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Offlinefapjack
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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: veggie]
    #13420328 - 11/01/10 08:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

They are trusting the wrong people, the growers and dispensaries are clocking millions, why would they want to risk being undercut?  People are so easily mislead, this is best thing that's happened in CA in 14 years since medical marijuana was approved.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: fapjack]
    #13420376 - 11/01/10 08:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

by limiting access to medicinal marijuana growing permits and sales liscences


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420388 - 11/01/10 08:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i dont live in cali put i much prefer my potheads be put in jail and their kids in foster homes.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Konyap]
    #13420408 - 11/01/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

prop 19 will change none of the above pot in cali up to 1 oz is already only an infraction and a 100 dollar fine prop 19 will reduce nothing in the terms of arrest


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420515 - 11/01/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hum.

Someone is this thread must be making money of weed.

:shrug:

Prop 19 seems right. If I was in Cali I would vote yes, at least it is a first step even if it may contain some flaws.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: veggie]
    #13420573 - 11/01/10 09:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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veggie said:
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cnna4 said:
Yeah, people have overlooked the fact that many pot smokers do not want Proposition 19.  Check out this site: http://no-on19.com (Marijuana smokers Against Prop 19)




I looked at that site and on the first page you are presented with this:
"Possesion of an ounce has just been decrimialized in CA (no charges, no court, no record), by SB 1449. So you can wave your bag at a cop if you want to! [effective 1/1]"

That's not true. Not true at all. So, I am leery of site that starts off with a lie, trying to con pot smokers. Even if it was true, that you could possess pot with no fine, you would still have to get it somewhere. Either grow it or get from someone who does or someone who sells it which would all be felonies under the law.




The site is definitely not real, check out the q and a's page. This is one quote


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Q: The supporters of Prop 19 paint a very different picture of marijuana. How do I know who is right?

A: It all comes down to whom do you trust? On the one hand you have the United States government’s view as best exemplified by the brilliant Harry Anslinger. On the other hand you have a bunch of dope-smoking young punks and dirty old hippies who really only have science on their side. Who cares what some "reefer-loving" over-educated research types and scientists happen to think? Our politicians clearly know best.




Also it says which is a real case though
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On June 11, 1992, Larry Jackson was arrested at a friend’s Tulsa apartment. Larry had a lengthy history of nonviolent petty crimes. Near Larry’s foot on the floor, authorities found a minuscule amount of marijuana – 0.16 of a gram, which is 0.005644 of an ounce. Mr. Jackson was charged with felony marijuana possession, convicted and given a life sentence.




That's crazy, a life sentence for .16 of a gram :eek:

Most of the site is pretty sarcastic though,


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420596 - 11/01/10 09:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

just legalize it then amend it

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: littleton]
    #13420604 - 11/01/10 09:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

pot is already legal in California for medical users


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420640 - 11/01/10 09:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

With all due respect, when do amendments ever loosen the law or give more freedom? They never do. They are used solely to create stricter guidelines and laws. To add to the laws that are already there.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Apes]
    #13420759 - 11/01/10 09:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Apes said:
With all due respect, when do amendments ever loosen the law or give more freedom? They never do. They are used solely to create stricter guidelines and laws. To add to the laws that are already there.




Umm... the bill of rights??

Wow.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: mushhead91]
    #13420782 - 11/01/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like dealers and growers are no on 19 because it will cut into profit.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: baraka]
    #13420800 - 11/01/10 09:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it says you can grow a pot garden of eden but you can only pick one ounce from it at a time.

bitches

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Konyap]
    #13420818 - 11/01/10 09:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
it says you can grow a pot garden of eden but you can only pick one ounce from it at a time.

bitches






No...


You're allowed to have a 5x5 grow area, if counties or cities want to raise this limitation to a larger grow area they can..



You can grow and harvest as much as you want, but once you leave your house you're only allowed to have one ounce in your possession..







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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: openmind]
    #13420822 - 11/01/10 09:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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openmind said:
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aiyobro said:
it says you can grow a pot garden of eden but you can only pick one ounce from it at a time.

bitches






No...


You're allowed to have a 5x5 grow area, if counties or cities want to raise this limitation to a larger grow area they can..



You can grow and harvest as much as you want, but once you leave your house you're only allowed to have one ounce in your possession..







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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: SuperD]
    #13420833 - 11/01/10 10:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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nachohippie said:
"Seriously, fuck prop 19.  Jack Herrer's law seems much better."


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Vote for 19 tomorrow and for Herrer's bill in 2012.  Win-win.




People are afraid that Herrer's law won't pass because people will be content with Prop 19. If Prop 19 has the problems you think it has then people won't be content with it. Vote yes on both.

The majority of people who are against Prop 19 either think pot is evil or are making money with it illegal. Those people will still campaign against Herrer's law and vote no on it. They will convince the gullible that there are problems with Herrer's idea just like Prop 19. Plus the people that are on the fence and see some of the regulations that come with Prop 19 as a compromise aren't going to vote for something that isn't a compromise.

Don't be afraid that a better law won't pass if Prop 19 does, because a better law won't pass if Prop 19 doesn't.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420856 - 11/01/10 10:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still a yes on Prop 19.

You can grow 25 sq feet of herb or use an affirmative defense for personal use.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Raw]
    #13420954 - 11/01/10 10:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the "dealers" are the backers of this bill google agramed the $$ behind this fraud being put before the voters of California


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Raw]
    #13420956 - 11/01/10 10:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

anyone voting NO on 19 for those reasons stated in OP, understand that cartels are killing people in the name of the very illegal drug trade you are helping to preserve... and just so you can have peace of mind to smoke outside, or have other perqs currently allowed. Another 2 years you wait for the possibility of a 'better' measure (that will probably fail even harder), and all these people die in the meantime, and others are imprisoned related to the choice you make (I say imprisoned because California does sway the direction of other states; the sooner its legal here, the sooner its no longer a crime elsewhere). Vote Yes on 19, and if you really want that change, vote YES on the next one, or to future amendments... Your goal here should be legalization, for HUMAN RIGHTS, not for your own privileges.

Go ahead and vote for prohibition. But dont for a second think youre not completely transparent. You arent for legalization, youre just out for yourself.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Raw]
    #13420968 - 11/01/10 10:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm still a yes on Prop 19.

You can grow 25 sq feet of herb or use an affirmative defense for personal use.



you are from a medical state correct??

would you vote for 4 company's to be the only people you can get your pot from?? you guys are getting some variety now how would you like it for a handful of growers decide what is best for them to grow?? now there are millions of vendors in Cali with a wide variety of products how will putting the power into the hands of a few do any good for the masses??


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Mickalopagus]
    #13420998 - 11/01/10 10:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This isn't going to effect drug cartels as much as people claim it will.  Their still going to make lots of money off of their shitty weed in 48 other states.  Unless weed in CA is going to sell as cheap as mexishit, its not going to cause that big of a difference.  It is a step forward to legalization though, and that I agree with you on.  I hope I can see it happen in my lifetime.


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