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School is broken!
#13448407 - 11/07/10 01:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to start posting the embarrassments that are the test questions in my college courses.
It's downright dumb, at times depressing. Laden with T/F questions that are vague and opinionated, questions without correct answers, questions with multiple correct answers, and of course liberal application of mispellings, I have lost faith in our education system, and for those of you who are not knee deep in it, maybe seeing what i have to see on a weekly basis will help you understand how backwards this bullshit system is. I learn way more from you guys than any teacher.
(matchin!) 31. A. job description B. employment agencies C. open-ended questions D. references/recent employers E. freelancers F. salaries G. bonus H. $25,900 I. on-the-job training J. promotion
What do you need the permission of a job applicant to check? What are payments for labor or services that are made on an annual basis called? What kind of firms are dedicated to finding employees for businesses? What are people called who provide services to businesses on an hourly basis or by the job? What is a written statement called that lists the duties and responsibilities of a job? What should happen to good employees to help ensure that they remain interested in working for your business? What should you make a list of before you interview a job applicant? If a salesperson sold $370,000 worth of goods in a year and the commission is 7 percent, what is the commission amount? What is a financial reward in addition to a regular wage or salary called? What is it called when employees learn new responsibilities by actually performing them at their place of business?
I WONDER WHICH ANSWER IS CORRECT? 
Okay, that one's not too bad, right- nobody's complaining about freebies! Except that that one free answer isn't going to be worth the entire rest of the test, made up mostly of questions like this:
Detailed job descriptions help you identify your hiring needs and can be used to measure how well an employee performs a job. A) True B) False
I say true, obviously when measuring performance one yardstick is a job description. However, since this doesn't match a page in a book somewhere, the answer is false. So we're starting to get to what I'm trying to touch base with- that school has become a system to indoctrinate us into doing what this piece of paper says rather than what is right. In the process they've made the entire education system so boring it takes every fiber of my existence to pull away from any of the other 100 interesting things I might be doing in a day to spend three hours on this drivel.
Does anyone else feel the same? I've been accused of "amotivational syndrome" and told I need to be put on a drug. Not being motivated to waste time on something so pointless and rhetorical doesn't seem like a medical condition to me.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
#13448441 - 11/07/10 01:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I agree with you, they also teach a lot of outdated information especially in the sciences. I would never complain about them making a test too easy though . I didn't have to deal with a lot of true-false questions in college though, most of me professors preferred multiple choice or free answer. T/F are always tricky.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
#13448445 - 11/07/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah that matching math question is just dumb as fuck. Maybe if there were two it wouldn't be so bad, but it's so out of place and obvious.
I don't see how a job description can provide an idea of how well an employee does the job though, so I may have put false, but maybe by knowing you put true and it was wrong, it conditions my brain to think it's false, but after reading it over a few times, I do think it's false. I mean how can you determine how well an employee will do just based on the job description you wrote for them?
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Shroomerette said: Yeah I agree with you, they also teach a lot of outdated information especially in the sciences. I would never complain about them making a test too easy though . I didn't have to deal with a lot of true-false questions in college though, most of me professors preferred multiple choice or free answer. T/F are always tricky.
The multiple choice is often nearly as bad, since the teachers write the tests and nobody holds them accountable I've found they often contain multiple answers that are correct or could be argued to be the correct answer very easily.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
#13448454 - 11/07/10 01:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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That true and false is true however in one sense because a job description does help identify your hiring needs, but when it comes to true and false, one wrong and a right still doesn't make a right.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
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Shroomerette said: Yeah I agree with you, they also teach a lot of outdated information especially in the sciences. I would never complain about them making a test too easy though . I didn't have to deal with a lot of true-false questions in college though, most of me professors preferred multiple choice or free answer. T/F are always tricky.
The multiple choice is often nearly as bad, since the teachers write the tests and nobody holds them accountable I've found they often contain multiple answers that are correct or could be argued to be the correct answer very easily.
