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[WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot
#13452842 - 11/08/10 09:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Girl, 13, reports parents for pot November 5, 2010 - heraldnet.com
Police seize 64 plants, and allege the Everett couple involved their children in the growing operation
EVERETT — This burgeoning crop wasn’t homework for horticulture class or an entry for a science fair.
It was a hidden marijuana-growing operation, and police allege the teenaged children living in the home were expected to help tend the crop as part of their chores.
Now, four kids are in the care of state Child Protective Services and an Everett couple is under investigation for possible violation of state drug laws.
The husband and wife were arrested Wednesday and booked into the Snohomish County Jail after detectives from the Snohomish Regional Drug Task Force seized 64 plants from the basement of their north Everett home. No charges have been filed.
The man’s 13-year-old daughter brought the growing operation to the attention of authorities. She told them she was “tired of always smelling like marijuana,” according to the search warrant affidavit.
Reached on the phone Friday, the girl’s father said he was on his way to work out of state and could not talk. He said he would be willing to discuss the case later.
He and his wife had paperwork authorizing them to use and grow marijuana for medical purposes. However, the amount found in the home was at least double what could be considered necessary for their care, said Everett police Lt. Mark St. Clair, a member of the drug task force.
In addition, the couple faces potential trouble for allegedly involving children in growing pot. The search warrant sought evidence that the couple had involved somebody under age 18 in a controlled-substances transaction, something that is prohibited under state law.
It is not unusual to find children living in homes where pot is being grown, St. Clair said.
“Usually we don’t get evidence of information that the children are involved in the grow,” he said.
The girl reported the marijuana operation to school officials, who contacted police. The girl said her responsibilities included mixing the soil with fertilizer, trimming the leaves, watering the plants and to “pot them up,” according to court papers. She also said she believed her dad was selling marijuana to his friends.
The girl said her 12-year-old brother helped her dad tend to the plants more than she did.
An older stepsister told a Child Protective Services worker that her friends aren’t allowed to come to the front door and must wait a block away to meet her. She said she hated growing marijuana and that her dad recently had given her $10 for helping mix potting soil.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: veggie]
#13452858 - 11/08/10 09:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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In Maine our family's are taught to stay together, and not to trust the NWO at all.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: downlowfunk]
#13452864 - 11/08/10 09:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's a big grow, they shouldn't have had kids there in the first place.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: downlowfunk]
#13452884 - 11/08/10 09:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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downlowfunk said: In Maine our family's are taught to stay together, and not to trust the NWO at all.
lol, new world order? isnt that beside the point?
Im sure you might feel different if you were a little girl surrounded by illegal activity, and made to be involved in it. Some people are pretty wild.
telling a teacher isnt "alerting the nwo"
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13452907 - 11/08/10 09:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the girl should be drowned.
I'm feeling crankey today though.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: veggie]
#13453032 - 11/08/10 10:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really doubt the first time she spoke up was to the teachers. She probly tried to talk to her parents about it and they were being assholes, for a long time Making your 12 & 13 year old kids do your dirty work is bullshit, thats basically slave labor. you wanna grow? grow yourself, dont force your little kids to do it. i'm not saying they should get in as much trouble as they are going to, but they needed the wake up call, and i salute the girl for not taking shit from her fucked up parents! fuck these dumb stoner parents, treating their kids like shit, they don't deserve children
sure weed should be legal, but it's not, and certainly should not be tended to by the slave labor of your own children
if i had 2 kids and 64 plants, they would be separate, i'm not too lazy to trim and water my own plants..... once the kids got to 16+ if they wanted to be a part, or wanted to smoke, thats chill but it would be by their choice, i'm not such a piece of shit that i think everyone should live exactly like me, and do my labor for me
drugs are not sobriety, whether it's alcohol, weed, or meth
imagine if your parents were p.o.s drunks, and made you and your sister @ 12 & 13 yo distill their liquor for them just so they could spend more time drinking
would you want to grow up as those kids?
ppl shoud know, don't force your lifestyle onto your kids, unless your last name is manning or smith
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453042 - 11/08/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The girl reported the marijuana operation to school officials, who contacted police.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13453054 - 11/08/10 10:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The 12 year old brother must be pissed. His sister snitching his own family out fucked his life up and all their lives. The mother probably should have swallowed the first kid.
Yea that's a little harsh, but c'mon, when I was 13 that would have been.. AWESOME. We used to sit around in the semi circle dreaming about how great it would be if we could just somehow grow our own weed after buying seedy midgrade weed in the parking lot.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#13453098 - 11/08/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome for you maybe.
Perhaps not every child wants producing an illegal drug to be part of their chores.
Plus.
Who thinks "hey lets get our kids to help grow the drugs we are illegally producing!" "Good idea!"
The eventual outcome of this decision was unbelievably obvious.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Heffy]
#13453307 - 11/08/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place the blame. I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender. I can imagine a thirteen year old girl pissed at her parents for making her do chores period - not just tending the plants. She knows that she can get back at her parents by bringing up their pot garden to the school, so what does she do? Yep. And here's the result. Oh, and BTW their grow itself wasn't technically illegal. Only if they can prove that dad was selling to his friends is it illegal. When I first read the headline I was thinking of the little kids used to spy on and snitch out their parents in Orwell's 1984... Parents running around scared of their own kids because the kids can say something to the authorities and get the parents canned.
