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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: openmind]
    #13419612 - 11/01/10 06:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

LEAVE MY STATES POLITICS TO THE VOTERS OF MY STATE


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13419629 - 11/01/10 06:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

fuck that texas is great. not sure you would like it though...


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie] * 1
    #13419669 - 11/01/10 06:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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nachohippie said:
LEAVE MY STATES POLITICS TO THE VOTERS OF MY STATE




We clearly are, as I cannot vote YES on 19 even if I wanted to (living in Texas and having a non-violent mj felony prevents me from voting, so I'm double fucked in that regard).  You guys have got to realize though that what happens in California, doesn't stay in California.  We are counting on you guys in the west to show the rest of America that open recreational pot use is not going to cause the world to collapse.

Prop 19 WILL be amended by the same voters who voted for or against it to better suit their needs and ease their concerns.  That's what amendments are for, and they happen all the damn time with bills in your state and all the other 49 states.  Think of the greater good and how many lives you will have literally saved in the coming years once the domino effect takes hold and other states begin drafting bills to stop prosecuting people for pot possession.

It's also nonsense to be worried about the Wal-Martization of weed if this bill passes.  Have you ever heard of a microbrewery?  There will be PLENTY of microgroweries around California once this proposition passes.  I'll happily pay a much more inflated price for herb grown by a microgrower who put love and care into their plants rather than a greedy corporation who wants to pump out as many pounds in as little time as possible.


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I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13419742 - 11/01/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

this is how easy it is to conform to the masses, dont buy into it people


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: SuperD]
    #13419747 - 11/01/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

why vote for a bad law when a good one is on the horizon??

The Jack Herer Cannabis Hemp Initiative 2010


AN ACT TO AMEND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF CALIFORNIA:

I. Add Section 11362.6 to the Health and Safety Code of
California, any laws or policies to the contrary notwithstanding:

1. No person, individual, or corporate entity shall be arrested or prosecuted, be denied any right or privilege, nor be subject to any criminal or civil penalties for the possession, cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp marijuana, including:
(a) Cannabis hemp industrial products.
(b) Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations.
(c) Cannabis hemp nutritional products.
(d) Cannabis hemp religious and spiritual products.
(e) Cannabis hemp recreational and euphoric use and products.

2. Definition of terms:
(a) The terms "cannabis hemp" and “cannabis hemp marijuana” mean the natural, non-genetically modified plant hemp, cannabis, marihuana, marijuana, cannabis sativa L, cannabis Americana, cannabis chinensis, cannabis indica, cannabis ruderalis, cannabis sativa, or any variety of cannabis, including any derivative, concentrate, extract, flower, leaf, particle, preparation, resin, root, salt, seed, stalk, stem, or any product thereof.
(b) The term "cannabis hemp industrial products" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are not designed or intended for human consumption, including, but not limited to: clothing, building materials, paper, fiber, fuel, lubricants, plastics, paint, seed for cultivation, animal feed, veterinary medicine, oil, or any other product that is not designed for internal human consumption; as well as cannabis hemp plants used for crop rotation, erosion control, pest control, weed control, or any other horticultural or environmental purposes, for example, the reversal of the Greenhouse Effect and toxic soil reclamation.
(c) The term "cannabis hemp medicinal preparations" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are designed, intended, or used for human consumption for the treatment of any human disease or condition, for pain relief, or for any healing purpose, including but not limited to the treatment or relief of: Alzheimer's and pre-Alzheimer's disease, stroke, arthritis, asthma, cramps, epilepsy, glaucoma, migraine, multiple sclerosis, nausea, premenstrual syndrome, side effects of cancer chemotherapy, fibromyalgia, sickle cell anemia, spasticity, spinal injury, stress, easement of post-traumatic stress disorder, Tourette syndrome, attention deficit disorder, immunodeficiency, wasting syndrome from AIDS or anorexia; use as an antibiotic, antibacterial, anti-viral, or anti-emetic; as a healing agent, or as an adjunct to any medical or herbal treatment. Mental conditions not limited to bipolar, depression, attention deficit disorder, or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, shall be conditions considered for medical use.
(d) The term "cannabis hemp nutritional products" means cannabis hemp for consumption by humans and animals as food, including but not limited to: seed, seed protein, seed oil, essential fatty acids, seed cake, dietary fiber, or any preparation or extract thereof.
(e) The term "cannabis hemp euphoric products" means cannabis hemp intended for personal recreational or religious use, other than cannabis hemp industrial products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, or cannabis hemp nutritional products.
(f) The term "personal use" means the internal consumption of cannabis hemp by people 21 years of age or older for any relaxational, meditative, religious, spiritual, recreational, or other purpose other than sale.
(g) The term "commercial production" means the production of cannabis hemp products for sale or profit under the conditions of these provisions.

