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[WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot
    #13452842 - 11/08/10 09:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Girl, 13, reports parents for pot
November 5, 2010 - heraldnet.com

Police seize 64 plants, and allege the Everett couple involved their children in the growing operation

EVERETT — This burgeoning crop wasn’t homework for horticulture class or an entry for a science fair.

It was a hidden marijuana-growing operation, and police allege the teenaged children living in the home were expected to help tend the crop as part of their chores.

Now, four kids are in the care of state Child Protective Services and an Everett couple is under investigation for possible violation of state drug laws.

The husband and wife were arrested Wednesday and booked into the Snohomish County Jail after detectives from the Snohomish Regional Drug Task Force seized 64 plants from the basement of their north Everett home. No charges have been filed.

The man’s 13-year-old daughter brought the growing operation to the attention of authorities. She told them she was “tired of always smelling like marijuana,” according to the search warrant affidavit.

Reached on the phone Friday, the girl’s father said he was on his way to work out of state and could not talk. He said he would be willing to discuss the case later.

He and his wife had paperwork authorizing them to use and grow marijuana for medical purposes. However, the amount found in the home was at least double what could be considered necessary for their care, said Everett police Lt. Mark St. Clair, a member of the drug task force.

In addition, the couple faces potential trouble for allegedly involving children in growing pot. The search warrant sought evidence that the couple had involved somebody under age 18 in a controlled-substances transaction, something that is prohibited under state law.

It is not unusual to find children living in homes where pot is being grown, St. Clair said.

“Usually we don’t get evidence of information that the children are involved in the grow,” he said.

The girl reported the marijuana operation to school officials, who contacted police. The girl said her responsibilities included mixing the soil with fertilizer, trimming the leaves, watering the plants and to “pot them up,” according to court papers. She also said she believed her dad was selling marijuana to his friends.

The girl said her 12-year-old brother helped her dad tend to the plants more than she did.

An older stepsister told a Child Protective Services worker that her friends aren’t allowed to come to the front door and must wait a block away to meet her. She said she hated growing marijuana and that her dad recently had given her $10 for helping mix potting soil.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: veggie]
    #13452858 - 11/08/10 09:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

In Maine our family's are taught to stay together, and not to trust the NWO at all.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: downlowfunk]
    #13452864 - 11/08/10 09:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That's a big grow, they shouldn't have had kids there in the first place.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: downlowfunk]
    #13452884 - 11/08/10 09:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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In Maine our family's are taught to stay together, and not to trust the NWO at all.




lol, new world order? isnt that beside the point?

Im sure you might feel different if you were a little girl surrounded by illegal activity, and made to be involved in it. Some people are pretty wild.

telling a teacher isnt "alerting the nwo" :shrug:


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13452907 - 11/08/10 09:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think the girl should be drowned.


I'm feeling crankey today though. :megacrankey:

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: veggie]
    #13453032 - 11/08/10 10:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I really doubt the first time she spoke up was to the teachers.
She probly tried to talk to her parents about it and they were being assholes, for a long time
Making your 12 & 13 year old kids do your dirty work is bullshit, thats basically slave labor.
you wanna grow? grow yourself, dont force your little kids to do it.
i'm not saying they should get in as much trouble as they are going to,
but they needed the wake up call, and i salute the girl for not taking shit from her fucked up parents!
fuck these dumb stoner parents, treating their kids like shit, they don't deserve children

sure weed should be legal, but it's not,
and certainly should not be tended to by the slave labor of your own children

if i had 2 kids and 64 plants, they would be separate, i'm not too lazy to trim and water my own plants.....
once the kids got to 16+ if they wanted to be a part, or wanted to smoke, thats chill
but it would be by their choice,
i'm not such a piece of shit that i think everyone should live exactly like me, and do my labor for me

drugs are not sobriety, whether it's alcohol, weed, or meth

imagine if your parents were p.o.s drunks,
and made you and your sister @ 12 & 13 yo distill their liquor for them
just so they could spend more time drinking

would you want to grow up as those kids?

ppl shoud know, don't force your lifestyle onto your kids, unless your last name is manning or smith


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
    #13453042 - 11/08/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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The girl reported the marijuana operation to school officials, who contacted police.




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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Kevin_X2]
    #13453054 - 11/08/10 10:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The 12 year old brother must be pissed. His sister snitching his own family out fucked his life up and all their lives. The mother probably should have swallowed the first kid.

Yea that's a little harsh, but c'mon, when I was 13 that would have been.. AWESOME. We used to sit around in the semi circle dreaming about how great it would be if we could just somehow grow our own weed after buying seedy midgrade weed in the parking lot.

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13453098 - 11/08/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome for you maybe.

