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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454032 - 11/08/10 02:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to make it clear....
It sucks that she narced on her parents, she will probly regret that CPS and jail is going to be much worse than the "crime" any family being torn apart is terrible.
I just wish it had never gotten that far....
there are much smarter ways to cultivate than making your 12yo kids do it
atleast leave them out of it til they are 15-16yo
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13454035 - 11/08/10 02:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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so you do cultivate? why were you scared to say it until now?
Do I even have to bother answering that, or can you figure it out on your own?
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There was nothing to analyze.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454037 - 11/08/10 02:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454042 - 11/08/10 02:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mostly agreed.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13454066 - 11/08/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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People going to jail, card or no card have absolutely nothing to do with how YOU feel about YOURSELF.
Wtf? theres something wrong with thinking cops can take you to jail? i dont get your point
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I never said to tell everybody. I said to tell your friends. I'm sorry for you if you don't feel that you can trust your close friends with the fact that you grow. Although it does explain why you're such a dick when I'm trying to be nice. People without true friends tend to be jerks. Or maybe I stuck a chord that you don't want to hear earlier. Either way...
1st of all you dont live in this town, obviously, and you don't cultivate, what makes you the authority?
you say everyone that cultivates should go around telling all there friends? thats a funny statement, goodluck with that
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Do I even have to bother answering that, or can you figure it out on your own?
well, you said you don't, and you said you do, kinda hard to figure out guy
why are you dancing around the subject? what are you scared of?
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454153 - 11/08/10 02:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, you said you don't, and you said you do, kinda hard to figure out guy
why are you dancing around the subject? what are you scared of?
illegal. What am I scared of? The same thing that you are.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13454159 - 11/08/10 02:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tektonic I think you're confused, and I think that the way you think about cannabis is full of cognitive dissonance. It's clear that you have some serious problems with your perception of cannabis relative to your perception of yourself and those people who are important to you in your life.
All that said; I think you're full of shit man. Who the fuck are you to grow cannabis, talk intimately about the details of it, and then make comments about how you think people who do exactly what you're doing, in the presence of children, are doing something criminal.
You need to get over yourself and start thinking more deeply. You're growing plants. Plants, whether magical (psychotropic) or not, should not be criminalized in a society where we all explicitly tell each other and ourselves that we own ourselves.
You are a hypocrite. You don't think so because you figure you grow cannabis *without* children around. Here's the facts though. You believe that growing cannabis is immoral, or as you phrase is "dirty"; yet you take place in this immoral behavior. You extend your personal feelings of immorality on to other people's situations of growing cannabis and then judge them accordingly.
If you want to feel morally restricted by your own codes, that's fine, but stay out of other people's business. If someone isn't initiating force against someone else, you don't have any business getting involved. To do so makes YOU the initiator, or supporter of the initiation of force.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454165 - 11/08/10 02:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You obviously don't get that feeling that you could go to jail (something you feel could happen to you) is not the same as feeling dirty (something you feel about yourself). I get that you're scared of getting caught exercising your rights... but that has nothing to do with feeling "dirty" about exercising those rights.
I did say friends, but implied "true friends". I have a lot of friends but only one or two true friends. Based on your previous comments, I'm not surprised that you don't know the difference. I never claimed to be an authority, I just have one or two people other than my wife that I trust absolutely. I can tell these people absolutely anything without a second thought. But obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll drop it.
Really though, best of luck. I'm done.
Peace
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Humility]
#13454217 - 11/08/10 03:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get that we see things different, you do u, thats cool
but don't act like u know me 
you're just projecting what you are into paragraphs, has nothing to do with me
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454271 - 11/08/10 03:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I get that we see things different, you do u, thats cool
but don't act like u know me 
you're just projecting what you are into paragraphs, has nothing to do with me 
The things you say aren't consistent and don't make a lot of sense.
Nobody's acting like they know you, they're just talking about the things that you have said.
This is the only thing you have said that I agree with:
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tektonic said: I want to make it clear....
It sucks that she narced on her parents, she will probly regret that CPS and jail is going to be much worse than the "crime" any family being torn apart is terrible.
I just wish it had never gotten that far....
there are much smarter ways to cultivate than making your 12yo kids do it
atleast leave them out of it til they are 15-16yo
The ONLY reason they should have kept the kids separate from the plants is because they should know that the authorities would be more likely to take the kids and keep them away if they have the kids help them grow. Simply being in the presence of marijuana plants and helping take care of them would not do any damage to the kids though.