On the other hand if the parents were being neglectful, or abusive then they had it coming. But the article doesn't mention any abuse other than making the kid mix dirt and put seedlings into pots. Also, I can understand not letting friends come over. Can you imagine what the children's friends' parents would do when their kids came home from little Susy's house telling them about the weird smell and indoor garden??? Those kids would never be allowed to associate with little Susy ever again. In that light, little Susy's parents were doing her a solid by helping her to keep her friends. Of course kids are stupid and at 13 they start to get rebellious as hell. They act out to get back at their parents and in this case people freaked out because weed was involved. I agree with some other comments that little Susy probably regrets opening her big fat trap now that shit has hit the fan. Hopefully the kids go to a relative and hopefully that relative is more understanding than I would be. If the kid is repentant, OK, but if not - that kind of treachery would not go unpunished in my house. (again this is assuming that the only fault of the parents was making their kids do chores that happen to have a stigma attached) Really though, regardless of how F'ed the situation is, the parents were asking for it by getting unreliable kids involved in the first place. They should've read 1984...
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13453423 - 11/08/10 11:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree. I think that she fucked up, and will regret her decision very shortly.
Kids need to be taught the importance of family. Family comes first. You lie for your family. If there is a problem within the family, then it needs to be talked about. within the family.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453548 - 11/08/10 12:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Family comes first.
Exactly, they should put their children 1st, and cultivation 2nd.
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You don't betray your family for anything, and they won't betray you in turn.
many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return
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I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
I think it says something about our society when people automatically think a 13yo girl should have better judgement than her parents...
do you really think the girl's first reaction was to narc? i doubt it she probly tried to talk to her parents about it for a while, and they probly just got baked & disregarded her
do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap
if they would have paid any attention, i bet they could have easily stemmed this from happening or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work
some people wanna be stoners, some people wanna be politicians, it's upto parents to listen to there children, and make responsible decisions
and besides all that, if you show/tell people about your grow, it will get around try telling all the 12-13yo kids you know that you grow pot, and see if the cops don't come.....
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453600 - 11/08/10 12:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return
I'm really not sure what you're talking about. How would a kid feel betrayed by it? What kind of return does doing chores normally bring? Food on the table? Shelter? maybe an allowance?
My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up... All because she wanted to sit back and look at them!
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Poor little susy, she had to trim marijuana. Now she'll live the hard life as will her brother and the rest of her family.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453601 - 11/08/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return
many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school. Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give. many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.
kids are irrational. Their logic doesn't always make sense. I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden. What, you think that there is a difference? My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent. You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?
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do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap
These things DO happen overnight. She could have been talked to by DARE at her school or something. There are news articles on the shroomery where this has happened. So, yes. It can happen overnight.
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or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work
Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know. 
This whole thing could have been avoided. The parents need to listen to their kids, the kids need to realize that work is a part of life.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453603 - 11/08/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ChronicCluster said: I agree. I think that she fucked up, and will regret her decision very shortly.
Kids need to be taught the importance of family. Family comes first. You lie for your family. If there is a problem within the family, then it needs to be talked about. within the family.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453632 - 11/08/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return
many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school. Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give. many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.
kids are irrational. Their logic doesn't always make sense. I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden. What, you think that there is a difference? My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent. You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?
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do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap
These things DO happen overnight. She could have been talked to by DARE at her school or something. There are news articles on the shroomery where this has happened. So, yes. It can happen overnight.
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or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work
Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know. 
This whole thing could have been avoided. The parents need to listen to their kids, the kids need to realize that work is a part of life.
Agreed.
I know of a few kids who purposefully lied to authorities saying that their father figure had molested or raped them. All because the kids were angry about chores or punishment. I'd hardly put it past a little girl to narc out of anger at her parents when it's NOT a lie.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453661 - 11/08/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up
roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?
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What kind of return does doing chores normally bring? Food on the table? Shelter? maybe an allowance?
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many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school. Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give. many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.
that teachs kids the value of hard work, not the exploits of a failed probition your just making umbrella shaped statments... thats not how the world works it is what it is..... weed is weed roses are roses kids are kids parents are parents
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kids are irrational. Their logic doesn't always make sense.
so why confuse them even more by making them cultivate for you?
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I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden. What, you think that there is a difference? My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent. You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?
lol you can buy tomatoes at the store....... there are no mixed messages with that....... hard work = food on the table......
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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return
i said that wrong....honestly
regardless..... i think those parents betrayed their children bringing someone into this world is a little bit more than just having slaves to mix fert for you.... you have a responsibilty to raise those children with morales and values, not send them mixed messages about right & wrong
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453679 - 11/08/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up
roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?
That's the point. No where in this article is it even considered that the children were being forced to smoke pot.
So it comes down to the only difference being the species of plant.
Not to mention, in the article, it says she ratted because she was tired of smelling like pot. It doesn't say that they worked her until her hands bled and she was turning them in for abuse.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453690 - 11/08/10 01:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know
lol i forgot that everyone cultivates weed as a part of normal life i forgot that you can get arrested for cleaning the kitchen i forgot that whether you are a politician or a stoner, both have the same exact impact on the world i forgot that 13yo kids are supposed to make rational desicions about stuff they don't like....
must be all the weed i smoke clouding my memory....
were gonna have to agree to disagree, nobody will ever change my views on parents being parents..... doesn't matter what the circumstance, the parent is the one that should be responsible.... making your 12yo kids cultivate for you is just plain reckless.... it's like making "I Sell Weed" posters with your address on it
parents are supposed to take care of kids, thats just nature guys...