Perhaps not every child wants producing an illegal drug to be part of their chores.

Plus.

Who thinks
"hey lets get our kids to help grow the drugs we are illegally producing!"
"Good idea!"

The eventual outcome of this decision was unbelievably obvious.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Heffy]
    #13453307 - 11/08/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Without knowing the actual situation in the house its hard to place  the blame.  I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.
I can imagine a thirteen year old girl pissed at her parents for making her do chores period - not just tending the plants.  She knows that she can get back at her parents by bringing up their pot garden to the school, so what does she do?  Yep.  And here's the result.  Oh, and BTW their grow itself wasn't technically illegal.  Only if they can prove that dad was selling to his friends is it illegal.
When I first read the headline I was thinking of the little kids used to spy on and snitch out their parents in Orwell's 1984...  Parents running around scared of their own kids because the kids can say something to the authorities and get the parents canned.

On the other hand if the parents were being neglectful, or abusive then they had it coming.  But the article doesn't mention any abuse other than making the kid mix dirt and put seedlings into pots.  Also, I can understand not letting friends come over.  Can you imagine what the children's friends' parents would do when their kids came home from  little Susy's house telling them about the weird smell and indoor garden???  Those kids would never be allowed to associate with little Susy ever again.  In that light, little Susy's parents were doing her a solid by helping her to keep her friends. 
Of course kids are stupid and at 13 they start to get rebellious as hell.  They act out to get back at their parents and in this case people freaked out because weed was involved.  I agree with some other comments that little Susy probably regrets opening her big fat trap now that shit has hit the fan.  Hopefully the kids go to a relative and hopefully that relative is more understanding than I would be.  If the kid is repentant, OK, but if not - that kind of treachery would not go unpunished in my house.  (again this is assuming that the only fault of the parents was making their kids do chores that happen to have a stigma attached)

Really though, regardless of how F'ed the situation is, the parents were asking for it by getting unreliable kids involved in the first place.  They should've read 1984...

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: Joe Joe]
    #13453423 - 11/08/10 11:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I agree. I think that she fucked up, and will regret her decision very shortly.

Kids need to be taught the importance of family.  Family comes first.
You lie for your family.  If there is a problem within the family, then it needs to be talked about.
within the family.

You don't betray your family for anything, and they won't betray you in turn.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13453548 - 11/08/10 12:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Family comes first.




Exactly, they should put their children 1st, and cultivation 2nd.


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You don't betray your family for anything, and they won't betray you in turn.




many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return


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  I think it speaks a lot about our society when people automatically point to the parents and not a rebellious 13 year old as the offender.





I think it says something about our society when people automatically think a 13yo girl should have better judgement than her parents...

do you really think the girl's first reaction was to narc? i doubt it
she probly tried to talk to her parents about it for a while, and they probly just got baked & disregarded her

do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no
these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap

if they would have paid any attention, i bet they could have easily stemmed this from happening
or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work

some people wanna be stoners, some people wanna be politicians,
it's upto parents to listen to there children, and make responsible decisions

and besides all that, if you show/tell people about your grow, it will get around
try telling all the 12-13yo kids you know that you grow pot, and see if the cops don't come.....

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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
    #13453600 - 11/08/10 12:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return





I'm really not sure what you're talking about. How would a kid feel betrayed by it? What kind of return does doing chores normally bring? Food on the table? Shelter? maybe an allowance?

My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up... All because she wanted to sit back and look at them!

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All you complaining that they used her for slave labor etc need to wake the hell up. When I was growing up i knew a LOT of foster kids and they were all purchased as slaves. The adoptive families would work em to the bone, make em sleep in the laundry room and cash in on every penny of the "aid" sent by the government.

Poor little susy, she had to trim marijuana. Now she'll live the hard life as will her brother and the rest of her family.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
    #13453601 - 11/08/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return




many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school.
Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give.
many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.

kids are irrational.  Their logic doesn't always make sense.
I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden.
What, you think that there is a difference?  My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent.
You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?

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do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no
these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap



These things DO happen overnight.  She could have been talked to by DARE at her school or something. 
There are news articles on the shroomery where this has happened.  So, yes.  It can happen overnight.
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or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work




Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know. :rolleyes:

This whole thing could have been avoided.  The parents need to listen to their kids, the kids need to realize that work is a part of life.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13453603 - 11/08/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree. I think that she fucked up, and will regret her decision very shortly.

Kids need to be taught the importance of family.  Family comes first.
You lie for your family.  If there is a problem within the family, then it needs to be talked about.
within the family.

You don't betray your family for anything, and they won't betray you in turn.