Or put the right answer and then fuck up the answer key so that you have to take your test to them and let them fix the grade in your free time
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I always held them accountable if they had the wrong answer
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
#13448467 - 11/07/10 01:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You wouldn't believe this psychology teacher at my college. The study guide he gave out was printed on paper, and then over what was printed he wrote other stuff going vertically over paragraphs of text, and even diagonally over text, as well as in any little spaces between the paragraphs. He writes so goddamn messy that you can barely read any of it. The next test was a verbal test. He would be calling out the multiple choice, then when he repeated it he might mix up one of the answers with the letters, and tell you the wrong one, or add in or word an answer different. My mother has his class, but if I had him I would have raised a fucking shit storm because of his incompetence.
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Shroomerette said: Yeah I agree with you, they also teach a lot of outdated information especially in the sciences. I would never complain about them making a test too easy though . I didn't have to deal with a lot of true-false questions in college though, most of me professors preferred multiple choice or free answer. T/F are always tricky.
The multiple choice is often nearly as bad, since the teachers write the tests and nobody holds them accountable I've found they often contain multiple answers that are correct or could be argued to be the correct answer very easily.
Or put the right answer and then fuck up the answer key so that you have to take your test to them and let them fix the grade in your free time 
Or how about "Oh sorry I lost this large assignment and even though this is an online course and right there is a record that is was uploaded on X date at X time I am still claiming you never turned it in just because I can and don't want to admit I'm wrong"
It feels like I'm a serf and the Earl of my township is punishing me for humiliating him 
Because how can you possibly wrong, you're older than me. Surely, when you went to school decades ago, they taught you a plethora of knowledge no longer available and that makes your generation unquestionably correct, always.
It's the attidute more than anything. I am an adult, I work 3 jobs, like it or not- treat me like one. Or I will be pissed.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: blujay]
#13448484 - 11/07/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had one that would lock the door at the exact minute the class started and if you were late he wouldn't let you in. And if you had your homework with you but didn't already have it on his desk when he locked the door he wouldn't let you turn it in. That guy was a bastard.
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Shroomerette said: I had one that would lock the door at the exact minute the class started and if you were late he wouldn't let you in. And if you had your homework with you but didn't already have it on his desk when he locked the door he wouldn't let you turn it in. That guy was a bastard.
I'd be the dude on the outside super gluing the door shut to fuck with them.
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Shroomerette said: I had one that would lock the door at the exact minute the class started and if you were late he wouldn't let you in. And if you had your homework with you but didn't already have it on his desk when he locked the door he wouldn't let you turn it in. That guy was a bastard.
I'd be the dude on the outside super gluing the door shut to fuck with them.
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Shroomerette said: I had one that would lock the door at the exact minute the class started and if you were late he wouldn't let you in. And if you had your homework with you but didn't already have it on his desk when he locked the door he wouldn't let you turn it in. That guy was a bastard.
I'd be the dude on the outside super gluing the door shut to fuck with them.

If I can't learn, you're going to learn...FOREVER!
And be stuck with his dumb ass.
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I just had an 80 question T/F exam and the lowest grade was a 48, Average was 78 and the top score was a 100.
I scored 80 :p
but I thought it was sad, you have a 50% chance with T/F and someone still managed to score less than a 50
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Maybe they only did half of the questions and then fell asleep
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but I thought it was sad, you have a 50% chance with T/F and someone still managed to score less than a 50
I don't quite think you have your head around the maths.
It's just as probable to score below 50 as it is to score above 50.
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Re: School is broken! [Re: Chubba]
#13448754 - 11/07/10 02:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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but I thought it was sad, you have a 50% chance with T/F and someone still managed to score less than a 50
I don't quite think you have your head around the maths.
It's just as probable to score below 50 as it is to score above 50.
How do you manage to know 0 answers on a test though...
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How do you manage to know 0 answers on a test though...
Easy, you know 0 answers 
I've done it multiple times on subjects I've already decided to withdraw from before penalties... smoke a joint, drink some beer then go into a 2 hour exam and smash it out as quickly as possible then just draw doodles till you're allowed to leave (usually 1/2 time).
All but one of the times this has failed but one specific subject I received ~60% from that first test, ended up not withdrawing and completing the subject that semester.
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