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453693 - 11/08/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just looking at this from a different perspective. No abuse was mentioned and the grow was technically legal. The only problem was that a kid didn't want to do her chores so she narc'd on her parents.
I would like to think that my kids will have the common sense to keep their mouths shut and that I'll know if they don't. I know I wouldn't have gone against my parents at that age. Of course my parents would have explained the implications of such a rash decision as going to the authorities.
Contempt over having to do chores is no excuse to break your family apart no matter how old you are. Kids have a lot more sense than you give them credit for - if you teach them how to think things through.
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I agree. They were probably too self involved and not using common sense to see that their daughter was starting to go into teenage bitch mode. They also probably didn't bother to tell her what the consequences would be if she opened her yap (ie the ramifications of CPS) But, don't make it sound like they were involving the kids in something more than gardening. The "dirty work" was legally growing medicine. If it does turn out that Daddy was selling, then I'll concede a bit - but "dirty work"? Come on, they were mixing soil and clipping leaves.
Don't get me wrong. The parents were to blame. But their failing was not knowing their kids, not educating their kids on the consequences, and being naive enough to think that a medical permit was going to shield them from the backlash of people who view legal cultivation of pot as dirty work.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13453702 - 11/08/10 01:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
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Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know
lol i forgot that everyone cultivates weed as a part of normal life i forgot that you can get arrested for cleaning the kitchen i forgot that whether you are a politician or a stoner, both have the same exact impact on the world i forgot that 13yo kids are supposed to make rational desicions about stuff they don't like....
must be all the weed i smoke clouding my memory....
were gonna have to agree to disagree, nobody will ever change my views on parents being parents..... doesn't matter what the circumstance, the parent is the one that should be responsible.... making your 12yo kids cultivate for you is just plain reckless.... it's like making "I Sell Weed" posters with your address on it
parents are supposed to take care of kids, thats just nature guys...
I forgot that 12 year olds goto jail for their parents actions...
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: anarchOi]
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My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up
roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?
That's the point. No where in this article is it even considered that the children were being forced to smoke pot.
So it comes down to the only difference being the species of plant.
Not to mention, in the article, it says she ratted because she was tired of smelling like pot. It doesn't say that they worked her until her hands bled and she was turning them in for abuse.
since when did contact highs stop happening? when i trim, i get high from contact when i smoke, friends get high from contact
drugs are for adults, and sobriety is for kids
and even if the kids somehow didn't get high, it's a really bad example kids don't use logic, they are in the moment and, imho, the first 18 years of your life truly shapes the last 80
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
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Don't get me wrong. The parents were to blame. But their failing was not knowing their kids, not educating their kids on the consequences, and being naive enough to think that a medical permit was going to shield them from the backlash of people who view legal cultivation of pot as dirty work.
This. This was the only failing in my opinion.
I cannot view the growing of one plant as different than the growing of another plant. Especially when these people had equal rights to grow both.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: anarchOi]
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She said she hated growing marijuana and that her dad recently had given her $10 for helping mix potting soil.
She was at least getting some return for her work. I don't know if it was entirely appropriate for the parents to make the kids help, but it's just a plant. I'm sure they're going to be a lot worse off now than they were before. After all, the parents weren't training her to break the law or anything, they were legitimate patients.
Sounds to me like she was annoyed about having to do chores and decided to get back at them whoever said that it was equivalent to slave labor is way off unless the situation was a lot more extreme than the article described.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
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My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up
roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?
That's the point. No where in this article is it even considered that the children were being forced to smoke pot.
So it comes down to the only difference being the species of plant.
Not to mention, in the article, it says she ratted because she was tired of smelling like pot. It doesn't say that they worked her until her hands bled and she was turning them in for abuse.
since when did contact highs stop happening? when i trim, i get high from contact when i smoke, friends get high from contact
drugs are for adults, and sobriety is for kids
and even if the kids somehow didn't get high, it's a really bad example kids don't use logic, they are in the moment and, imho, the first 18 years of your life truly shapes the last 80
MAYBE they wore gloves?? Maybe they're parents didn't smoke in the same room with the kids?? You're making lot of assumptions.
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Don't get me wrong. The parents were to blame. But their failing was not knowing their kids, not educating their kids on the consequences, and being naive enough to think that a medical permit was going to shield them from the backlash of people who view legal cultivation of pot as dirty work.
This. This was the only failing in my opinion.
I cannot view the growing of one plant as different than the growing of another plant. Especially when these people had equal rights to grow both.
 
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13453765 - 11/08/10 01:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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But their failing was not knowing their kids, not educating their kids on the consequences,
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people who view legal cultivation of pot as dirty work.
I legally cultivate, and i consider it dirty work.
anything I have to hide from my friends / neighbors / stangers is "dirty" to me
when i see a cop on my street, i don't feel "clean" even tho i'm well within my legal limit
I think pot is a wonderful & useful plant, with little to no bad side effects.....
but if i went to a farmers market selling weed, I would get alot of "dirty" looks....
what alot of people don't understand is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion
just becuase you feel a certain way about something doesn't mean your children need to, or even can
i think something that can get you put in jail, and get your kids taken away, qualifies as "dirty" from the legal consequences alone
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Shroomerette]
#13453767 - 11/08/10 01:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: 64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
64 plants is hardly commercial. With two of them smoking it doesn't leave much to be sold. Maybe it was the only grow of the year?
What does having a gun around have to do with anything?
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Shroomerette]
#13453786 - 11/08/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I cannot view the growing of one plant as different than the growing of another plant. Especially when these people had equal rights to grow both.