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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13453632 - 11/08/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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many kids would feel very betrayed by parents forceing them to cultivate drugs for no return




many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school.
Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give.
many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.

kids are irrational.  Their logic doesn't always make sense.
I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden.
What, you think that there is a difference?  My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent.
You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?

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do you really think she acted like everything was wonderfull, and then one day decided to rat? no
these things don't happen over night, kids build contempt until they snap



These things DO happen overnight.  She could have been talked to by DARE at her school or something. 
There are news articles on the shroomery where this has happened.  So, yes.  It can happen overnight.
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or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work




Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know. :rolleyes:

This whole thing could have been avoided.  The parents need to listen to their kids, the kids need to realize that work is a part of life.





Agreed.

I know of a few kids who purposefully lied to authorities saying that their father figure had molested or raped them. All because the kids were angry about chores or punishment.
I'd hardly put it past a little girl to narc out of anger at her parents when it's NOT a lie.


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13453661 - 11/08/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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My Mom used to make me plant rose gardens and other types of flowers for her when I was growing up




roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?

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What kind of return does doing chores normally bring? Food on the table? Shelter? maybe an allowance?




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many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents cause their parents force them to go to school.
Many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for any kind of punishment their parents are forced to give.
many kids feel 'betrayed' by their parents for forcing them to do chores around the house.




that teachs kids the value of hard work, not the exploits of a failed probition
your just making umbrella shaped statments... thats not how the world works
it is what it is.....
weed is weed
roses are roses
kids are kids
parents are parents

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kids are irrational.  Their logic doesn't always make sense.




so why confuse them even more by making them cultivate for you?


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I would consider this the same as me being 'forced' by my parents to help tend to the family food garden.
What, you think that there is a difference?  My parents sold the produce, and I didn't see a damned cent.
You really think that there is a big difference between growing tomatoes, and growing weed?




lol you can buy tomatoes at the store.......
there are no mixed messages with that.......
hard work = food on the table......



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i said that wrong....honestly

regardless..... i think those parents betrayed their children
bringing someone into this world is a little bit more than just having slaves to mix fert for you....
you have a responsibilty to raise those children with morales and values, not send them mixed messages about right & wrong


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    #13453679 - 11/08/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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roses don't get you high kid, you really think parents should be getting 12yo kids high and/or cultivating weed?





That's the point. No where in this article is it even considered that the children were being forced to smoke pot.

So it comes down to the only difference being the species of plant.

Not to mention, in the article, it says she ratted because she was tired of smelling like pot. It doesn't say that they worked her until her hands bled and she was turning them in for abuse.


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    #13453690 - 11/08/10 01:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Right, and don't forget to make sure that you don't give them chores, the kids can't do your dirty work, ya know




lol i forgot that everyone cultivates weed as a part of normal life
i forgot that you can get arrested for cleaning the kitchen
i forgot that whether you are a politician or a stoner, both have the same exact impact on the world
i forgot that 13yo kids are supposed to make rational desicions about stuff they don't like....

must be all the weed i smoke clouding my memory....



were gonna have to agree to disagree, nobody will ever change my views on parents being parents.....
doesn't matter what the circumstance, the parent is the one that should be responsible....
making your 12yo kids cultivate for you is just plain reckless....
it's like making "I Sell Weed" posters with your address on it

parents are supposed to take care of kids, thats just nature guys...


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Re: [WA] Girl, 13, reports parents for pot [Re: tektonic]
    #13453693 - 11/08/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just looking at this from a different perspective.  No abuse was mentioned and the grow was technically legal. 
The only problem was that a kid didn't want to do her chores so she narc'd on her parents. 

I would like to think that my kids will have the common sense to keep their mouths shut and that I'll know if they don't.  I know I wouldn't have gone against my parents at that age.  Of course my parents would have explained the implications of such a rash decision as going to the authorities.

Contempt over having to do chores is no excuse to break your family apart no matter how old you are.  Kids have a lot more sense than you give them credit for - if you teach them how to think things through. 

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if they would have paid any attention, i bet they could have easily stemmed this from happening
or better yet, grow your own buds, don't force your kids to do your dirty work




I agree.  They were probably too self involved and not using common sense to see that their daughter was starting to go into teenage bitch mode.  They also probably didn't bother to tell her what the consequences would be if she opened her yap (ie the ramifications of CPS) But, don't make it sound like they were involving the kids in something more than gardening.  The "dirty work" was legally growing medicine.  If it does turn out that Daddy was selling, then I'll concede a bit - but "dirty work"?  Come on, they were mixing soil and clipping leaves.

Don't get me wrong.  The parents were to blame.  But their failing was not knowing their kids, not educating their kids on the consequences, and being naive enough to think that a medical permit was going to shield them from the backlash of people who view legal cultivation of pot as dirty work.

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