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HarryL
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13903839 - 02/04/11 08:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks
This is most probably p cyan...Or the frisco strain... Found growing in late December in Seattle....used stem butts... Yea, gray is egg carton or BRF..
This is being kept outside, temps right now are 30's-50's... Was started inside though... Trying to encourage the cold weather aspect...
Box is 1 ft cube.... Not small
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: HarryL]
#13905464 - 02/04/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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If it's outside, I would say to just keep it going, wait for about another month or so, then make an outdoor patch. This is what I would do. If it doesn't work out, it's better to try than just toss it out. Even if it's contaminated, there would still be a chance of healthy mycelium getting the upper hold with the colder temps of being outside. Might even want to find a piece that looks really rhizomorphic and try to seperate it and start more spawn. Hope it turns out well for ya 
If it is Psilocybe cyanescens, the mycelium should look like this.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13905486 - 02/04/11 02:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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great thread, I'll have to come back to this later, when my eyes feel better, lol
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13906868 - 02/04/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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LurkingWizards said: great thread, I'll have to come back to this later, when my eyes feel better, lol
this is a good one to keep up with 
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If it is Psilocybe cyanescens, the mycelium should look like this.

I love that initial burst onto the soaked carton! 
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#13907250 - 02/04/11 08:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ryath said:
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LurkingWizards said: great thread, I'll have to come back to this later, when my eyes feel better, lol
this is a good one to keep up with 
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bfogg8706 said:
If it is Psilocybe cyanescens, the mycelium should look like this.

I love that initial burst onto the soaked carton! 

This thread sure has gone a long way from where it started. Tons of good info and lots of great contributions. Kinda seems like this thread should belong in the cultivation forum but Helps people understand how spores can grow mycelium in countless ways. I'm looking forward to seeing where this thread takes us
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13907395 - 02/04/11 08:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks folks... Am glad there are folks, Johnny appleseeds, who was to see the continued spread of mushrooms... More and more.... Figure some of the patches I know of are the result of prior gardeners
Pass it along the love!!
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: HarryL]
#13908596 - 02/05/11 01:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice i started a wild patch of the friscosa's around here and it seems to be doing well. I will send some pics
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13909788 - 02/05/11 11:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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HarryL said: this is my box.... what do you think?

Can't really tell for sure. What does it smell like? is the grey material from an egg carton? What species is this? I have seen some of my cyanofibrillosa mycelium look kinda like that, but more rhizomorphic. I would agree with ryath on the FAE. What's the temps like? I've found that anywhere from 50°F-65°F works well for colonization (the colder it is, the more conditions favor mycelium growth and not mold or contaminates ) I keep all my projects at about 58°F. Hope this helps, but as with Ryath, I am not by any means an expert. Just my 2¢
i think that looks like cobweb. i would just plant it and see what happens.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13910464 - 02/05/11 01:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13979970 - 02/17/11 05:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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another encouragement post for those still hesitant! (I know pics get pplz wet) 
mentioned this one a few pages back... started as an 8-10cm piece of wood that was about 90% white. so beautiful. soaked some carton and chips, surrounded with the carton first then chips around that. sprinkled some moist organic soil around the whole thing and covered with holed foil. so easy. carton for the take-off, wood/soil for the sustained nutrients. never mind the green tint, that's from the color of the bin

only a few weeks of a window left to get these things started! do it!
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#13981137 - 02/17/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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 WICKED brother   Way to keep em happy n start with a aggressive lil chunk Can't wait to see what the next fall brings you bro!!! Youve done DAMN good  
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sporeRider]
#14127352 - 03/15/11 09:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, You probably have heard pof conifer psilocybe. psilocybe pelliculosa. they have another variety silvatica. Anyways a patch of mushrooms thAT match my national audobon society field guide to mushrooms for the species psilocybe pelliculosa, have been locATED. I dug up a small garden trowel of mycellium. moved this to 53 degree farenheight indoor location. I added Douglas-fir mulch and litter, a small portion of vermiculite. no sterilization. The mycellium has doubled its bio mass.
another cool thing. The beggining days of december, I went and picked the last of these forest bells. I sterilized equipment, and cut up the three stems. Placed in liquid culture. home made, with agave nectar. The mycellium formed around christmas time. Just a week ago i introduce this mycellium into powder douglas-fir wood. I used a syringe device.. left this cake in 53 degree temp as well. with lid. This mycellium has grown rapidly. My liquid culture is atill alive as well. also wiid powderfound its way into liquid cukture and the mycellium has grabbed it.
I air circulate this operation daily, with my arm and a plastic lid. spray hot water out of a sprAy bottloe into the air and onto the mulch. This is perfect spray temp, and raises humidity. the spray does not come ou hot, just like 75 degrees, 85 maybe.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: KingCaps36]
#14127378 - 03/15/11 09:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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joking, but for note keeping purposes, I would really like to see the projects.
keep spreading the LOVE
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#14127930 - 03/15/11 10:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would like to see some pics of the original mushrooms. On that note, I'm pretty sure that P. silvatica and P. pelliculosa are totally different mushrooms, just related. Hope things work out well for ya Did you pressure cook the LC you made? Next time you try, I've found that half rotten doug fir chips work the best with pelli's. I'll admit that I do put my decomposed chips through a pasteurization process
Also, try to get the temp up to about 55°F-65°F. Low 50's is a bit too cold for colonization. I like keeping all of my woodlovers and non tropical species at 62°F
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#14127953 - 03/15/11 10:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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did you have contam problems before you started pasteurizing? I've always skipped it and been recommending others to do so as well.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#14128532 - 03/16/11 12:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only put the wood that is like half rotten through a pasteurization process. I'll find a standing dead tree that wood peckers have attacked and collect chips from the base of these trees. Fresh chips, or chips that you buy have no need for this step, but in my experience, it helps out when using aged/decomposed wood. I now use this same process with baeocystis and am having great results.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#14144802 - 03/18/11 06:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spraying spores to start a patch? You must be lawyers or live in NZ .
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NeoSporen
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Fnorgl]
#14145062 - 03/18/11 07:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Having lived through an existence close to nature, one accepts the small and simple things as most important in life. Sun, wind, rain and snow. The sounds birds make, smells of fresh wild flowers. Love of all kinds, from friends and family, thy self and our neighbors. Beautiful sunrises to the darkest clouds dancing above in the sky. To forgive, learn, share and express. This is the only thing a man such as myself can ask for. What comes as the result is nothing short of the core of human existence, to truly live free in body and mind.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Fnorgl]
#14145468 - 03/18/11 08:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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you might want to read the posts... there are some talented people tossing ideas around with their spores
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#14147214 - 03/19/11 05:41 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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bfogg8706 said: I only put the wood that is like half rotten through a pasteurization process. I'll find a standing dead tree that wood peckers have attacked and collect chips from the base of these trees. Fresh chips, or chips that you buy have no need for this step, but in my experience, it helps out when using aged/decomposed wood. I now use this same process with baeocystis and am having great results.
Can't wait to see your baeocystis methods in full bfogg! 
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