| Home | Community | Message Board |
|
You are not signed in. Sign In New Account | Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery » |
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.
|
| Shop: |
| |||||||
|
Registered: 10/02/08 Posts: 4,042 Loc: UK |
| ||||||
|
Disclaimer: I've taken this act from http://youthfederation.com/cchhi
and I will fix it and give you credit.-------------------- Quote: ^No person or company shall get any type of fine or punishment for possession, cultivation, transport, distribution or selling of cannabis in any shape or form. Cannabis is defined in several ways, which are explained later and I have summarized below (a) Cannabis hemp industrial products = industrial hemp (plastics, fuel, etc.) (b) Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations = medicinal marijuana (to treat HIV, MS, etc.) (c) Cannabis hemp nutritional products = edible marijuana, low THC (e.g. hemp oil) (c) Cannabis hemp religious and spiritual products = marijuana for spiritual use (d) Cannabis hemp recreational and euphoric use and products = marijuana for recreational use Quote: ^This bill discusses Hemp, and cannabis, and refers to any species of the plant and any product from it. Quote: ^"Cannabis Hemp Industrial Products" is defined as cannabis products that are not for human consumption. Quote: ^ "Cannabis Hemp Medicinal Preparations" is cannabis which is used to treat any disease or ailment. Quote: ^"Cannabis hemp nutritional products" refers to hemp made for eating (excluding intoxication) Quote: ^"Cannabis hemp euphoric products" means cannabis which does not fall under the other categories. This falls under the umbrella of personal use and spiritual use. This is the cannabis that gets you high. Quote: ^Personal use means use by anyone over 21, excluding sale. Quote: ^Commercial production means production for legal sale or profit Quote: ^INDUSTRIAL hemp farmers/producers/processors/dis Quote: ^Medicinal cannabis will be officially recognized as medicine and any physician can prescribe it as they would any other medication. There will be no tax on medicinal cannabis. Quote: ^People who grow, transport, distribute, or use recreational cannabis will not need a permit, license, or tax. This only applies to non-commercial cultivation (i.e. personal) Quote: ^Testing for metabolites shall not be required for employment or insurance. It will not be used to consider employment, impairment, or current intoxication Quote: ^? can anyone clear this up? me if you can and I will edit.Quote: ^Use of cannabis for religious/spiritual use will be considered a protected right. Continued in next post
| |||||||
|
Registered: 10/02/08 Posts: 4,042 Loc: UK |
| ||||||
|
Continued...
Quote: ^Commerce for "euphoric" cannabis will be done the same way as with alcohol. Up to 99 flowering female plants, 12 pounds of bud (not leaf) per adult 21 or older is considered personal use. Quote: ^It will be legal to make, market, distribute, or sell (to adults) anything used in growing, storing, selling, extracting, using, etc. with respect to cannabis. I.e. headshops, grow lights, grinders, bongs, will be legal. No more "tobacco use only" Quote: ^No CA cops or funds will be used to assist the feds for things which would now be legal in CA. Quote: ^Any person who denies people the rights in this document is guilty of a misdemeanor. ( I think this means a city official can’t require special licenses, or a cop can't prevent you from buying cannabis etc.) Quote: ^Any law that contradicts this bill will be invalidated Quote: ^Anyone who is in jail/probation for anything marijuana related which is non-violent and now legal will be freed. All criminal records for anything non-violent and now legal will be cleared/deleted (see below) Quote: ^Upon passage of the act, a 1- page application for destruction of personal records will be produced by the attorney general. One will be able to fill the form, pay $10, file it with the superior court, and then the court will decide if it is to be destroyed. After it is destroyed, you can truthfully say you were never arrested or convicted for anything which is now legal under the act. This means if you got caught growing 99 plants or had 12 pounds of weed, upon release you could file a form and pay $10 for your record to be cleared/destroyed. Then you could say (i.e. on job applications) that you were never arrested for anything marijuana-related. Quote: ^The legislature is allowed to enact applications for license shops to sell euphoric cannabis to people over 21. License or permit fees for commercial production/distribution/(use?) will not exceed $1000 Quote: ^All combined taxes will not be greater than $10 an ounce. Quote: ^The legislature will determine a performance test for current intoxication (i.e. being high). If you are intoxicated, you cannot drive, use heavy machinery, or do anything else which might be dangerous to the public. Quote: Enclosed and/or restricted places probably refers to “coffeeshops”, or other smoking venues. Coffeeshops will be regulated. This does not imply that you can't smoke in the street (the street is not a restricted public place) - Thanks to AlexD for clearing this up. Quote: ^Any federal prohibitions which conflict with the act will be repudiated. 10th amendment states that rights not determined in the constitution are left to the states, and to the people. Quote: ^If something needs to be taken out of the act (i.e. is found invalid by any court - CA courts only?), only that part is changed/removed and the rest of the act still stands. This means if parts of the act are removed, the rest is still valid. Quote: ^If an initiative is voted on that challenges a part of the act, the rest of the act still stands. Quote: ^This needs to be legal already! -------------------- "I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" - Thomas Jefferson Legalize Meth | Drug War Victims Edited by Green_T (11/05/10 03:30 AM)
| |||||||
|
Registered: 10/02/08 Posts: 4,042 Loc: UK |
| ||||||
|
NOTE: The aim of this post is to provide a discussion and some analysis of bill as a whole. I have saved this space so the main points can be seen by new viewers, without having to wade through all the posts. I encourage anyone to post, and I will add their points to the FAQ, especially if it counters those which I have come up with myself to encourage balanced discussion. Credit will be acknowledged.