3. Industrial cannabis hemp farmers, manufacturers, processors, and distributors shall not be subject to any special zoning requirement, licensing fee, or tax that is excessive, discriminatory, or prohibitive.

4. Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations are hereby restored to the list of available medicines in California. Licensed physicians shall not be penalized for, nor restricted from, prescribing or recommending cannabis hemp for medical purposes to any patient, regardless of age. No tax shall be applied to prescribed cannabis hemp medicinal preparations. Medical research shall be encouraged. No recommending physician shall be subject to any professional licensing review or hearing as a result of recommending or approving medical use of cannabis hemp marijuana.

5. Personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products.
(a) No permit, license, or tax shall be required for the non-commercial cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp.
(b) Testing for inactive and/or inert residual cannabis metabolites shall not be required for employment or insurance, nor be considered in determining employment, other impairment, or intoxication.
(c) When a person falls within the conditions of these exceptions, the offense laws do not apply and only the exception laws apply.

6. Use of cannabis hemp products for religious or spiritual purposes shall be considered an inalienable right; and shall be protected by the full force of the State and Federal Constitutions.

7. Commerce in cannabis hemp euphoric products shall be limited to adults, 21 years of age and older, and shall be regulated in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. For the purpose of distinguishing personal from commercial production, 99 flowering female plants and 12 pounds of dried, cured cannabis hemp flowers, bud, not leaf, produced per adult, 21 years of age and older, per year shall be considered as being for personal use.

8. The manufacture, marketing, distribution, or sales between adults of equipment or accessories designed to assist in the planting, cultivation, harvesting, curing, processing, packaging, storage, analysis, consumption, or transportation of cannabis hemp plants, industrial cannabis hemp products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, cannabis hemp nutritional products, cannabis hemp euphoric products, or any cannabis hemp product shall not be prohibited.

9. No California law enforcement personnel or funds shall be used to assist or aid and abet in the enforcement of Federal cannabis hemp marijuana laws involving acts which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California.

10. Any person who threatens the enjoyment of these provisions is guilty of a misdemeanor. The maximum penalties and fines of a misdemeanor may be imposed.


II. Repeal, delete, and expunge any and all existing statutory laws that conflict with the provisions of this initiative.

1. Enactment of this initiative shall include: amnesty, immediate release from prison, jail, parole, and probation, and clearing, expungement, and deletion of all criminal records for all persons currently charged with, or convicted of any non-violent cannabis hemp marijuana offenses included in this initiative which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. People who fall within this category that triggered an original sentence are included within this provision.

2. Within 60 days of the passage of this Act, the Attorney General shall develop and distribute a one-page application, providing for the destruction of all cannabis hemp marijuana criminal records in California for any such offense covered by this Act. Such forms shall be distributed to district and city attorneys and made available at all police departments in the State to persons hereby affected. Upon filing such form with any Superior Court and a payment of a fee of $10.00, the Court shall liberally construe these provisions to benefit the defendant in furtherance of the amnesty and dismissal provision of this section. Upon the Court's ruling under this provision the arrest record shall be set aside and be destroyed. Such persons may then truthfully state that they have never been arrested or convicted of any cannabis hemp marijuana related offense which is hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. This shall be deemed to be a finding of factual innocence under California Penal Code Section 851.8 et seq.


III. The legislature is authorized upon thorough investigation, to enact legislation using reasonable standards to:

1. License concessionary establishments to distribute cannabis hemp euphoric products in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. Sufficient community outlets shall be licensed to provide reasonable commercial access to persons of legal age, so as to discourage and prevent the misuse of, and illicit traffic in, such products. Any license or permit fee required by the State for commercial production, distribution or use shall not exceed $1,000.00.

2. Place an excise tax on commercial sale of cannabis hemp euphoric products, analogous to California's wine industry model, so long as no excise tax or combination of excise taxes shall exceed $10.00 per ounce.
3. Determine an acceptable and uniform standard of impairment based on performance testing, to restrict persons impaired by cannabis hemp euphoric products from operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery, or otherwise engaging in conduct that may affect public safety.

4. Regulate the personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products in enclosed and/or restricted public places.


IV. Pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the people of California hereby repudiate and challenge Federal cannabis hemp marijuana prohibitions that conflict with this Act.