I agree, but were not talking about the right of a person to cultivate a plant.
Even if weed was %100 legal I would not make my 12yo kids work near intoxicants.... guess i'm old fashioned
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: anarchOi]
#13453792 - 11/08/10 01:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: 64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
64 plants is hardly commercial. With two of them smoking it doesn't leave much to be sold. Maybe it was the only grow of the year?
What does having a gun around have to do with anything?
lol, you must not grow.....
64 plants @ 4oz per plant = 16 lbs
i've never heard of anyone doing indoor once a year.... thats outdoor friend
pulling 5 crops a years would be 80 lbs......
who the fuck can smoke 80 lbs a year?
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: anarchOi]
#13453808 - 11/08/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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when i see a cop on my street, i don't feel "clean" even tho i'm well within my legal limit.
Sounds like a personal problem to me. If I had a legal right to grow and smoke Cannabis, I wouldn't give a fuck. Maybe you shouldn't do weed then, if you have that much of a problem with it. (assuming you do, fair assumption given this board)
I wouldn't have a problem giving my kids chores regarding the legal cultivation. I would make damned sure that I can trust them to follow my rules, and not put them in a position where they could even get a contact high. I'd probably let them try it, after all, a lot of parents will give their kids a little wine or beer when they are below age.
It's better IMO to let them experience it in a safe environment, than to let them figure it out on their own. It would not be even a yearly thing though. It'd be a once in a long while thing.
Parents who own breweries or vineyards get their kids to help out. It's only harmful if you are negligent.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453814 - 11/08/10 01:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: 64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
I bet two dollars that no reporter would have forgotten to put that in big bold letters if it were the case. But really, so what if there were guns present? We have the right to bear arms in this country (although those rights may be restricted in the case of medical growers) and as long as they were responsible gun owners with their weapons locked up and away from the kids - what is your point? You do know that medical growers are more likely to be the victims of home invasions and burglary, if someone find out about their grow, right?
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Really? Slaves? Is that what chores are now, slavery? God help me if they try and pass that bullshit. Just like hardly being able to spank your kids for fear of child abuse charges... But I take more offense at the morals statement. I agree you should raise your kids to know what is wrong and right. These parents were within their legal right to cultivate, so what was the wrong here? Or do you think that medical growers are wrong? They should keep this a big secret from their kids and hide it away like they should be guilty for exercising their rights in front of their children? I think that's wrong.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453852 - 11/08/10 01:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like a personal problem to me. If I had a legal right to grow and smoke Cannabis, I wouldn't give a fuck. Maybe you shouldn't do weed then, if you have that much of a problem with it.
lol, you dont have a cannabis card, and don't cultivate
i can smell something... i think someone is talking out of their ass 
you know shrooms can help with your ego problem 
where i'm from, cops leave it to the judge to figure out if ur legal
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Really? Slaves?
alright, slavery isn't the right word..my bad
if my mom made me mix gin & tonics for her when i was 12, i wouldn't be the person i am today
i'll shutup cause obviously not many ppl have any compassion for innocent children, goodluck being parents
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453862 - 11/08/10 01:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I legally cultivate, and i consider it dirty work.
anything I have to hide from my friends / neighbors / stangers is "dirty" to me
when i see a cop on my street, i don't feel "clean" even tho i'm well within my legal limit
just becuase you feel a certain way about something doesn't mean your children need to, or even can
Tek,
I'm sorry man this totally sucks. If I had a medical permit my friends would be very supportive and would want to come and see the grow. I agree that your kids don't need to be raised to agree with you on everything, but I stand by my statement that you shouldn't feel ashamed to exercise your rights around anybody, your children included. Feeling dirty about exercising your rights and hiding away only makes society more bold in taking those rights away. I hope you can work through your issues with this. I think it is a side effect of the brainwashing everyone has received at the hands of high school health classes, DARE, the mainstream media, etc. I know it's hard when you're friends are professionals or very conservative, but the only way you're ever going to be able to get rid of that feeling is to decondition yourself to the lies you've been fed since you were a kid. Talk to your friends and if they're worth your time they will listen.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453872 - 11/08/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol, you dont have a cannabis card, and don't cultivate.
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i'll shutup cause obviously not many ppl have any compassion for innocent children, goodluck being parents
Nice emotional argument there. Also nice veiled insult. Too bad both of them are worthless in an actual discussion.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453882 - 11/08/10 01:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sorry man this totally sucks. If I had a medical permit my friends would be very supportive and would want to come and see the grow. I agree that your kids don't need to be raised to agree with you on everything, but I stand by my statement that you shouldn't feel ashamed to exercise your rights around anybody, your children included.
Feeling dirty about exercising your rights and hiding away only makes society more bold in taking those rights away. I hope you can work through your issues with this. I think it is a side effect of the brainwashing everyone has received at the hands of high school health classes, DARE, the mainstream media, etc.
I know it's hard when you're friends are professionals or very conservative, but the only way you're ever going to be able to get rid of that feeling is to decondition yourself to the lies you've been fed since you were a kid. Talk to your friends and if they're worth your time they will listen.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13453898 - 11/08/10 01:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope you can work through your issues with this. I think it is a side effect of the brainwashing everyone has received at the hands of high school health classes, DARE, the mainstream media, etc
lol, are you serious? I live in a world were someone is arrested for marijuana every 45 seconds.....
some people in this town have gone to jail even with a card....
i'm living in reality... put ur big boy pants on, and practice what u preach when you get a card, and start cultivating tell everyone you know and act as if you'll never get caught....
then write a book about morales while ur sitting in jail 
i think ur a bit neive to think this world is based on theory, and "what should happen"
i know anything is possible, that's why i try to be safe
car have airbags & seatbelts, ppl still die in accidents.... i have a card, and i grow, doesn't mean i can't goto jail
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13453926 - 11/08/10 01:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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for some odd reason i don't think you actually have any experiance with what your talking about
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lol, you dont have a cannabis card, and don't cultivate.
