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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: fapjack]
    #13421313 - 11/01/10 11:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Electricity is THE MAJOR COST of producing marijuana how can that not be a major factor in price?? and FYI pot is California's #1 cash crop
over all other agricultural products in a state known to feed the nation we grow a hell of a lot more than BC :smile:


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421357 - 11/02/10 12:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Electricity is THE MAJOR COST of producing marijuana how can that not be a major factor in price?? and FYI pot is California's #1 cash crop
over all other agricultural products in a state known to feed the nation we grow a hell of a lot more than BC :smile:




I grow and the pot still pays for it self many times over.....


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: mushhead91]
    #13421390 - 11/02/10 12:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yes but what is your total time + nutrients + electricity + clone cost + bulb replacement + initial set up cost for equipment+ rent for space to grow in + misc cost per pound worth if you wee in the business of supplying the best pot you can to people worth to you?? what would you think your work and expenses worth per pound?? I would wager to say what ever the market will pay as with any other product . people deserve to get paid for their expertise in life their trade and this law will give this cottage industry over to a taco bell like corporate machine who will automate and hire cheap labor all in the name of corporate greed this law is a bad thing for California and a bad step twords a new 'big tobacco" in the pot industry get a pack of prerolled industrial pot no thanks


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421411 - 11/02/10 12:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Do you realize how much effort goes into growing tomatoes?  You can still get a tomato for under a dollar.  Same with tobacco, you can get a pound of tobacco for 20 bucks minus the taxes.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421449 - 11/02/10 12:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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NOBODY buys Mexican brick weed in California you cant be serious and these so called experts have only government statistics to use for any reports they are making. You are an ass and even if prop 19 passes not 1 life will be saved because Mexican cartels have been effected by
prop 19 :lolsy:



Um, mexico doesn't import only shitty weed.
I live very close to mexico.

Most of our weed comes from there.
We can get anything from brick weed, to sin semilla brick weed, to normal mids, to home grown dank.

The dank is twice the price as the non-bricked mexican weed for like 1.2 times the quality.
It's so not worth it here to buy dank.
My point being that 'shitty mexican weed' is a misnomer.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13421483 - 11/02/10 12:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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It was Harry Anslinger who had the foresight and wisdom to point out that this innocuous plant is actually the tool of the Devil. If it weren’t for Harry we wouldn’t know that marijuana use reflects extreme moral turpitude.




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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13421485 - 11/02/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Also there's been tons of mexicans growing in the national parks, so if there growing in california there probably selling there to?


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: bigmike7104]
    #13421519 - 11/02/10 12:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Also there's been tons of mexicans growing in the national parks, so if there growing in california there probably selling there to?



Yeah the mexican cartels grow alot in federal parks in Northwest California/Southwest Oregon. More than half of that weed goes east through the states. Most people on the west coast know a medical grower, but the mexican stuff still gets sold here. Every state that legalizes marijuana is a step towards getting rid of the cartel problem and preserving national forests.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: bigmike7104]
    #13421526 - 11/02/10 12:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Also there's been tons of mexicans growing in the national parks, so if there growing in california there probably selling there to?






There's been a few cases :shrug: ...



But I have no doubt the whole thing with Mexicans growing in the national parks is just more propaganda...In all reality there's probably just a handful of em' at most...




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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: openmind]
    #13421538 - 11/02/10 12:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the point is that prop 19 will do nothing to stop Mexicans from growing weed so the cartels will fell no pressure from this law


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: openmind]
    #13421544 - 11/02/10 12:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Also there's been tons of mexicans growing in the national parks, so if there growing in california there probably selling there to?






There's been a few cases :shrug: ...



But I have no doubt the whole thing with Mexicans growing in the national parks is just more propaganda...In all reality there's probably just a handful of em' at most...

:2cents:
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There aren't tons of growers but there are literally tons of plants. It is a serious problem on the local level though. Currently in Oregon there are 2 or 3 major cartel grows in operation. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but they are huge grows on public land and innocent people who accidently find the grows get killed. Even though these grows are on federally owned land the federal government is providing no support and we have a bunch of county sheriffs not knowing what to do.

The cartel grows aren't the big problem though. The problem with the cartels is bigger in states like Texas and Arizona where they have easier access to Mexico. A lot more people dying there.

The cartels are dealing in other drugs, guns and even human trafficking. But they earn billions by selling pot.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: psilyguy]
    #13421549 - 11/02/10 01:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the cartel is selling the pot in other states not Cali they arent stupid pot is too cheap in cali so they send it back east and get top dollar prop 19 will do nothing to stop this fact


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421553 - 11/02/10 01:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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the point is that prop 19 will do nothing to stop Mexicans from growing weed so the cartels will fell no pressure from this law




With this point you are correct.

