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5-HT2A

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Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show
#13425951 - 11/02/10 09:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry everybody. 
LINK --- http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/11/prop-19-headed-to-defeat-exit-polls-show.html
By: Anthony York
California voters appear to have rejected Prop. 19, an effort to legalize marijuana and allow local governments to tax the sale of the drug.
Prop. 19 received national attention, but relatively little money was spent on the campaign. While millions of dollars was spent on other ballot measures, the Prop. 19 campaign was modest by California political standards. Still, no issue received more attention around the state.
The measure was opposed by law enforcement groups and elected officials from both political parties.
U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder had said the Obama administration would "vigorously enforce" federal drug laws against Californians who grow or sell marijuana for recreational use even if voters passed the legalization measure.
The Times is projecting Proposition 19's defeat based on preliminary information from the National Voter Pool survey, conducted for The Times by Edison Research. The National Voter Pool is a consortium of the major television news networks and the Associated Press. The survey was conducted at 50 polling places among roughly 2,200 election day voters and was supplemented by a telephone survey of roughly 600 voters who cast ballots by mail.
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mukhail
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13425956 - 11/02/10 09:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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fuck
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Shroomerette
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: mukhail]
#13425957 - 11/02/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exit polls lie, don't give up hope!
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TheShroomJew23
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13425960 - 11/02/10 09:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was rejected because too many people make all their yearly income from the very fact that marijuana is illegal. I could have said this would fail from the beginning.
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Shroomerette
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#13425966 - 11/02/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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They only sampled 2800 people out of how many voters?
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Shroomerette]
#13425973 - 11/02/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Every one should have known-really
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BirdsIView
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Shroomerette]
#13425980 - 11/02/10 09:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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2012.
The world may end but weed will be legal.
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puff4200
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: BirdsIView] 1
#13425995 - 11/02/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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it is a sad sad day
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3rd Eye
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: BirdsIView]
#13426004 - 11/02/10 09:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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It looks like California's economy is going down the drain. Their loss. I'm kind of glad California doesn't have control over weed. It would be taxed way too much.
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13426023 - 11/02/10 09:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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This post suxx here is the link to official prop 19 vote: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/individual/#CAI01 it's only 10% and losing but by 6% so why jump the gun!!!
Yes to Prop 19!
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: DahuiHeeNalu]
#13426042 - 11/02/10 10:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i can see it going either way, but with a close vote people should take exit polls with less salt than normally.
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 2859558484]
#13426060 - 11/02/10 10:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck
At least prop 203 is looking closer
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: King Ebenezer]
#13426065 - 11/02/10 10:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Jack Herer Cannabis Hemp Initiative 2012
AN ACT TO AMEND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF CALIFORNIA:
I. Add Section 11362.6 to the Health and Safety Code of California, any laws or policies to the contrary notwithstanding:
1. No person, individual, or corporate entity shall be arrested or prosecuted, be denied any right or privilege, nor be subject to any criminal or civil penalties for the possession, cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp marijuana, including: (a) Cannabis hemp industrial products. (b) Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations. (c) Cannabis hemp nutritional products. (d) Cannabis hemp religious and spiritual products. (e) Cannabis hemp recreational and euphoric use and products.