Speaking of talking out of your ass... 
so you do cultivate? why were you scared to say it until now?
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i'll shutup cause obviously not many ppl have any compassion for innocent children, goodluck being parents
Nice emotional argument there. Also nice veiled insult. Too bad both of them are worthless in an actual discussion.
they are worth enough for you to analyze
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13453966 - 11/08/10 02:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a friend that is still fucked up til today because of shit like this. His parents made him cultivate starting around 9yo, he is 28 now, and still has trust issues that run deeper than the atlantic and he is extremely introverted
don't take it from me, talk to someone who has studied psychological development in humans, and ask them about this article
has anyone here had this happen to them as a child? cause i grew up with someone who did....
so go ahead and keep talking out of your ego's, and i'll keep talking responsibilty for my own actions
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454014 - 11/08/10 02:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: lol, are you serious? I live in a world were someone is arrested for marijuana every 45 seconds.....
some people in this town have gone to jail even with a card....
i'm living in reality...
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when i see a cop on my street, i don't feel "clean" even tho i'm well within my legal limit
People going to jail, card or no card have absolutely nothing to do with how YOU feel about YOURSELF.
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tektonic said: put ur big boy pants on, and practice what u preach when you get a card, and start cultivating tell everyone you know and act as if you'll never get caught....
then write a book about morales while ur sitting in jail 
I never said to tell everybody. I said to tell your friends. I'm sorry for you if you don't feel that you can trust your close friends with the fact that you grow. Although it does explain why you're such a dick when I'm trying to be nice. People without true friends tend to be jerks. Or maybe I stuck a chord that you don't want to hear earlier. Either way...
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i think ur a bit neive to think this world is based on theory, and "what should happen"
i know anything is possible, that's why i try to be safe
Again, feeling dirty about exercising your rights and hiding away only makes society more bold in taking those rights away. Is that idealistic? Yeah, but it keeps me on the right track and keeps me from accepting all the bullshit that gets put in my face.
Do you at least take part in activism to help yourself and others in your position? Or do you prefer to smoke alone and be marginalized? If so you are no help to anyone including yourself.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454032 - 11/08/10 02:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to make it clear....
It sucks that she narced on her parents, she will probly regret that CPS and jail is going to be much worse than the "crime" any family being torn apart is terrible.
I just wish it had never gotten that far....
there are much smarter ways to cultivate than making your 12yo kids do it
atleast leave them out of it til they are 15-16yo
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13454035 - 11/08/10 02:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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so you do cultivate? why were you scared to say it until now?
Do I even have to bother answering that, or can you figure it out on your own?
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454037 - 11/08/10 02:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454042 - 11/08/10 02:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mostly agreed.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13454066 - 11/08/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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People going to jail, card or no card have absolutely nothing to do with how YOU feel about YOURSELF.
Wtf? theres something wrong with thinking cops can take you to jail? i dont get your point
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I never said to tell everybody. I said to tell your friends. I'm sorry for you if you don't feel that you can trust your close friends with the fact that you grow. Although it does explain why you're such a dick when I'm trying to be nice. People without true friends tend to be jerks. Or maybe I stuck a chord that you don't want to hear earlier. Either way...
1st of all you dont live in this town, obviously, and you don't cultivate, what makes you the authority?
you say everyone that cultivates should go around telling all there friends? thats a funny statement, goodluck with that
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Do I even have to bother answering that, or can you figure it out on your own?
well, you said you don't, and you said you do, kinda hard to figure out guy
why are you dancing around the subject? what are you scared of?
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454153 - 11/08/10 02:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, you said you don't, and you said you do, kinda hard to figure out guy
why are you dancing around the subject? what are you scared of?
illegal. What am I scared of? The same thing that you are.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
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Tektonic I think you're confused, and I think that the way you think about cannabis is full of cognitive dissonance. It's clear that you have some serious problems with your perception of cannabis relative to your perception of yourself and those people who are important to you in your life.
All that said; I think you're full of shit man. Who the fuck are you to grow cannabis, talk intimately about the details of it, and then make comments about how you think people who do exactly what you're doing, in the presence of children, are doing something criminal.
You need to get over yourself and start thinking more deeply. You're growing plants. Plants, whether magical (psychotropic) or not, should not be criminalized in a society where we all explicitly tell each other and ourselves that we own ourselves.
You are a hypocrite. You don't think so because you figure you grow cannabis *without* children around. Here's the facts though. You believe that growing cannabis is immoral, or as you phrase is "dirty"; yet you take place in this immoral behavior. You extend your personal feelings of immorality on to other people's situations of growing cannabis and then judge them accordingly.
If you want to feel morally restricted by your own codes, that's fine, but stay out of other people's business. If someone isn't initiating force against someone else, you don't have any business getting involved. To do so makes YOU the initiator, or supporter of the initiation of force.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454165 - 11/08/10 02:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You obviously don't get that feeling that you could go to jail (something you feel could happen to you) is not the same as feeling dirty (something you feel about yourself). I get that you're scared of getting caught exercising your rights... but that has nothing to do with feeling "dirty" about exercising those rights.