California does get a lot of attention in other states though. There are some states that I could never see legalizing, but some I think would have an easier time passing legalization if they see it go alright in CA. Nothing will stop the Mexicans from growing weed except futility. They will grow it and sell it as long as there are buyers. The buyers are in states where pot is illegal.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421558 - 11/02/10 01:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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the cartel is selling the pot in other states not Cali they arent stupid pot is too cheap in cali so they send it back east and get top dollar prop 19 will do nothing to stop this fact



never said it would/learn to use the reply function correctly

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: psilyguy]
    #13421570 - 11/02/10 01:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the best shot red states have of seeing " legal" pot, compassionate usage laws are the first step if we can get 50 states medical usage then a recreational law may sweep the nation but not till we get broader patient rights nationwide just look at what we have done in Montana and Nevada two states with previously some of the harshest laws in the nation on pot now medical states but a recreational law would of never had a chance in either :wink:


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: psilyguy]
    #13421575 - 11/02/10 01:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can use it fine


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13421620 - 11/02/10 01:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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the best shot red states have of seeing " legal" pot, compassionate usage laws are the first step if we can get 50 states medical usage then a recreational law may sweep the nation but not till we get broader patient rights nationwide just look at what we have done in Montana and Nevada two states with previously some of the harshest laws in the nation on pot now medical states but a recreational law would of never had a chance in either :wink:




of course medical marijuana is a step towards legalization, but there is no reason to wait for all 50 states to have that before 1 state legalizes.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: psilyguy]
    #13421682 - 11/02/10 01:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

what bullshit VOTE YES in Cali and dont believe this propaganda (sp?)  i dont live in California but i know for a fact that the majority of the weed in my area is not homegrown- and even if it was, if a corporation can make my bud cheaper then I want that(as long as no added chems)  and if the small bud grower cant make a profit then oh well.  the only reason there is a profit like there is is because its illegal so I can't wait until im no longer a criminal.  other than that from my experience a lot of people have trouble getting marijuana at times,  dont you love the day your dealer never runs out because they're a 24hr gas station...  This may not be perfect but do you really want to keep the way your living with bud illegal now, or with the abilty to get bud anytime, ACTUALLY CHOOSE (med patients may have this now, idk, but i dont and you prob. dont) what kind of bud you want, and be able to carry around an ounce of it(seriously the only time 99.9% of people buy more than that is if your selling it, which im including myself).  SO VOTE YES IN CALIFORNIA FOR PROP 19

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Sykey]
    #13421764 - 11/02/10 02:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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....This may not be perfect but do you really want to keep the way your living with bud illegal now, or with the abilty to get bud anytime, ACTUALLY CHOOSE (med patients may have this now, idk, but i dont and you prob. dont) what kind of bud you want, and be able to carry around an ounce of it(seriously the only time 99.9% of people buy more than that is if your selling it, which im including myself).  SO VOTE YES IN CALIFORNIA FOR PROP 19






In all reality, I can get bud anytime all the time....

At times be able to choose between a few legitimate strains, damn near always top quality.

And carry an ounce with only worries of getting a $100 ticket at the very worse, probably just going to get your weed taken away, maybe...



And this is true for the majority of pot smokers in California.






Pot aint no thing around here, you ride across town in the early evening a bit after everyone is off work, and the smell of bud is wafting in the air :smirk: .






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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: openmind]
    #13421801 - 11/02/10 03:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I can go out side right now a smoke ndjoint walking down the street with a medical card with prop 19 that will change I am also a parent where am I supposed to legally medicate in my home??? according to prop 19 I will become a criminal ..............yea nice law ...........if I provide a fellow patient with some of the medicine I have I will become a criminal ............... yea nice law READ THE LAW AND THEN FORM AN OPINION the law is flawed in major ways and I will vote no and encourage all CALIFORNIANS to do so as well
goodnight  only tomorrow will tell




Prop 19 will not make it a crime for you to smoke in your own home.  Medical users will be allowed to smoke in front of kids, as they are now. 

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why cant the rest of you do it your selfs?? are you all that lazy California has already paved the way this law will restrict the rights of patients




Prop. 19 will not affect the rights of patients.  It only affects the rights of non-patients.

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pot is already legal in California for medical users




Most people are not sick and are not medical users.  I am not sick and I do not want to have to lie to a doctor to be able to smoke weed.

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it says you can grow a pot garden of eden but you can only pick one ounce from it at a time.

bitches




No, you can pick your whole garden under prop. 19.

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it will not pass :smile: because the people dont want walmart weed :wink:
this is a bad law final answer :awedrugs:




I would like the option of buying walmart weed. 

I do not shop at walmart and I would not buy it, but I should have that option.


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it specifically bans using  in public places or in the presence of minors but doesn't specify what is an allowable distance it is a very badly writen law that puts the supply in the hands of a few. How is this a good thing nobody has answered this question ?? and dont say grow your own folks can do that now but still buy pot from clubs so how is it a god thing to regulate a industry that is doing just fine the way it is . Why bring down new federal heat on to the providers who are helping people acquire their medicine? If this law passes the price to patients will go up mark my words :frown:




The price will go down a lot of this law passes because anyone will be able to legally grow weed.

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But I have no doubt the whole thing with Mexicans growing in the national parks is just more propaganda...In all reality there's probably just a handful of em' at most...





I have found around 15 large scale marijuana grows in the bay area while hunting mushrooms.  All of them were Mexican cartel grows.  I have not found any non-cartel grows.  I can tell due to all the mexican products littering the sites - mexican food, medicines, etc.  All their notes are written in spanish.

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