2. Definition of terms: (a) The terms "cannabis hemp" and “cannabis hemp marijuana” mean the natural, non-genetically modified plant hemp, cannabis, marihuana, marijuana, cannabis sativa L, cannabis Americana, cannabis chinensis, cannabis indica, cannabis ruderalis, cannabis sativa, or any variety of cannabis, including any derivative, concentrate, extract, flower, leaf, particle, preparation, resin, root, salt, seed, stalk, stem, or any product thereof. (b) The term "cannabis hemp industrial products" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are not designed or intended for human consumption, including, but not limited to: clothing, building materials, paper, fiber, fuel, lubricants, plastics, paint, seed for cultivation, animal feed, veterinary medicine, oil, or any other product that is not designed for internal human consumption; as well as cannabis hemp plants used for crop rotation, erosion control, pest control, weed control, or any other horticultural or environmental purposes, for example, the reversal of the Greenhouse Effect and toxic soil reclamation. (c) The term "cannabis hemp medicinal preparations" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are designed, intended, or used for human consumption for the treatment of any human disease or condition, for pain relief, or for any healing purpose, including but not limited to the treatment or relief of: Alzheimer's and pre-Alzheimer's disease, stroke, arthritis, asthma, cramps, epilepsy, glaucoma, migraine, multiple sclerosis, nausea, premenstrual syndrome, side effects of cancer chemotherapy, fibromyalgia, sickle cell anemia, spasticity, spinal injury, stress, easement of post-traumatic stress disorder, Tourette syndrome, attention deficit disorder, immunodeficiency, wasting syndrome from AIDS or anorexia; use as an antibiotic, antibacterial, anti-viral, or anti-emetic; as a healing agent, or as an adjunct to any medical or herbal treatment. Mental conditions not limited to bipolar, depression, attention deficit disorder, or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, shall be conditions considered for medical use. (d) The term "cannabis hemp nutritional products" means cannabis hemp for consumption by humans and animals as food, including but not limited to: seed, seed protein, seed oil, essential fatty acids, seed cake, dietary fiber, or any preparation or extract thereof. (e) The term "cannabis hemp euphoric products" means cannabis hemp intended for personal recreational or religious use, other than cannabis hemp industrial products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, or cannabis hemp nutritional products. (f) The term "personal use" means the internal consumption of cannabis hemp by people 21 years of age or older for any relaxational, meditative, religious, spiritual, recreational, or other purpose other than sale. (g) The term "commercial production" means the production of cannabis hemp products for sale or profit under the conditions of these provisions.
3. Industrial cannabis hemp farmers, manufacturers, processors, and distributors shall not be subject to any special zoning requirement, licensing fee, or tax that is excessive, discriminatory, or prohibitive.
4. Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations are hereby restored to the list of available medicines in California. Licensed physicians shall not be penalized for, nor restricted from, prescribing or recommending cannabis hemp for medical purposes to any patient, regardless of age. No tax shall be applied to prescribed cannabis hemp medicinal preparations. Medical research shall be encouraged. No recommending physician shall be subject to any professional licensing review or hearing as a result of recommending or approving medical use of cannabis hemp marijuana.
5. Personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products. (a) No permit, license, or tax shall be required for the non-commercial cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp. (b) Testing for inactive and/or inert residual cannabis metabolites shall not be required for employment or insurance, nor be considered in determining employment, other impairment, or intoxication. (c) When a person falls within the conditions of these exceptions, the offense laws do not apply and only the exception laws apply.
6. Use of cannabis hemp products for religious or spiritual purposes shall be considered an inalienable right; and shall be protected by the full force of the State and Federal Constitutions.
7. Commerce in cannabis hemp euphoric products shall be limited to adults, 21 years of age and older, and shall be regulated in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. For the purpose of distinguishing personal from commercial production, 99 flowering female plants and 12 pounds of dried, cured cannabis hemp flowers, bud, not leaf, produced per adult, 21 years of age and older, per year shall be considered as being for personal use.
8. The manufacture, marketing, distribution, or sales between adults of equipment or accessories designed to assist in the planting, cultivation, harvesting, curing, processing, packaging, storage, analysis, consumption, or transportation of cannabis hemp plants, industrial cannabis hemp products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, cannabis hemp nutritional products, cannabis hemp euphoric products, or any cannabis hemp product shall not be prohibited.
9. No California law enforcement personnel or funds shall be used to assist or aid and abet in the enforcement of Federal cannabis hemp marijuana laws involving acts which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California.
10. Any person who threatens the enjoyment of these provisions is guilty of a misdemeanor. The maximum penalties and fines of a misdemeanor may be imposed.
II. Repeal, delete, and expunge any and all existing statutory laws that conflict with the provisions of this initiative.