V. Severability: If any provision of this Act, or the application of any such provision to any person or circumstance, shall be held invalid by any court, the remainder of this Act, to the extent it can be given effect, or the application of such provisions to persons or circumstances other than those as to which it is held invalid, shall not be affected thereby, and to this end the provisions of this Act are severable.


VI. Construction: If any rival or conflicting initiative regulating any matter addressed by this act receives the higher affirmative vote, then all non-conflicting parts shall become operative.


VII. Purpose of Act: This Act is an exercise of the police powers of the State for the protection of the safety, welfare, health, and peace of the people and the environment of the State, to protect the industrial and medicinal uses of cannabis hemp, to eliminate the unlicensed and unlawful cultivation, selling, and dispensing of cannabis hemp; and to encourage temperance in the consumption of cannabis hemp euphoric products. It is hereby declared that the subject matter of this Act involves, in the highest degree, the ecological, economic, social, and moral well-being and safety of the State and of all its people. All provisions of this Act shall be liberally construed for the accomplishment of these purposes: to respect human rights, to promote tolerance, and to end cannabis hemp prohibition.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13419791 - 11/01/10 06:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

BAD LAW FOR PATIENTS RIGHTS PLEASE READ IT ALL AND MAKE A INFORMED CHOICE


Text of Proposition 19, the "Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010" (California)
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        This page is the complete text of the act that will become law if the California Proposition 19, the Marijuana Legalization Initiative (2010) is approved.

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    * 1 Section 1: Name
    * 2 Section 2: Findings, Intent and Purposes
          o 2.1 A. Findings
          o 2.2 B. Purposes
          o 2.3 C. Intent
    * 3 Section 3: Lawful Activities
          o 3.1 Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
          o 3.2 Section 11301: Commercial Regulations and Controls
          o 3.3 Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees
          o 3.4 Section 11303: Seizure
          o 3.5 Section 11304: Effect of Act and Definitions
    * 4 Section 4: Prohibition on Furnishing Marijuana to Minors
    * 5 Section 5: Amendment
    * 6 Section 6: Severability
    * 7 External links

Section 1: Name

This Act shall be known as the "Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010."
Section 2: Findings, Intent and Purposes

This Act, adopted by the People of the State of California, makes the following Finding and Statement of Intent and Purpose:
A. Findings

  1. California's laws criminalizing cannabis (marijuana) have failed and need to be reformed. Despite spending decades arresting millions of non-violent cannabis consumers, we have failed to control cannabis or reduce its availability.
  2. According to surveys, roughly 100 million Americans (around 1/3 of the country's population) acknowledge that they have used cannabis, 15 million of those Americans having consumed cannabis in the last month. Cannabis consumption is simply a fact of life for a large percentage of Americans.
  3. Despite having some of the strictest cannabis laws in the world, the United States has the largest number of cannabis consumers. The percentage of our citizens who consume cannabis is double that of the percentage of people who consume cannabis in the Netherlands, a country where the selling and adult possession of cannabis is allowed.
  4. According to The National Research Council's recent study of the 11 U.S. states where cannabis is currently decriminalized, there is little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions and the rate of consumption.
  5. Cannabis has fewer harmful effects than either alcohol or cigarettes, which are both legal for adult consumption. Cannabis is not physically addictive, does not have long term toxic effects on the body, and does not cause its consumers to become violent.
  6. There is an estimated $15 billion in illegal cannabis transactions in California each year. Taxing and regulating cannabis, like we do with alcohol and cigarettes, will generate billions of dollars in annual revenues for California to fund what matters most to Californians: jobs, health care, schools and libraries, roads, and more.
  7. California wastes millions of dollars a year targeting, arresting, trying, convicting, and imprisoning non-violent citizens for cannabis related offenses. This money would be better used to combat violent crimes and gangs.
  8. The illegality of cannabis enables for the continuation of an out-of-control criminal market, which in turn spawns other illegal and often violent activities. Establishing legal, regulated sales outlets would put dangerous street dealers out of business.

B. Purposes
California
2010 propositions
June 8
Proposition 13
Proposition 14 • Text
Proposition 15 • Text
Proposition 16 • Text
Proposition 17 • Text
November 2
Proposition 19 • Text
Proposition 20 • Text
Proposition 21 • Text
Proposition 22 • Text
Proposition 23 • Text
Proposition 24 • Text
Proposition 25 • Text
Proposition 26 • Text
Proposition 27 • Text

