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Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War
#13435286 - 11/04/10 06:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War November 4, 2010 - Jakarta Globe
Jakarta - The Jakarta Police are considering handing narcotics producers and traffickers hefty fines rather than locking them up, arguing that imprisonment did not appear to be an effective deterrent and was getting too costly for the state.
Jakarta Police chief Insp. Gen. Sutarman said that fines and confiscation of property were believed to be better strategies for dealing with drug-related crime, both by users and traffickers.
“All money they’ve got should be confiscated by the state. They don’t need to be put in prison. Since they don’t have money anymore, they won’t be able to buy [drugs] again.” Sutarman said.
Speaking at a coordination meeting on drug abuse, he said that the money taken from offenders could be used for preventing drug abuse.
“And we do not have to provide health services, a place to stay and food [for drug offenders in jail]. The money we save can be used for preventive measures, such as educating society,” he said.
Only when a drug trafficker cannot pay the fine would he go to jail, he added.
Sutarman said jails were overcrowded and that more than 40 percent of capacity was taken up by drug offenders.
“If jails are already full and people who violate the law are also set to become a burden for the state, why don’t we change this? I think we need a strategic decision, to be taken by the government and the legislature,” he said.
Prison sentences, he said, appeared ineffective in stopping drug traffickers and producers, as statistics showed that the number of drug-related cases is continuing to climb.
“We can see that drug abuse cases rise year after year — involving users, traffickers and producers,” he said.
“Our understanding of the problem would have to be taken to a different level,” the police chief said, adding that courts should differentiate users with traffickers and producers.
“A drug user is indeed an offender, but he is a victim too, because he has to keep on buying and using, turning him into a slave. Thus, there should be a differentiation in the handling of these victims,” he said.
According to Sutarman, it would be much wiser if drug users were not put in jail but in a rehabilitation center, which is currently not an option. “
Many of the people crowding the jails are in fact users,” he said.
To differentiate users from dealers, Sutarman proposed to looking at the amount of drugs found on the person, as users usually consume the drugs immediately after purchase.
The amount allowable for users would be around 0.5 of a gram, he said.
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PreparationH
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Re: Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War [Re: veggie]
#13435401 - 11/04/10 06:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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holy shit, indonesia is about to bypass the USA WTF. Still retarded to even fine them but christ, gimmie a fine over prison any day.
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Re: Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War [Re: PreparationH]
#13435449 - 11/04/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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agreed ide rather a fine then jail, i rather it just be legal and the world would be 1 step closer to peace
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Re: Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War [Re: littleton]
#13436044 - 11/04/10 08:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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most high school students think capitalism is a form of goverment
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Re: Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War [Re: Konyap]
#13436872 - 11/05/10 12:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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There were several good points made by the police, such as the one that prison sentences seem ineffective. But this caught my eye:
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“All money they’ve got should be confiscated by the state. They don’t need to be put in prison. Since they don’t have money anymore, they won’t be able to buy [drugs] again.” Sutarman said.
Remember Indonesia has a VERY corrupt government. Whatever money they confiscate will line the pockets of politicians and others who scam off the state's coffers.
Also, if you were quite poor and the government took away all your money, wouldn't you most likely turn to crime to survive?
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Re: Indonesian Police Say Jail Cells No Help in Drug War [Re: Green_T]
#13437985 - 11/05/10 10:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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"They don’t need to be put in prison."
In many cases...Check.
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"Since they don’t have money anymore, they won’t be able to buy [drugs] again.”

to Green, same here...
A) Govt.'s love filling their pockets
B) Being broke (I.e. just after release, just after police confiscated every dollar to my name, etc.) I never had any trouble "getting back on my feet" as it were. If this were my government/pigs and they had told ME this, I'd have laughed and shook their hands.
Edited by Dutchie3k (11/05/10 10:18 AM)
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