1. Enactment of this initiative shall include: amnesty, immediate release from prison, jail, parole, and probation, and clearing, expungement, and deletion of all criminal records for all persons currently charged with, or convicted of any non-violent cannabis hemp marijuana offenses included in this initiative which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. People who fall within this category that triggered an original sentence are included within this provision.
2. Within 60 days of the passage of this Act, the Attorney General shall develop and distribute a one-page application, providing for the destruction of all cannabis hemp marijuana criminal records in California for any such offense covered by this Act. Such forms shall be distributed to district and city attorneys and made available at all police departments in the State to persons hereby affected. Upon filing such form with any Superior Court and a payment of a fee of $10.00, the Court shall liberally construe these provisions to benefit the defendant in furtherance of the amnesty and dismissal provision of this section. Upon the Court's ruling under this provision the arrest record shall be set aside and be destroyed. Such persons may then truthfully state that they have never been arrested or convicted of any cannabis hemp marijuana related offense which is hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. This shall be deemed to be a finding of factual innocence under California Penal Code Section 851.8 et seq.
III. The legislature is authorized upon thorough investigation, to enact legislation using reasonable standards to:
1. License concessionary establishments to distribute cannabis hemp euphoric products in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. Sufficient community outlets shall be licensed to provide reasonable commercial access to persons of legal age, so as to discourage and prevent the misuse of, and illicit traffic in, such products. Any license or permit fee required by the State for commercial production, distribution or use shall not exceed $1,000.00.
2. Place an excise tax on commercial sale of cannabis hemp euphoric products, analogous to California's wine industry model, so long as no excise tax or combination of excise taxes shall exceed $10.00 per ounce. 3. Determine an acceptable and uniform standard of impairment based on performance testing, to restrict persons impaired by cannabis hemp euphoric products from operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery, or otherwise engaging in conduct that may affect public safety.
4. Regulate the personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products in enclosed and/or restricted public places.
IV. Pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the people of California hereby repudiate and challenge Federal cannabis hemp marijuana prohibitions that conflict with this Act.
V. Severability: If any provision of this Act, or the application of any such provision to any person or circumstance, shall be held invalid by any court, the remainder of this Act, to the extent it can be given effect, or the application of such provisions to persons or circumstances other than those as to which it is held invalid, shall not be affected thereby, and to this end the provisions of this Act are severable.
VI. Construction: If any rival or conflicting initiative regulating any matter addressed by this act receives the higher affirmative vote, then all non-conflicting parts shall become operative.
VII. Purpose of Act: This Act is an exercise of the police powers of the State for the protection of the safety, welfare, health, and peace of the people and the environment of the State, to protect the industrial and medicinal uses of cannabis hemp, to eliminate the unlicensed and unlawful cultivation, selling, and dispensing of cannabis hemp; and to encourage temperance in the consumption of cannabis hemp euphoric products. It is hereby declared that the subject matter of this Act involves, in the highest degree, the ecological, economic, social, and moral well-being and safety of the State and of all its people. All provisions of this Act shall be liberally construed for the accomplishment of these purposes: to respect human rights, to promote tolerance, and to end cannabis hemp prohibition.
Read more: hxxp://www.myspace.com/calhemp#ixzz14542W81v
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EdgeChaos
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 3rd Eye]
#13426112 - 11/02/10 10:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
3rd Eye said: It looks like California's economy is going down the drain. Their loss. I'm kind of glad California doesn't have control over weed. It would be taxed way too much.
It can't/won't be taxed to more than it is currently priced or else people just use the black market instead.
Plus, most of the risk would be removed and someones risk is what inflates the price now.
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travelleler
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: EdgeChaos]
#13426132 - 11/02/10 10:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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whatever man--- I just checked and it was 46% yes 56% no but they have yet to process San Diego, Los Angeles, and it looks like Lake, and Siskiyou counties--- it aint over til it's over
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Invisible_Woe


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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: travelleler]
#13426151 - 11/02/10 10:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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so is this nondefinitive then? do we know for certain?
