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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #13693800 - 12/27/10 10:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Looking for opinions and or recommendations on how to spread this Panoleous cinctulus/sub. print i have. I have a huge field near by that is full and over run with Panaeolus foenisecii during its season. Is it safe to assume that the cinctulus may do well in this habitat? And if so, when and how should I spray or attempt to get these guys goin on? Much thanks in advance. :pipesmoke: Im in Oregon if that helps.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #13695194 - 12/28/10 09:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

well what i did was i germinated some subb spores, if you read throught this thread you will see the tech, and then i went and sprayed them on some horse shit. this is one species i think will be pretty easy to spread . and ive read on here that it has already worked for some people. and i dont think they even germinated them, they just put the spores in water and went and sprayed a good habitat.



i tried germinating some cyan spores a few days ago using honey water instead this time, but i dont seem to have an progress yet.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #13695470 - 12/28/10 10:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Looking for opinions and or recommendations on how to spread this Panoleous cinctulus/sub. print i have. I have a huge field near by that is full and over run with Panaeolus foenisecii during its season. Is it safe to assume that the cinctulus may do well in this habitat? And if so, when and how should I spray or attempt to get these guys goin on? Much thanks in advance. :pipesmoke: Im in Oregon if that helps.




There are some temperate regions where you could do this anytime of the year, but in OR you should wait until after it warms up a bit in a few months. I'm not sure when that happens for you. My point is, cinctulus is a warm weather lover, I'm pretty sure.

I consider foenesecii an indicator species for subbs, so your habitat should work well.

If you go back and read some of the posts, I'm sure one of the methods described will germinate subbs, or you could just spray spore-water.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
    #13698297 - 12/28/10 09:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Cool, thanks.... Ill backtrack the thread and see what I find. I also want to spread a P. baeocystis print I have but I hear its extremely difficult. Anywayz, Thx for the replys :jah:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #13698514 - 12/28/10 10:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Cool, thanks.... Ill backtrack the thread and see what I find. I also want to spread a P. baeocystis print I have but I hear its extremely difficult. Anywayz, Thx for the replys :jah:




I think it was bfogg that had baeocystis luck. he posted about it in here somewhere.

I finally started some ghetto teks myself. I've got two separate projects going using cyans: honey/salt/water & egg carton soaked in lignin water + chips. I'll post pics if I get any development.

oh yeah... Home Depot. Scotts sierra red or deep forest brown for $4.17 out the door. 40# bag I think. so awesome.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
    #13702545 - 12/29/10 06:49 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This is the kind of cultivation that interests me. 

Here's an idea, and sorry if it's already upthread somewhere:  Take your stem butts, blend up a bit, squirt into containers/jars of pasteurized woodchips.  Use as innoculant for woodchip beds.

What think ye all?

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
    #13702918 - 12/29/10 07:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

wow i missed my 420th post :facepalm:

but anyway the less important thing i had to say was i checked up on the patch i started earlier in the season and it seems to have built up stong enough mycelium to survive the winter non the less i covered it in a thick layer of pine duft and straw to protect against frost. ^_^


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
    #13705102 - 12/30/10 09:49 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

very nice!
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This is the kind of cultivation that interests me. 

Here's an idea, and sorry if it's already upthread somewhere:  Take your stem butts, blend up a bit, squirt into containers/jars of pasteurized woodchips.  Use as innoculant for woodchip beds.

What think ye all?

dip




dip you should read the whole thread!:smile:


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #13705570 - 12/30/10 11:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I've read the whole thread alright, but it's certainly possible I missed or more likely forgot someone describing the very thing I mention.

My thinking is that you've already got the right mating types together when the slurry is coming from actual carpophores.  And of course, my idea relates to wood-lovers only. 

In any case, it's not as if I've actually got any stem butts, or anything else for that matter.

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
    #13708026 - 12/30/10 08:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You must have missed The Woodlover Smoothie Tek.


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: naum]
    #13710894 - 12/31/10 10:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thnx Naum.  Now I've got some more good reading to do!  Much appreciated.

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
    #13711058 - 12/31/10 11:17 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

...and now, continuing this conversation with myself:wink:.....just finished that rather short thread.  Yes, I see the gist of what is suggested there being essentially what I was asking about.

I have:  Unlimited quantities of woodchips.
        A very nice chunk of wet to moist forest land, full of numerous  micro-environments
        A great deal of interest in this general area of cultivation.