I did say friends, but implied "true friends". I have a lot of friends but only one or two true friends. Based on your previous comments, I'm not surprised that you don't know the difference. I never claimed to be an authority, I just have one or two people other than my wife that I trust absolutely. I can tell these people absolutely anything without a second thought. But obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll drop it.
Really though, best of luck. I'm done.
Peace
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Humility]
#13454217 - 11/08/10 03:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get that we see things different, you do u, thats cool
but don't act like u know me 
you're just projecting what you are into paragraphs, has nothing to do with me
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454271 - 11/08/10 03:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I get that we see things different, you do u, thats cool
but don't act like u know me 
you're just projecting what you are into paragraphs, has nothing to do with me 
The things you say aren't consistent and don't make a lot of sense.
Nobody's acting like they know you, they're just talking about the things that you have said.
This is the only thing you have said that I agree with:
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tektonic said: I want to make it clear....
It sucks that she narced on her parents, she will probly regret that CPS and jail is going to be much worse than the "crime" any family being torn apart is terrible.
I just wish it had never gotten that far....
there are much smarter ways to cultivate than making your 12yo kids do it
atleast leave them out of it til they are 15-16yo
The ONLY reason they should have kept the kids separate from the plants is because they should know that the authorities would be more likely to take the kids and keep them away if they have the kids help them grow. Simply being in the presence of marijuana plants and helping take care of them would not do any damage to the kids though.
If I had kids and I wanted to grow I wouldn't involve them, but only because of the legal issues, not because I think it would be ethically wrong or dangerous to them. Ideally, this shouldn't be an issue as long as precautions are taken to make sure the kids aren't consuming any.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454280 - 11/08/10 03:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I have a friend that is still fucked up til today because of shit like this. His parents made him cultivate starting around 9yo, he is 28 now, and still has trust issues that run deeper than the atlantic and he is extremely introverted
don't take it from me, talk to someone who has studied psychological development in humans, and ask them about this article
has anyone here had this happen to them as a child? cause i grew up with someone who did....
so go ahead and keep talking out of your ego's, and i'll keep talking responsibilty for my own actions
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454300 - 11/08/10 03:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I have a friend that is still fucked up til today because of shit like this. His parents made him cultivate starting around 9yo, he is 28 now, and still has trust issues that run deeper than the atlantic and he is extremely introverted
don't take it from me, talk to someone who has studied psychological development in humans, and ask them about this article
has anyone here had this happen to them as a child? cause i grew up with someone who did....
so go ahead and keep talking out of your ego's, and i'll keep talking responsibilty for my own actions
You're right. All of the damage was caused by the plant. We've got to get this news out! Science NEEDS to know about the dangers to one's mental health that comes from growing plants!
It definitely wasn't his parents abusing him.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Shroomerette]
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it's funny how people automatically just think anything regarding weed is 100% good it's so nieve to think that just because you feel a certain way about a plant means it should be ok to force children to cultivate it
get ur head out of ur ass, every situation is different
you guys are just blanketing everything with "pot can do no harm"
water can kill you, guns can save
pot has the same universe as everyone else, it can be abused, as well as be used as a functional tool
if you guys heard anything different, then u read wrong
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
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yea, turns out that kids are sensitive.... who would have thought?
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It definitely wasn't his parents abusing him.
they never hit him....
abuse comes in many forms....
just because some of us whould be good parents while cultivating, doesn't make it a rule
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
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We (I, at least) are talking about cultivation in a legal environment. You come blazing in here with 'evidence' for your argument that is talking about growing illegally.
legal vs. illegal
Yeah, asking your kids to do something that is morally looked down upon by a lot of people will probably make them unsure and confused. No one is contesting that. In fact, i'm pretty sure that you are the only one who is talking about getting their kids to grow in an illegal manner.
No one is making any blanket statements like 'growing weed cannot possibly hurt the kids' either. We acknowledge that lots of things can.
You seem to think that growing weed in a legal atmosphere would hurt the kids in some way. If it were legal, then no one would care, and the kids wouldn't care. they wouldn't know to care, since it being legal would be all that they know.
Kids cultivating weed will not necessarily hurt them like you seem to imply.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
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Joe Joe said: Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place the blame. I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
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how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
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Sorry if I got personal, or pissed anyone off Allow me to phrase my stance differently:
If I had kids(hypothetically), and cultivated cannabis
I would not hide anything I was doing from them. If my kid asked me "why does that room hum & glow?" I would reply "that's were daddy grows his medicine" & probly show them If they wanted to help, i would let them If they wanted to smoke, i would probly smoke with them (depending on age/legality)
I wouldn't force them to partake in any part of cultivation, at any age. I wouldn't treat cultivation as another chore. I wouldn't smoke in my house if my kids were under 18 I wouldn't send my kids to school smelling like weed under 18 etc...
this specific article struck a nerve with me, i watched something similair happen to my best friend growing up, and the parents were definately the problem
it's terrible to see a family get broken up over cultivation. i wish they would just get a small fine, and a lecture there needs to be reform.
but until then, i don't think it's a good idea to force your 13yo kid to grow your weed
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
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SS Officers.. There is a Jew in my parents basement.. I hope they give her a medal..
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
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Doc_T said: 64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
64 plants is hardly commercial. With two of them smoking it doesn't leave much to be sold. Maybe it was the only grow of the year?