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EdgeChaos
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#13426176 - 11/02/10 10:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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We wait slightly longer.
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5-HT2A

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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: EdgeChaos]
#13426254 - 11/02/10 10:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've taken a research methods class and they have sophisticated mathematical formulas & study designs for estimating the results. They could be wrong but more than likely they won't be.
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travelleler
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13426280 - 11/02/10 10:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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didn't pass last time, it's always practically 50/50-- we need to pull some strings, you know like pres. G.W. Bush did in Florida.
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TheShroomJew23
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: travelleler]
#13426298 - 11/02/10 10:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prop 19 doesn't have a dad to forge ballots though.
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2859558484
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#13426344 - 11/02/10 10:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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what if gore got elected? what if iraq wasnt invaded? what if 100,000+ people didnt die? sucks
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 2859558484]
#13426382 - 11/02/10 10:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I plan on keeping up with it until the results are airtight but it doesn't look too good.
Someday I hope so deeply we can have this simple freedom, in the so called "land of the free". Just wish today would have been a step in the right direction...
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nachohippie
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Best]
#13426456 - 11/02/10 11:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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California already has this freedom it is called medical marijuana and I love it
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: nachohippie]
#13426500 - 11/02/10 11:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Legal MMJ is great for not getting busted, but the dispensary prices are essentially the same as street prices.
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13428131 - 11/03/10 10:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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if those 2million or more convicted felons without a right to vote could have voted...it would have passed i think it is very uncinstutional and super intelligent of them in a very devious manner to do this
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HarveyWalbanger
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: Legal MMJ is great for not getting busted, but the dispensary prices are essentially the same as street prices.
The dispensaries are next on the list. I predict the republicans will win the presidential election, and decide to give the DEA back their raids.
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gnarfbuckle
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
#13435331 - 11/04/10 06:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
HarveyWalbanger said:
Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: Legal MMJ is great for not getting busted, but the dispensary prices are essentially the same as street prices.
The dispensaries are next on the list. I predict the republicans will win the presidential election, and decide to give the DEA back their raids.
They never stopped raiding in the first place.....
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FractalDust
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: mothballs]
#13435994 - 11/04/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
mothballs said: if those 2million or more convicted felons without a right to vote could have voted...it would have passed i think it is very uncinstutional and super intelligent of them in a very devious manner to do this
What are you talking about? Convicted felons are allowed to vote in California.
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: FractalDust]
#13436019 - 11/04/10 08:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm a convicted felon and lost my right to vote thanks to our marijuana laws. So you're saying it varies state by state? That is news to me if true.
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FractalDust
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: SuperD]
#13436043 - 11/04/10 08:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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All I know is how it works in my state of California. We allow convicted felons to vote.
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Invisible_Woe


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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: SuperD]
#13436064 - 11/04/10 08:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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so much. im like falling asleep omg, supposed to get something like 3.6 or 2.7g of hydrocodone
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#13438327 - 11/05/10 11:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Under California law, people with felony convictions can register to vote if they are out of prison (fully served their sentences) and off parole.
Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Wyoming permanently prohibit voting rights for felons.
Maine and Vermont, do not place restrictions on the right of convicted felons to vote; felons in Maine and Vermont may vote while they are incarcerated.
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: HerbBaker]
#13438419 - 11/05/10 12:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
felons in Maine and Vermont may vote while they are incarcerated
Wow cool
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Invisible_Woe


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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#13438700 - 11/05/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Invisible_Woe said:
so much. im like falling asleep omg, supposed to get something like 3.6 or 2.7g of hydrocodone 
wow....thread fail like mofo
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mothballs
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Re: Prop. 19 headed to defeat, exit polls show [Re: FractalDust]
#13439005 - 11/05/10 02:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i had no idea...i thought everybody lost the right to vote if you were a felon...i lost my right to vote in tennessee
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