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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: OregonBluesGil]
    #15347455 - 11/09/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ya wood dowels will work fine. they are usually made of birch i think.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15347672 - 11/09/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If your going to spray wood chip beds then hit up your local bark/sand/gravel distributor. They keep their bark and topsoil outside in huge piles, measured by the truckload, so this would be one great way to go big. A gallon of liquid culture right on top should do the trick.

If anybody pulled this off then what ever species used would have a solid foothold on the entire area after year one.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15347703 - 11/09/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Alan mentioned something about the  micro biota in natural soils outside playing a huge role here.





No I wouldn't say that.




Apologies then Alan... I could have sworn it was you. I know the memory of this being posted is in my mind from somewhere, but I'll have to track it down to quote the author and provide more info. on this one.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: San]
    #15347743 - 11/09/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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If your going to spray wood chip beds then hit up your local bark/sand/gravel distributor. They keep their bark and topsoil outside in huge piles, measured by the truckload, so this would be one great way to go big. A gallon of liquid culture right on top should do the trick.

If anybody pulled this off then what ever species used would have a solid foothold on the entire area after year one.



                                                                                          Well Woodlovers dont prefer Bark,Here I just get ahold of one of the local tree trimming services and get them to drop off a truck load of chips for free.Tomarrow I'm going to give Cyan Smoothie tek a Go!!


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: OregonBluesGil]
    #15349613 - 11/10/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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OregonBluesGil said:                                                                                        Well Woodlovers dont prefer Bark,Here I just get ahold of one of the local tree trimming services and get them to drop off a truck load of chips for free.Tomarrow I'm going to give Cyan Smoothie tek a Go!!



I'm sure they've got normal wood chippings there too. If you could introduce psylocybes to that one place then the business would distribute them wide and far with out even knowing it. You'd be doing a great favor to the mushroom hunting community and to the species as well, since they could in turn spread after reaching maturity.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: San]
    #15351645 - 11/10/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here's a pic of a patch I created in my yard last fall using stem butts, layers of woodchips/sawdust, water during the summer and patience. Looks like its not going to fruit this season, but thats just fine with me. Covering it with leaves not only protected it from the low temps my area has gotten recently but also sped the expansion of the mycelium up quite a bit.
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I made the woodchips by hand using a hatchet and some hard wood logs. For sawdust I used a chainsaw. Working great so far. Also used a layer of vermiculite just to add some nutrients and a sterile dirt substance.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: loco801]
    #15355224 - 11/11/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nice job Loco:headbanger: When using a chainsaw, replace the bar oil with veggie oil. It helps keep out the petroleum products that normal bar oils are made from. I've wanted to start using natural oils that are spore solutions in chainsaws, that way I can introduce the spores to the chips from the beginning. I believe there are patents out there for spore containing oil, but I don't care if I'm not selling it:yesnod:

I make my chips the same way man, "Fiskars" axe (the best fucking axe in the world) to make larger chips and a chainsaw or power planer for smaller chips. Some of the patches I've made recently, I'll even sink 12"-18" sticks into the ground, leaving about 2" sticking up. My theory is that these sticks will pull moisture up from below ground which will in turn be used by the mycelium that is feeding on the sticks. Just a theory:shrug:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #15356215 - 11/11/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow,so far Stem butts have only been in woodchip jars two days and bright white myc is climbing onto chips,these were  alder smoking chips and white wood bed shavings,I just soaked the chips mix in stockpot with strauner that fit into pot to hold down and completly submerge the chips I did this late ,and let sit over night outside @ a chillie 40 degrees.Drained next morn for a couple hours ,then jared up the chip mix and tossed in a few stem butts and wala.Much quicker the messen with L.C.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #15358683 - 11/12/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I make my chips the same way man, "Fiskars" axe (the best fucking axe in the world) to make larger chips and a chainsaw or power planer for smaller chips. Some of the patches I've made recently, I'll even sink 12"-18" sticks into the ground, leaving about 2" sticking up. My theory is that these sticks will pull moisture up from below ground which will in turn be used by the mycelium that is feeding on the sticks. Just a theory:shrug:




Yes Fiskars makes the best axe ever. Before I bought it I was chopping my ass off, literally - quite a workout :lol: . Made just to the north of me in Finland - actually drove through the town where they make them.

We heat our house exclusively with wood so I do actually generate a fair amount of sawdust and 'chipped wood' not exactly wood chips but small chunks fly off when I am axeing and sawing. Between our two pot ovens, our wood-stove and sauna I get enough material for a decent bed every year. I currently use a half-half mix of alder and birch for heating. Alder doesn't have an amzing heating value but it cleans the chimneys nicely when it burns. I have just started to prepare a bed under the false current hedge in our backyard. Should provide an ideal spot for the wood-lovers :laugh:

Good idea about the veggie oil for the chainsaw - might try that. Any particular oil works best for you?


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: StInvetroThomas]
    #15360562 - 11/12/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So here is an update after only 4 days of placing the colonized grain on egg cartons.



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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #15360667 - 11/12/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Some side by side action. I can't believe how aggressive the stuff is, this is literally 4 days of growth.



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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #15363771 - 11/13/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

right on man, but your pretty much in the wrong forum now cuz your doing straight up cultivation now maynard. :thumbup: that aint a ghetto tek.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15433763 - 11/28/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yeah maynard! this sloppiness is how you do it! :hehehe:



bowl of water + clean up the harvest = spore water :evil2:

live on ghetto tekkers! :heart:

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
    #15434561 - 11/28/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i left my washing bucket sit out last year and you should have seen the germination that took place after a few days!! thats definetly a ghetto tekkers friend, the ole wash bucket. :thumbup:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15435903 - 11/28/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

This was clean water before I washed off a small pile of gymnopilus, I used this water in a wood chip bed, we will see how it goes.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #15446539 - 11/30/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I had a thought today. Seems like it might take a bit of fabrication and time, but still worth doing. I thought about how many spots I would drive by in my old vehicle. I got this weird thought about wiper fluid sprayers. What if you set up one on each side of your car, or whatever, and use a separate reservoir for spore solution or LC? Just drive by an area, flip a switch, and start spraying all over. Wouldn't be too hard, so I'll try to make a prototype using my SUV. Just a thought:shrug:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #15446691 - 11/30/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HaHa - thats AWESOME bfogg:bow2::super::cool:
McGuiver style spraying man - thats EPIC:stirthepot:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #15446732 - 11/30/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

genius my friend ,


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Mulch Sausage]
    #15446739 - 11/30/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Kinda makes me wonder why I don't think of those things sooner:shrug:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #15446768 - 11/30/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I had a thought today. Seems like it might take a bit of fabrication and time, but still worth doing. I thought about how many spots I would drive by in my old vehicle. I got this weird thought about wiper fluid sprayers. What if you set up one on each side of your car, or whatever, and use a separate reservoir for spore solution or LC? Just drive by an area, flip a switch, and start spraying all over. Wouldn't be too hard, so I'll try to make a prototype using my SUV. Just a thought:shrug:





dude thats so fucking brilliant!! :smile:


i had a similair thought a few weeks ago and i was going to post my idea once i had a chance to do it with my aurescens, but i was planning on spore printing my sun roof! but your plan is way better!


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