What does having a gun around have to do with anything?
lol, you must not grow.....
64 plants @ 4oz per plant = 16 lbs
i've never heard of anyone doing indoor once a year.... thats outdoor friend
pulling 5 crops a years would be 80 lbs......
who the fuck can smoke 80 lbs a year?
You must not grow either, you aren't going to yield 16 pounds off of 64 plants, especially considering a lot of them were probably just clones waiting to be potted or plants being vegged. You aren't yeilding 16 pounds unless you have at least 8 1000s going, I really doubt they had that type of setup in a residence. QP a plant...you must be new here. You could do that if you veg the living shit out of them, but an oz or 2 is a lot more likely.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
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Oh, true. 64 plants on hand doesn't mean 64 adult plants at once.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Doc_T]
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Oh, true. 64 plants on hand doesn't mean 64 adult plants at once.
If all your plants are adults you get less gardens per year. Also, don't forget you need 1 mother for every strain of pot you have. It wasn't anarch0i you were quoting btw.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
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Stupid kid... I hope she finds out what real chores are like with her new "family"
On the face of it, with nothing more than the information from the article, the parents did nothing wrong, unless you view "chores" for children as wrong.
Now if they were cultivating brugmansia, that would be a different story. The cannabis posed no health risks to the children as say, a rose bush (thorns) or brugmansia (poisonous) would.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
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how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
Why don't you read the whole thread before you jump in. And the grow was legal - the parents had a medical permit.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
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Joe Joe said: Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place the blame. I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
Why don't you read the whole thread before you jump in. And the grow was legal - the parents had a medical permit.
I actually read the whole article. If you had also, you would know that their activity was far from "legal" according to the witness/victim, and a sweep of the house. Why dont you read the article before jumping in
just as a note, involving your children in illegal activity should never be considered "right" by any stretch. Im no snitch, but if thats how your going to raise kids then you shouldnt have them in the first place.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
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I actually read the whole article. If you had also, you would know that their activity was far from "legal" according to the witness/victim. Why dont you read the article before jumping in
The article had very little real (read: facts) information that could be considered damning. If you want to go the word of a thirteen year old without questioning the motive or considering the consequences then go for it. You might also want to consider a career in journalism. I hear they need people like you.
If you actually want to have a discussion read all of my posts to this thread. The ones where I said that if something shady was going on, then the parents were in the wrong would be pertinent.
Until then I will ignore you.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
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spoken like a true straw man
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
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They were shitty parents for involving their children in dealing drugs, but the kid was an asshole for ratting her parents out. Unless they were really shitty parents she is going to regret this.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13455521 - 11/08/10 07:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whatever man. I've made my arguments and I don't want to waste any more time on this.
Sorry you got to the party late and there are only fat chicks left.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: They were shitty parents for involving their children in dealing drugs, but the kid was an asshole for ratting her parents out. Unless they were really shitty parents she is going to regret this.
I didn't see anything in that article to indicate the children were involved in the dealing of drugs, only the production of medication.
Whether the father sold to some friends does not apply, in my opinion. It still didn't involve the children in dealing. Production and dealing are two separate things.
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 don't farmers make their kids help? stupid little girl.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
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Ungrateful brat! What I wouldn't give to have been schooled on such a grand old pasttime growing up
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Doc_T]
#13458908 - 11/09/10 01:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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No kidding. The teachers probably got the cops to talk to her because of smelling like marijuana always and she probably confessed under pressure.
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Actually I have to speak up in this one Because I actually knew the family a few years ago (was a neighbor and friend for a short time. I am still friends with the wife's brother and family as well)
That being said SOME of what the kids have reported has been extreme and slightly elaborated BUT most is true..... and NO it was not a happy home as most would think...These children were not only FORCED to tend the garden but if they complained they were punished as well, and this was 3-4 years ago so the children were much younger then obviously. There is much more to this story then what meets the eye so please don't judge these kids, they really just need some love and attention.
I being a parent as well as a Medical Marijuana Patient could NEVER see myself involving my 8 year old in tending to my medication. This is not to say it is kept secret from her either but its not something she needs to be involved in until shit is older and I don't feel that it would be acceptable before the age of 16. Children need to be allowed to be children while they can be.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: HighPotNess]
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I can understand you guys being all morally conflicted about weed.
Still, you're trying to side with a kid about DOING CHORES IN A FUCKING HOUSE.
Weed gets you high, obviously. I'm glad no one missed that. Tomatoes nourish you; tobacco gets you high as well. You don't think kids work tobacco farms? You don't think kids grow up in that industry and become moguls?
If the kid doesn't want to do chores, get the fuck out of the house. NO parent has an obligation to provide for a child past childbirth, and no kid has the right to shirk their responsibilities, whatever those assigned responsibilities might be, without choosing to leave. And that "choice to leave" should always be an option.
Chores are fucking chores man. I wouldn't personally have my kids tend the weed garden; there is tons of stuff to do in a house that doesn't involve weed; still, these parents did choose to do that. I want to reiterate that in doing so they did *nothing* wrong whatsoever.
HIghPotNess - I don't know if you're familiar with CPS and foster homes. If all those kids needed was love and attention they should have sat their parents down and had an honest chat with them; formed a unified strike; whatever they needed to do.
I guarantee that if they were living at 60% happiness before, they are down to 10-15. If they don't get molested, or physically abused, or verbally abused, or emotionally abused (other kids getting more stuff than them), or split up into different families; no matter if any of that happens, their biological parents who care about them more than anyone else in the world for obvious reasons will not be seeing them for a long time.