I have split this discussion and analysis into 2 sections: factual and speculative. The factual section is based directly on the text and what can be inferred from it. The speculative is mere speculation – but I will try to keep it reasonable. FACTUAL ANALYSIS Most people are probably wondering how this bill is different from prop 19. It is radically different, so I will try to answer the questions by comparing them. How many plants am I allowed to grow? One can have up to 99 plants growing simultaneously, and still have it considered “personal use”. This differs from prop 19’s 25 sq foot area limit. You will not need a license or permit to grow for personal use. Production of 12 pounds of bud (not leaves, stalks, etc) per year per person is considered personal use. I live near a school. Will I be allowed to grow? The bill does not mention anything which specifically mentions this. If there are laws which restrict growing near schools, then this law may not directly conflict with it. That means the law will still stand, and you won’t be able to grow. Will I be allowed to smoke on the street, or at festivals, or on the beach, etc? There is nothing in the bill which restricts smoking to private locations. Wherever one is allowed to smoke a cigarette, one would be allowed to smoke cannabis. This differs from prop 19, which restricted use to private locations. What difference does this make to medical marijuana patients? Patients who qualify for medical marijuana will be granted a tax exemption from buying their cannabis (which is capped at $10 an ounce). Any doctor will be allowed to prescribe. Also, medicinal cannabis can be prescribed to those under 21. Will “coffeeshops” be allowed, and is it possible for my town to ban them? Coffeeshops are explicitly mentioned in the bill, and they will be regulated. Your town may be able to ban them based on zoning regulations, like they can adult video stores, bars, unsightly buildings, etc. When will this be on the ballot? This is an initiative of the http://youthfederation.com/gathe SPECULATIVE ANALYSIS What are the anti-CCHHI crowd likely to attack? 1) Driving under the influence. This is a favorite of prohibitionists. Although the bill does explicitly ban driving under the influence, it requests the state to come up with a test that is not based on metabolites (i.e. a way to measure current impairment). There are no accurate tests for this, so how this will happen is up to debate. 2) Inability to drug test employees. This bill explicitly states that people cannot be denied employment for failing a drug test. This will be a source of fear-mongering. 3) Applicability to the whole state/feds. Since this bill changes state law without the discretion of the counties, it is easier for the feds to challenge. Is this bill good for “the small time farmer”? This is difficult to answer. This bill would allow for large companies and boutique growers, much like the beer industry. But what about the farmer who currently grows? On one hand, they might lose a lot of money due to the drop in price due to a legitimate market. On the other hand, they will be able to sell more directly to the consumer, which might mean they could get more money on the wholesale value. Is this bill good for operating dispensaries? Dispensaries make a lot of money on the illegality of cannabis, so they might stand to lose. However, they are at an advantage in the sense that they could convert to coffeeshops. They will already have cornered part of their local cannabis market, and could exploit it. What do you think are things that lower the bill’s chance of passage? 99 plants and 12 pounds of bud per person/year will be a point of contention when it comes to the bill. Prohibitionists were saying that prop 19 would allow for thousands of “joints per year” so they will have a field day with this figure. Personally, I think most recreational (as opposed to medical) smokers consume less than 16 ounces per month. If this were dropped to 2 ounces a month (1.5 pounds/year) it might allay some fears without restricting rights. Since people would assume 12 pounds is a lot, they will most certainly say people are going to sell to kids. Another point is the section near the end where it says that anyone who has previously been arrested would be freed and be able to petition for a pardon. I think this is great, obviously, but reduces the bill’s chance of passage dramatically. This will be a fear-mongering point for sure. I think this should be taken out of the bill and passed as a separate initiative. There is a much lower tax on this than compared to prop 19. How will this affect passage? Even though the tax is reduced, that shouldn’t make the bill less appealing to the voter. Even with prop 19’s higher taxes, people knew it wouldn’t solve California’s budget crises. People knew the tax revenue received would be small, and although tax generations were cited as a “plus”, people were not voting just to get tax money from it. DISCUSSION: While prop 19 dangled exciting tax incentives for the voter, CCHHI is based more on civil rights. CCHHI seems like the “ideal” bill for me, and reflects how cannabis should be treated. There is a clear distinction between hemp and cannabis, and no “sin tax” on the latter. Edited by Green_T (11/05/10 05:59 AM)
| |||||||
|
Lord Cephalopod is Reborn! Registered: 04/28/10 Posts: 1,348 Last seen: 11 years, 10 months |
| ||||||
|
awesome thread, I look forward to reading your FAQ and analysis.
| |||||||
| |||||||
| Shop: |
|
| Similar Threads | Poster | Views | Replies | Last post | ||
![]() |
The Drug War According to Dr. Mengele | 4,278 | 14 | 09/16/05 03:11 AM by Pirate_Patrick |
| Extra information | ||
| You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled Moderator: Entire Staff 1,526 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 1 web crawlers are browsing this forum. [ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ] | ||

and I will fix it and give you credit.

