you know them?

Do not understand where you are coming from except it sure sounds like polydrug abuse coming on. or animal drug abuse.

mj


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: chunder]
    #1380805 - 03/16/03 10:08 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yoiuy really have no idea that the cat likes the smell of your smoke.

Animals run from most smoke, fires etc. Horses,

Here is a picture of some deer form my files.

I think they are too stoned formthe smoke to run anywhere except to stay where they are becasue they are high.

See below for image.


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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1380830 - 03/16/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)


Who says Animals like smoke blown in their faces?



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Re: Hamsters On Mushrooms [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1380843 - 03/16/03 10:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

YEah Catnip is cute and then after a while they build a tolerance and it doesn't do nothing for them any more.

Have you ever seen cats find catnip in its natural growing stages.

Like the horse that eats Jimpson weed and then abuses its body by thrashing it into the surrounding trees and brush.

While certain animals get high on Amanitas and some on psilocybe, it is up to them to go get it to play like quirrels and deers ddo.
B;lowing moke int heir fac es is obnoxious and if someone blue smoke inmy face I could bust thenm one upside the head. ANimals do not know how to defend their lungs when you force it into their throats.

Becasue thats what you are doing.

They do not understand why yo do that to them.

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