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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sko0bydo0]
#13727309 - 01/03/11 10:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i would try it! mine were picked from horse shit so thats why i sprayed them back into horse shit. if yours were a grassland species i see no problem spraying back into grass.
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vjp
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13727367 - 01/03/11 10:52 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: i would try it! mine were picked from horse shit so thats why i sprayed them back into horse shit. if yours were a grassland species i see no problem spraying back into grass. 
I'm not following your logic
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: vjp]
#13728439 - 01/04/11 09:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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35% is a very dangerous concentration of H2O2, and while I do not know for sure, might give you more than you bargain for when in contact with organic matter... though, I am not sure how effective it is on spores, if that is what your trying to do... might think of using bleach ...would be more effective... since I am assuming your pile is too big to boil.
Dilute your clorox 10:1, and spray.... probably is, would probably need to treat say three times, with stirring before each one... watch your eyes, hands, clothes... bleach will do damage to all, but so will H2O2... wear gloves, eye projection, and do not spray into the wind... and shower after you are done.
or.. you could just assume your mushrooms will kick out the native ones!
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13731485 - 01/04/11 07:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: i would try it! mine were picked from horse shit so thats why i sprayed them back into horse shit. if yours were a grassland species i see no problem spraying back into grass. 
I disagree... not that they wouldn't work out in the grass, but I'm under the impression subbs are a very adaptive species. Also, the manure helps (I think) increase the nitrogen levels available to the mushies. This should increase both fruiting size and chemical content. Try to inoculate both substrates if you have the raw materials.

Here's some pics from the cyan ghettto tek I started on the 30th of Dec. I have some others going too, but this is the best one. More stem butts = more win.

How long should I let it go until transferring outdoors?
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#13731623 - 01/04/11 07:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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yo Ryath - Looking MIGHTY good there - but just note: if you got stembutts - just put em in jars/tubs of straight boiled chips RIGHT AWAY - you'll get pure colonized wood ASAP - which is what ya want- the cardboard is i think best when you start off with grains - but indoors you won't have to worry bout rodents anyhow - - -- i always threw in a good dusting of organic happy frog soil - and azure butts with that and some boiled smoking chips - they fucking blew up - one jar can make 5more- then those can make 5more each before spring Wicked woodlover vibes everyone
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
#13731721 - 01/04/11 08:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i agree with you wisco, myc kinda fizzles out on the cardboard sometimes. once its spread to wood its good to go tho. Quote:
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psylosymonreturns said: i would try it! mine were picked from horse shit so thats why i sprayed them back into horse shit. if yours were a grassland species i see no problem spraying back into grass. 
I disagree... not that they wouldn't work out in the grass, but I'm under the impression subbs are a very adaptive species. Also, the manure helps (I think) increase the nitrogen levels available to the mushies. This should increase both fruiting size and chemical content. Try to inoculate both substrates if you have the raw materials.

well he didnt say he had shit to spray them in. just grass. i would try the grass if thats all i had, you said yourself they are highly adaptive so i am not sure why your disagreeeing with me?
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13732006 - 01/04/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks brother psylo  
here is some pics ive been searchin for for a bit now - this is some of my first stembutt to chip azure jars i made - and i tellyas - NO NEED FOR CARDBOARD!!!! Just colonize as MUCH wood as ya can - and keep expanding as much as ya can ( but keep in mind you want it healthy HEALTHY HEALTHY = don't over do it ) But these were some PRETTY PRETTY very fast moving jars!!!!! Stembutts are the golden ticket    Here were some more recent ones - kinda shows how the rhizo's move FAST thru the happy frog soil layer   Dont' forget to notice the FREE postal tyvek total key to getting them the air they want n need while keeping out the nasty's - - - woodlover  
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sporeRider]
#13732168 - 01/04/11 09:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13738033 - 01/05/11 09:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Those jars are wicked They look exactly like the cyan jars I got going. Damn fine mate
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
#13739748 - 01/06/11 07:34 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya its been so cold here my shit in the garage was at a stand still. the gf bitches if i bring my dirty experiments in the house so i put it in the crawl space and in 2-3 days its alive and thriving again!
hey b wheres those cyanfib spores?!
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forestryofsecrets
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13750786 - 01/08/11 04:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi All! As I live in Australia I have been collecting stem butts all through our cold winter of 2010. We are now into summer and my garden containers are hybinating. I have been using the Cardboard, and egg cartons filled with nice Ps Subaeruginosa stem butts. I even had a few small plastic containers jammed with layers of cardboard tech with some wood chips in between. I found this to be the best tech as I notice how the moisture stays within and the Myc can be seen from the outer growing vigorously.
I wish now I took some pics of the containers that I made during our winter 10. Anyway I have transfered all my methods to these garden containers which I did on our last run of winter. I do hope this yr 11' will produce some fruits. If keen Ill keep you all posted. Fingers crossed!
Sorry I lost the pics Il reload them 
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: forestryofsecrets]
#13751843 - 01/08/11 11:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i hope so too man!! good luck!!
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forestryofsecrets
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13755145 - 01/08/11 09:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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To my surprise I found these beauties in my garden winter10'. Im not sure how they got there but I have been over the yrs trying to make a garden that I can admire  This small patch did not re flush unfortunately maybe again this yr 

Im not sure what these one's are? maybe a panaeolus of some sort?
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forestryofsecrets
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: forestryofsecrets]
#13755211 - 01/08/11 10:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here are the pics I lost!

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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: forestryofsecrets]
#13755329 - 01/08/11 10:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks great man!! the ones you think are pans are a Psathyrella species, maybe P gracilis. they are all over my patches too.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13755485 - 01/08/11 11:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for that! Regarding the now I.D mushroom psathyrella sp. Ive noticed that the species loves this type of conifer once the conifer trimmings have broken down. Ive only got a shot of the trimmings. This conifer can be one that can be grown for a barrier or wind break, but its very messy.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: forestryofsecrets]
#13757374 - 01/09/11 12:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks to be a juniper of some species or other, F.O.S.
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
#13757435 - 01/09/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok.... has anyone tried this?
I know a field that I hunted in this year, park land, no livestock... But standard pasture grass
Still, I found 8 liberty caps and 6 ...... Well something active (never did ID it) in the field.
Now... I noticed that homedepot has bags of steer manure... Would you think it crazy if I bought a couple bags and descreetly distribute it over the areas I found actives?
Not sure how I would do that.... But.... Think it worth it?
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: HarryL]
#13757941 - 01/09/11 02:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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P semilanceata is a grassloving/decomposing species. no matter how many people think dung is the reason for their existance it isn't. and i will argue til the day i die i have the sweetest hay field where dung has nothing to do with it and its hugely productive.
now what was this active unknown species you talk of? you have pics? how do you know it was active and why do you think its not a liberty cap?
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13758075 - 01/09/11 03:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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What I was thinking too, manure is not a pre-requisite to finding semilanceata. At best it could be a slight booster through adding nutrients to the soil thus aiding the grasses they love.
As projects inspired by this thread and others progress, it has played on my mind whether any of these ghetto teks could be adapted towards the grassloving species although of course there is a big difference in the way things work. The difficulty in cultivating say semilanceata as opposed to the woodlovers makes me think progress would always be difficult.
Perhaps as the years go by the great minds on here and similar places may be able to construe such methods, would be great to see.
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