  1. Reform California's cannabis laws in a way that will benefit our state.
  2. Regulate cannabis like we do alcohol: Allow adults to possess and consumes all amounts of cannabis.
  3. Implement a legal regulatory framework to give California more control over the cultivation, processing, transportation, distribution, and sales of cannabis.
  4. Implement a legal regulatory framework to better police and prevent access to and consumption of cannabis by minors in California.
  5. Put dangerous, underground street dealers out of business, so their influence in our communities will fade.
  6. Provide easier, safer access for patients who need cannabis for medical purposes.
  7. Ensure that if a city decides not to tax and regulate the sale of cannabis, that buying and selling cannabis within that city's limits remain illegal, but that the city's citizens still have the right to possess and consume small amounts, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.
  8. Ensure that if a city decides it does want to tax and regulate the buying and selling of cannabis (to and from adults only), that a strictly controlled legal system is implemented to oversee and regulate cultivation, distribution, and sales, and that the city will have control over how and how much cannabis can be bought and sold, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.
  9. Tax and regulate cannabis to generate billions of dollars for our state and local governments to fund what matters most: jobs, healthcare, schools and libraries, parks, roads, transportation, and more.
  10. Stop arresting thousands of non-violent cannabis consumers, freeing up Police resources and saving millions of dollars each year, which could be used for apprehending truly dangerous criminals and keeping them locked up, and for other essential state needs that lack funding.
  11. Allow the Legislature to adopt a statewide regulatory system for a commercial cannabis industry.
  12. Make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial, and research purposes.
  13. Permit California to fulfill the state's obligations under the United States Constitution to enact laws concerning health, morals, public welfare and safety within the State.
  14. Permit the cultivation of small amounts of cannabis for personal consumption.

C. Intent

  1. This Act is intended to limit the application and enforcement of state and local laws relating to possession, transportation, cultivation, consumption and sale of cannabis, including but not limited to the following, whether now existing or adopted in Health and Safety Code sections 11014.5 and 11364.5 [relating to drug paraphernalia]; 11054 [relating to cannabis or tetrahydrocannabinols]; 11357 [relating to possession]; 11358 [relating to cultivation]; 11359 [possession for sale]; 11360 [relating to transportation and sales]; 11366 [relating to maintenance of places]; 11366.5 relating to use of property]; 11370 [relating to punishment]; 11470 [relating to forfeiture; 11479 [relating to seizure and destruction]; 11703 [relating to definitions regarding illegal substances l; 11705 [actions for use of illegal controlled substance l; Vehicle Code sections 23222 and 40000.15 [relating to possession].
  2. This Act is not intended to affect the application or enforcement of the following state laws relating to public health and safety or protection of children and others: Health and Safety Code sections 11357 [relating to possession on school grounds]; 11361 [relating to minors as amended herein]; 11379.6 [relating to chemical production]; 11532 relating to loitering to commit a crime or acts not authorized by law]; Vehicle Code section 23152 [relating to driving while under the influence]; Penal Code section 272 [relating contributing to the delinquency of a minor]; nor any law prohibiting use of controlled substances in the workplace or by specific persons whose jobs involve public safety.

Section 3: Lawful Activities

Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls

  1. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
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              1. Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual's personal consumption, and not for sale.
              2. Cultivate, on private property by the owner, lawful occupant, or other lawful resident or guest of the private property owner or lawful occupant, cannabis plants for personal consumption only, in an area of not more than twenty-five square feet per private residence or, in the absence of any residence, the parcel. Cultivation on leased or rented property may be subject to approval from the owner of the property. Provided that, nothing in this section shall permit unlawful or unlicensed cultivation of cannabis on any public lands.
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              1. Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.
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              1. Possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and materials associated with activities permitted under this subsection.
        1. "Personal consumption" shall include but is not limited to possession and consumption in any form, of cannabis in a residence or other non-public place, and shall include licensed premises open to the public authorized to permit on-premises consumption of cannabis by a local government pursuant to section 11301.
        1. "Personal consumption" shall not include, and nothing in this Act shall permit cannabis:
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              1. possession for sale regardless of amount, except by a person who is licensed or permitted to do so under the terms of an ordinance adopted pursuant to section 11301;
              2. consumption in public or in a public place;
              3. consumption by the operator of any vehicle, boat or aircraft while it is being operated, or that impairs the operator;
              4. smoking cannabis in any space while minors are present.