These kids will have a horrible next 5-10 years. They will always regret this decision. I can't see anything else happening.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Humility]
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Humility said: I can understand you guys being all morally conflicted about weed.
Still, you're trying to side with a kid about DOING CHORES IN A FUCKING HOUSE.
Weed gets you high, obviously. I'm glad no one missed that. Tomatoes nourish you; tobacco gets you high as well. You don't think kids work tobacco farms? You don't think kids grow up in that industry and become moguls?
If the kid doesn't want to do chores, get the fuck out of the house. NO parent has an obligation to provide for a child past childbirth, and no kid has the right to shirk their responsibilities, whatever those assigned responsibilities might be, without choosing to leave. And that "choice to leave" should always be an option.
Chores are fucking chores man. I wouldn't personally have my kids tend the weed garden; there is tons of stuff to do in a house that doesn't involve weed; still, these parents did choose to do that. I want to reiterate that in doing so they did *nothing* wrong whatsoever.
HIghPotNess - I don't know if you're familiar with CPS and foster homes. If all those kids needed was love and attention they should have sat their parents down and had an honest chat with them; formed a unified strike; whatever they needed to do.
I guarantee that if they were living at 60% happiness before, they are down to 10-15. If they don't get molested, or physically abused, or verbally abused, or emotionally abused (other kids getting more stuff than them), or split up into different families; no matter if any of that happens, their biological parents who care about them more than anyone else in the world for obvious reasons will not be seeing them for a long time.
These kids will have a horrible next 5-10 years. They will always regret this decision. I can't see anything else happening.
That is a rediculously oversimplified and redundent outlook on the whole situation. First, read the post above yours. Second, think about what your saying...
There is a wold of difference between doing chores and tending to a garden od illegal plants. You could harken it more towards young southerners helping their parents manufacture moonshine. No matter how much you try and simplify it, whats happening here is far from "right" or "normal"
Having a little chit-chat with the drug manufacturing parents isnt going to magically fix this familys problems. Your living in a dream world. Some peoples lives are way more rough and complicated then you may be able to comprehend.
This young, 13 year old girl, who was made to be involved in her parents grow operation, was likely FORCED in to having to make the most adult decision she will ever make, solely based on the fact that she is completely fed up with the way her parents conduct the whole familys lives. If you think this little girl hasnt considered that she may not see her parents agin for some time then you havent given her situation second thought.
Again, there is nothing "normal" or "right" about how these people are rasising their extreamly impressionable children. Not only are the parents wrong in every aspect of their actions, but they should be shipped to gitmo and have their genitals mutilated.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
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OK a few things you MUST know about this case... the kids had tried to talk to there parents Numerous times... BUT living with a man who is abusive and a Mom who is to afraid to stand up is a hard life for the kids, they were not taken to foster homes they were taken to family. The older kids (the wife's kids from a previous relationship) were ridiculed and put down on daily basis, not to mention they were not allowed to have friends even come to the door. I am not trying to "air" these peoples business but its not unfounded like many of you think, its not simply rebellion expected of a teen. I personally watched the emotional abuse that was present 4 years ago, and from what the wife's family has confirmed the abuse has only progresses and even become physical on a few occasions now. Chores are needed my 8 year old has chores, doing dishes, picking up and vacuuming THESE are chores .. tending a garden for medicinal marijuana is not chores its slave labor because they were to lazy to do it themselves. Like I stated there is WAY more to this case then any of you could possibly know.
Parents love their children regardless of what happens GENERALLY.. these two have so much as said "screw the kids if this is how they will act" .. I'm sorry but parents who truly love their kids would 1) not put them in this situation to begin with, and 2) try every possible way to disprove it in some or every way. All the kids were involved in this situation, and what i mean by that is the two older step-kids, the 12 yr old boy, and 13 yr old girl were all involved in making reports .. and the weed was there main focus because the abuse that has been going on in the home is much harder to prove in a court of law (abuse has been reported in the past). It is our jobs as parents to raise our children safely and without fear and these children lived in constant fear of saying the wrong thing and getting smacked around some and that is NO life for these children to be forced to live.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: HighPotNess]
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You can love your kids and be a shitty human being at the same time. If what you say is true they were extremely shitty parents and probably shouldn't have even had kids if they didn't want to raise them properly. Then again, if you took kids away from every shitty parent you would have a lot of orphans. Not my kids, not my problem.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: You can love your kids and be a shitty human being at the same time. If what you say is true they were extremely shitty parents and probably shouldn't have even had kids if they didn't want to raise them properly. Then again, if you took kids away from every shitty parent you would have a lot of orphans. Not my kids, not my problem.
fapjack- yes you can love your kids and still be shitty parents but kids still deserve better then to be abused and ridiculed daily. There is a difference in being a shitty parent and being an abusive parent.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: HighPotNess]
#13463508 - 11/10/10 11:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for filling in the details HighPotNess. In this light I agree that these people were worthless parents and deserve everything they get.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13465663 - 11/10/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds to me like what highpotness has said is: The medicine (in this case cannabis) was not the problem, an abusive father, and a doormatt mother were the problems.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: veggie]
#13465961 - 11/10/10 09:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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No there was never firearms in the house...(they had that much good thought process Some how) and I know they have medical permits but they have those only to try to cover an illegal grow operation. This man is very manipulative (as most abusers are) these two needed a serious wake up call and i believe they deserve everything they get now.
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