If I had kids and I wanted to grow I wouldn't involve them, but only because of the legal issues, not because I think it would be ethically wrong or dangerous to them. Ideally, this shouldn't be an issue as long as precautions are taken to make sure the kids aren't consuming any.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454280 - 11/08/10 03:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I have a friend that is still fucked up til today because of shit like this. His parents made him cultivate starting around 9yo, he is 28 now, and still has trust issues that run deeper than the atlantic and he is extremely introverted
don't take it from me, talk to someone who has studied psychological development in humans, and ask them about this article
has anyone here had this happen to them as a child? cause i grew up with someone who did....
so go ahead and keep talking out of your ego's, and i'll keep talking responsibilty for my own actions
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454300 - 11/08/10 03:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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tektonic said: I have a friend that is still fucked up til today because of shit like this. His parents made him cultivate starting around 9yo, he is 28 now, and still has trust issues that run deeper than the atlantic and he is extremely introverted
don't take it from me, talk to someone who has studied psychological development in humans, and ask them about this article
has anyone here had this happen to them as a child? cause i grew up with someone who did....
so go ahead and keep talking out of your ego's, and i'll keep talking responsibilty for my own actions
You're right. All of the damage was caused by the plant. We've got to get this news out! Science NEEDS to know about the dangers to one's mental health that comes from growing plants!
It definitely wasn't his parents abusing him.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Shroomerette]
#13454323 - 11/08/10 03:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's funny how people automatically just think anything regarding weed is 100% good it's so nieve to think that just because you feel a certain way about a plant means it should be ok to force children to cultivate it
get ur head out of ur ass, every situation is different
you guys are just blanketing everything with "pot can do no harm"
water can kill you, guns can save
pot has the same universe as everyone else, it can be abused, as well as be used as a functional tool
if you guys heard anything different, then u read wrong
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13454345 - 11/08/10 03:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea, turns out that kids are sensitive.... who would have thought?
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It definitely wasn't his parents abusing him.
they never hit him....
abuse comes in many forms....
just because some of us whould be good parents while cultivating, doesn't make it a rule
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454387 - 11/08/10 03:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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We (I, at least) are talking about cultivation in a legal environment. You come blazing in here with 'evidence' for your argument that is talking about growing illegally.
legal vs. illegal
Yeah, asking your kids to do something that is morally looked down upon by a lot of people will probably make them unsure and confused. No one is contesting that. In fact, i'm pretty sure that you are the only one who is talking about getting their kids to grow in an illegal manner.
No one is making any blanket statements like 'growing weed cannot possibly hurt the kids' either. We acknowledge that lots of things can.
You seem to think that growing weed in a legal atmosphere would hurt the kids in some way. If it were legal, then no one would care, and the kids wouldn't care. they wouldn't know to care, since it being legal would be all that they know.
Kids cultivating weed will not necessarily hurt them like you seem to imply.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
#13454461 - 11/08/10 03:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Joe Joe said: Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place the blame. I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13454549 - 11/08/10 04:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Joe Joe said: Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place the blame. I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
how can you say that? if you can rationalize this situation to disfavor the 13 year old girl then you've got some fucked up moral priorities.
If i was going through the DARE program and my parents were forcing me to hep them grow illegally it wouldnt even occur to me NOT to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Young people dont have a concept of the bigger picture sometimes, and they certainly shouldnt be blamed for that. She did what she thought was right, and she was right.
Perhaps she'll be better for it
Doubt it.
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
#13454600 - 11/08/10 04:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry if I got personal, or pissed anyone off Allow me to phrase my stance differently:
If I had kids(hypothetically), and cultivated cannabis
I would not hide anything I was doing from them. If my kid asked me "why does that room hum & glow?" I would reply "that's were daddy grows his medicine" & probly show them If they wanted to help, i would let them If they wanted to smoke, i would probly smoke with them (depending on age/legality)
I wouldn't force them to partake in any part of cultivation, at any age. I wouldn't treat cultivation as another chore. I wouldn't smoke in my house if my kids were under 18 I wouldn't send my kids to school smelling like weed under 18 etc...
this specific article struck a nerve with me, i watched something similair happen to my best friend growing up, and the parents were definately the problem
it's terrible to see a family get broken up over cultivation. i wish they would just get a small fine, and a lecture there needs to be reform.
but until then, i don't think it's a good idea to force your 13yo kid to grow your weed
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454615 - 11/08/10 04:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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SS Officers.. There is a Jew in my parents basement.. I hope they give her a medal..
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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
#13454642 - 11/08/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: 64 plants is a commercial grow. I'd bet a dollar there were guns around.
64 plants is hardly commercial. With two of them smoking it doesn't leave much to be sold. Maybe it was the only grow of the year?
What does having a gun around have to do with anything?
lol, you must not grow.....
64 plants @ 4oz per plant = 16 lbs
i've never heard of anyone doing indoor once a year.... thats outdoor friend
pulling 5 crops a years would be 80 lbs......
who the fuck can smoke 80 lbs a year?
You must not grow either, you aren't going to yield 16 pounds off of 64 plants, especially considering a lot of them were probably just clones waiting to be potted or plants being vegged. You aren't yeilding 16 pounds unless you have at least 8 1000s going, I really doubt they had that type of setup in a residence. QP a plant...you must be new here. You could do that if you veg the living shit out of them, but an oz or 2 is a lot more likely.
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