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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
    #13454793 - 11/08/10 04:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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who the fuck can smoke 80 lbs a year?




Me! :rasta:


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
    #13454914 - 11/08/10 05:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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a lot of them were probably just clones waiting to be potted or plants being vegged. 




Oh, true. 64 plants on hand doesn't mean 64 adult plants at once.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Doc_T]
    #13455048 - 11/08/10 05:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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a lot of them were probably just clones waiting to be potted or plants being vegged. 




Oh, true. 64 plants on hand doesn't mean 64 adult plants at once.



If all your plants are adults you get less gardens per year.  Also, don't forget you need 1 mother for every strain of pot you have.  It wasn't anarch0i you were quoting btw.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
    #13455201 - 11/08/10 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Stupid kid... I hope she finds out what real chores are like with her new "family"

On the face of it, with nothing more than the information from the article, the parents did nothing wrong, unless you view "chores" for children as wrong.

Now if they were cultivating brugmansia, that would be a different story. The cannabis posed no health risks to the children as say, a rose bush (thorns) or brugmansia (poisonous) would.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13455396 - 11/08/10 06:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place  the blame.  I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.






how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.

If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.

Perhaps she'll be better for it




Why don't you read the whole thread before you jump in.  And the grow was legal - the parents had a medical permit.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: orison]
    #13455414 - 11/08/10 06:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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SS Officers.. There is a Jew in my parents basement..
I hope they give her a medal..







BWARHAHAHAHA :laugh2:

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
    #13455424 - 11/08/10 06:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place  the blame.  I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.






how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.

If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.

Perhaps she'll be better for it




Why don't you read the whole thread before you jump in.  And the grow was legal - the parents had a medical permit.




I actually read the whole article. If you had also, you would know that their activity was far from "legal" according to the witness/victim, and a sweep of the house. Why dont you read the article before jumping in

just as a note, involving your children in illegal activity should never be considered "right" by any stretch. Im no snitch, but if thats how your going to raise kids then you shouldnt have them in the first place.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13455459 - 11/08/10 07:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I actually read the whole article. If you had also, you would know that their activity was far from "legal" according to the witness/victim. Why dont you read the article before jumping in




The article had very little real (read: facts) information that could be considered damning.  If you want to go the word of a thirteen year old without questioning the motive or considering the consequences then go for it.  You might also want to consider a career in journalism.  I hear they need people like you.

If you actually want to have a discussion read all of my posts to this thread.  The ones where I said that if something shady was going on, then the parents were in the wrong would be pertinent. 

Until then I will ignore you.



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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
    #13455465 - 11/08/10 07:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

spoken like a true straw man


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13455476 - 11/08/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

They were shitty parents for involving their children in dealing drugs, but the kid was an asshole for ratting her parents out.  Unless they were really shitty parents she is going to regret this.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13455521 - 11/08/10 07:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Whatever man.  I've made my arguments and I don't want to waste any more time on this. 

Sorry you got to the party late and there are only fat chicks left.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: fapjack]
    #13456363 - 11/08/10 09:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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They were shitty parents for involving their children in dealing drugs, but the kid was an asshole for ratting her parents out.  Unless they were really shitty parents she is going to regret this.




I didn't see anything in that article to indicate the children were involved in the dealing of drugs, only the production of medication.

Whether the father sold to some friends does not apply, in my opinion. It still didn't involve the children in dealing. Production and dealing are two separate things.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: orison]
    #13457189 - 11/09/10 12:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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SS Officers.. There is a Jew in my parents basement..
I hope they give her a medal..




:laugh2:
don't farmers make their kids help? stupid little girl.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #13458771 - 11/09/10 12:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ungrateful brat!  What I wouldn't give to have been schooled on such a grand old pasttime growing up :tongue2:


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Doc_T]
    #13458908 - 11/09/10 01:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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That's a big grow, they shouldn't have had kids there in the first place.



No kidding. The teachers probably got the cops to talk to her because of smelling like marijuana always and she probably confessed under pressure.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
    #13461850 - 11/10/10 12:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Actually I have to speak up in this one Because I actually knew the family a few years ago (was a neighbor and friend for a short time. I am still friends with the wife's brother and family as well)

That being said SOME of what the kids have reported has been extreme and slightly elaborated BUT most is true..... and NO it was not a happy home as most would think...These children were not only FORCED to tend the garden but if they complained they were punished as well, and this was 3-4 years ago so the children were much younger then obviously. There is much more to this story then what meets the eye so please don't judge these kids, they really just need some love and attention. 

I being a parent as well as a Medical Marijuana Patient could NEVER see myself involving my 8 year old in tending to my medication. This is not to say it is kept secret from her either but its not something she needs to be involved in until shit is older and I don't feel that it would be acceptable before the age of 16. Children need to be allowed to be children while they can be.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: HighPotNess]
    #13462284 - 11/10/10 04:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can understand you guys being all morally conflicted about weed.

Still, you're trying to side with a kid about DOING CHORES IN A FUCKING HOUSE.

Weed gets you high, obviously.  I'm glad no one missed that.  Tomatoes nourish you; tobacco gets you high as well.  You don't think kids work tobacco farms?  You don't think kids grow up in that industry and become moguls?

If the kid doesn't want to do chores, get the fuck out of the house.  NO parent has an obligation to provide for a child past childbirth, and no kid has the right to shirk their responsibilities, whatever those assigned responsibilities might be, without choosing to leave.  And that "choice to leave" should always be an option.