I lack:  Any starting material of the fungal variety.  No butts, no caps, no nuttin.  Otherwise, I'd be doing this by now.

The two species I'd most like to work with, azurascens and cyanescens, are not known to occur naturally where I live.  There is though, a member that frequents this sub-forum, and this very thread, that has successfully over-wintered at least the Azies in this state.  So the concept is solid even here in a very cold-winter location.

Now, I've got to ask:  What is the likelihood of being able to noc up a jar of pasteurized woodchips with spores from a vendor?  Obviously, I'm trying to stay on the ghetto side of things here.  For a variety of reasons, I won't be setting up a flow hood or any of that business where I live.

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: dip]
    #13711291 - 12/31/10 12:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the best way to start would infact be to just get normal rye grain jars totally sterilized in a standard pressure cooker - then knock up with a syringe from any vendor of your choice - once colonized - even just portions of the jars - all it takes is ONE individual berry ( fully colonized ) to spread to woodchips of your choice too - starts out small - and patients is the KEY - but forsure azures and im OH SO SURE also cyans will live thru our winters here man - they both frequently grow in COLD PNW climates - and both would slowly make a nice lil home here - they don't have nearly as long a fruiting season as in the natural land of the PNW - but as you kno bro - atleast azures do indeed fruit HERE:thumbup::thumbup:  - - -- - - - - once u have beds outdoors - you prob will have to let them fully expand one summer - then survive one winter - and when they start eating the following summer - feed them some more fresh chips with organic soils - and that fall you shud see the first fruits of MANY more seasons to come!!!! just be patient - and you are on the right track - it could even be done with simply spraying spore print water bottles in good areas  too - just about NO ONE out here does that - so if you start - you'd mostlikely get some results at least in a few yrs
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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: sporeRider]
    #13711337 - 12/31/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

dip, check out: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13477272

explains how to get going from a spore syringe (from say Sporeworks :wink:) without even a pressure cooker, just a trusty microwave!


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: UK Explorer]
    #13712274 - 12/31/10 04:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks bredren, and good to hear back from you, Wisco.  I'm trying not to have to blurt it out, but I have a very good reason NOT to have ANYTHING in my house that could be construed to be involved in that which is illegal. Let's just say I've had very unwelcome guests in the not-too-distant past.

Therefor, I will be blunt......I'm trying to devise a scheme whereby virtually every aspect of this proposed grow takes place up at my land.....not here at home.

As far as patience, I've got plenty of that.  The only thing I'm the least bit anxious about is the desire to get going on this.  However long it takes for a patch to colonize, that's not an issue.  As with trees and other plants I grow, I enjoy the earliest stages of their development as well as any other stage.

Thanks again for the discussion!

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
    #13723099 - 01/03/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Cool, thanks.... Ill backtrack the thread and see what I find. I also want to spread a P. baeocystis print I have but I hear its extremely difficult. Anywayz, Thx for the replys :jah:




I hope it works out for ya man. It is a bit harder than say cyans. The mycelium is very fluffy and extremely fragile. I've had good results using maple chips that were fresh from a tree, mixed in with some potting soil and a bit of peat moss, kept at about 60°F but it's very slow growing.

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13726751 - 01/03/11 08:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So I have access to a bunch of hard wood chips that I wanted to use because my cardboard is completely caked. The deal is that there are already mushrooms (or were) growing on or around them. I saw at the feed store %35 H202, could I soak the chips in a strong solution first to kill unwanted fungi? The H202 breaks down safely in 24 hours anyways so... Or some better method to kill unwanted's in a large amount of wood chips?

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: rjson]
    #13726785 - 01/03/11 08:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

go to home depot. 4$ for 40 lb. bag of fresh, moist chips. scotts brand


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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: Primal Call]
    #13726845 - 01/03/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Damn. Done and done!

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Re: A few notes on spraying spores to start patches [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #13727024 - 01/03/11 09:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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well what i did was i germinated some subb spores, if you read throught this thread you will see the tech, and then i went and sprayed them on some horse shit. this is one species i think will be pretty easy to spread . and ive read on here that it has already worked for some people. and i dont think they even germinated them, they just put the spores in water and went and sprayed a good habitat.





All I know is the field is acres and acres and full of all sorts of grassland lovers. They Mow the trails quite Often and I see the foes spread like wild flowers from all the mowing.....(my guess anywayz.) So as soon As I see the Pan. foes. start poppin up then I should spay the cinctulus then. Sounds like a reasonable idea to me but I could be way off. :shrug:


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