Chores are fucking chores man.  I wouldn't personally have my kids tend the weed garden; there is tons of stuff to do in a house that doesn't involve weed; still, these parents did choose to do that.  I want to reiterate that in doing so they did *nothing* wrong whatsoever.

HIghPotNess - I don't know if you're familiar with CPS and foster homes.  If all those kids needed was love and attention they should have sat their parents down and had an honest chat with them; formed a unified strike; whatever they needed to do.

I guarantee that if they were living at 60% happiness before, they are down to 10-15.  If they don't get molested, or physically abused, or verbally abused, or emotionally abused (other kids getting more stuff than them), or split up into different families; no matter if any of that happens, their biological parents who care about them more than anyone else in the world for obvious reasons will not be seeing them for a long time.

These kids will have a horrible next 5-10 years.  They will always regret this decision.  I can't see anything else happening.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Humility]
    #13462987 - 11/10/10 08:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I can understand you guys being all morally conflicted about weed.

Still, you're trying to side with a kid about DOING CHORES IN A FUCKING HOUSE.

Weed gets you high, obviously.  I'm glad no one missed that.  Tomatoes nourish you; tobacco gets you high as well.  You don't think kids work tobacco farms?  You don't think kids grow up in that industry and become moguls?

If the kid doesn't want to do chores, get the fuck out of the house.  NO parent has an obligation to provide for a child past childbirth, and no kid has the right to shirk their responsibilities, whatever those assigned responsibilities might be, without choosing to leave.  And that "choice to leave" should always be an option.

Chores are fucking chores man.  I wouldn't personally have my kids tend the weed garden; there is tons of stuff to do in a house that doesn't involve weed; still, these parents did choose to do that.  I want to reiterate that in doing so they did *nothing* wrong whatsoever.

HIghPotNess - I don't know if you're familiar with CPS and foster homes.  If all those kids needed was love and attention they should have sat their parents down and had an honest chat with them; formed a unified strike; whatever they needed to do.

I guarantee that if they were living at 60% happiness before, they are down to 10-15.  If they don't get molested, or physically abused, or verbally abused, or emotionally abused (other kids getting more stuff than them), or split up into different families; no matter if any of that happens, their biological parents who care about them more than anyone else in the world for obvious reasons will not be seeing them for a long time.

These kids will have a horrible next 5-10 years.  They will always regret this decision.  I can't see anything else happening.




That is a rediculously oversimplified and redundent outlook on the whole situation. First, read the post above yours. Second, think about what your saying...

There is a wold of difference between doing chores and tending to a garden od illegal plants. You could harken it more towards young southerners helping their parents manufacture moonshine. No matter how much you try and simplify it, whats happening here is far from "right" or "normal"

Having a little chit-chat with the drug manufacturing parents isnt going to magically fix this familys problems. Your living in a dream world. Some peoples lives are way more rough and complicated then you may be able to comprehend.

This young, 13 year old girl, who was made to be involved in her parents grow operation, was likely FORCED in to having to make the most adult decision she will ever make, solely based on the fact that she is completely fed up with the way her parents conduct the whole familys lives. If you think this little girl hasnt considered that she may not see her parents agin for some time then you havent given her situation second thought.

Again, there is nothing "normal" or "right" about how these people are rasising their extreamly impressionable children. Not only are the parents wrong in every aspect of their actions, but they should be shipped to gitmo and have their genitals mutilated.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13463275 - 11/10/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

OK a few things you MUST know about this case... the kids had tried to talk to there parents Numerous times... BUT living with a man who is abusive and a Mom who is to afraid to stand up is a hard life for the kids, they were not taken to foster homes they were taken to family. The older kids (the wife's kids from a previous relationship) were ridiculed and put down on daily basis, not to mention they were not allowed to have friends even come to the door. I am not trying to "air" these peoples business but its not unfounded like many of you think, its not simply rebellion expected of a teen. I personally watched the emotional abuse that was present 4 years ago, and from what the wife's family has confirmed the abuse has only progresses and even become physical on a few occasions now. Chores are needed my 8 year old has chores, doing dishes, picking up and vacuuming THESE are chores .. tending a garden for medicinal marijuana is not chores its slave labor because they were to lazy to do it themselves. Like I stated there is WAY more to this case then any of you could possibly know.

Parents love their children regardless of what happens GENERALLY.. these two have so much as said "screw the kids if this is how they will act" .. I'm sorry but parents who truly love their kids would 1) not put them in this situation to begin with, and 2) try every possible way to disprove it in some or every way. All the kids were involved in this situation, and what i mean by that is the two older step-kids, the 12 yr old boy, and 13 yr old girl were all involved in making reports .. and the weed was there main focus because the abuse that has been going on in the home is much harder to prove in a court of law (abuse has been reported in the past). It is our jobs as parents to raise our children safely and without fear and these children lived in constant fear of saying the wrong thing and getting smacked around some and that is NO life for these children to be forced to live.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: HighPotNess]
    #13463317 - 11/10/10 10:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You can love your kids and be a shitty human being at the same time.  If what you say is true they were extremely shitty parents and probably shouldn't have even had kids if they didn't want to raise them properly.  Then again, if you took kids away from every shitty parent you would have a lot of orphans.  Not my kids, not my problem.


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