Section 11301: Commercial Regulations and Controls

Notwithstanding any other provision of state or local law, a local government may adopt ordinances, regulations, or other acts having the force of law to control, license, regulate, permit or otherwise authorize, with conditions, the following:

        1. cultivation, processing, distribution, the safe and secure transportation, sale anc possession for sale of cannabis, but only by persons and in amounts lawfully authorized;
        1. retail sale of not more than one ounce per transaction, in licensed premises, to persons 21 years or older, for personal consumption and not for resale;
        1. appropriate controls on cultivation, transportation, sales, and consumption of cannabis to strictly prohibit access to cannabis by persons under the age of 21;
        1. age limits and controls to ensure that all persons present in, employed by, or in any way involved in the operation of, any such licensed premises are 21 or older;
        1. consumption of cannabis within licensed premises;
        1. safe and secure transportation of cannabis from a licensed premises for cultivation or processing, to a licensed premises for sale or on-premises consumption of cannabis;
        1. prohibit and punish through civil fines or other remedies the possession, sale, possession for sale, cultivation, processing, or transportation of cannabis that was not obtained lawfully from a person pursuant to this section or section 11300;
        1. appropriate controls on licensed premises for sale, cultivation, processing, or sale and on-premises consumption, of cannabis, including limits on zoning and land use, locations, size, hours of operation, occupancy, protection of adjoining and nearby properties and persons from unwanted exposure, advertising, signs and displays, and other controls necessary for protection of the public health and welfare;
        1. appropriate environmental and public health controls to ensure that any licensed premises minimizes any harm to the environment, adjoining and nearby landowners, and persons passing by;
        1. appropriate controls to restrict public displays, or public consumption of cannabis;
        1. appropriate taxes or fees pursuant to section 11302;
        1. such larger amounts as the local authority deems appropriate and proper under local circumstances, than those established under section 11300(a) for personal possession and cultivation, or under this section for commercial cultivation, processing, transportation and sale by persons authorized to do so under this section;
        1. any other appropriate controls necessary for protection of the public health and welfare.

Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees

(a) Any ordinance, regulation or other act adopted pursuant to section 11301 may include imposition of appropriate general, special or excise, transfer or transaction taxes, benefit assessments, or fees, on any activity authorized pursuant to such enactment, in order to permit the local government to raise revenue, or to recoup any direct or indirect costs associated with the authorized activity, or the permitting or licensing scheme, including without limitation: administration; applications and issuance of licenses or permits; inspection of licensed premises and other enforcement of ordinances adopted under section 11301, including enforcement against unauthorized activities.

(b) Any licensed premises shall be responsible for paying all federal, state and local taxes, fees, fines, penalties or other financial responsibility imposed on all or similarly situated businesses, facilities or premises, including without limitation income taxes, business taxes, license fees, and property taxes, without regard to or identification of the business or items or services sold.
Section 11303: Seizure

(a) Notwithstanding sections 11470 and 11479 of the Health and Safety Code or any other provision of law, no state or local law enforcement agency or official shall attempt to, threaten to, or in fact seize or destroy any cannabis plant, cannabis seeds or cannabis that is lawfully cultivated, processed, transported, possessed, possessed for sale, sold or used in compliance with this Act or any local government ordinance, law or regulation adopted pursuant to this Act.
Section 11304: Effect of Act and Definitions

(a) This Act shall not be construed to affect, limit or amend any statute that forbids impairment while engaging in dangerous activities such as driving, or that penalizes bringing cannabis to a school enrolling pupils in any grade from kindergarten through 12, inclusive.

(b) Nothing in this Act shall be construed or interpreted to permit interstate or international transportation of cannabis. This Act shall be construed to permit a person to transport cannabis in a safe and secure manner from a licensed premises in one city or county to a licensed premises in another city or county pursuant to any ordinances adopted in such cities or counties, notwithstanding any other state law or the lack of any such ordinance in the intervening cities or counties.

(c) No person shall be punished, fined, discriminated against, or be denied any right or privilege for lawfully engaging in any conduct permitted by this Act or authorized pursuant to Section 11301 of this Act. Provided however, that the existing right of an employer to address consumption that actually impairs job performance by an employee shall not be affected.

(d) Definitions

For purposes of this Act:

    (i) "Marijuana" and "cannabis" are interchangeable terms that mean all parts of the plant Genus Cannabis, whether growing or not; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated cannabis; edible products containing same; and every active compound, manufacture, derivative, or preparation of the plant, or resin.

    (ii) "One ounce" means 28.5 grams.

    (iii) For purposes of section 11300(a)(ii) "cannabis plant" means all parts of a living Cannabis plant.

    (iv) In determining whether an amount of cannabis is or is not in excess of the amounts permitted by this Act, the following shall apply:

        (a) only the active amount of the cannabis in an edible cannabis product shall be included;

        (b) living and harvested cannabis plants shall be assessed by square footage, not by weight in determining the amounts set forth in section 11300(a);

        (c) in a criminal proceeding a person accused of violating a limitation in this Act shall have the right to an affirmative defense that the cannabis was reasonably related to his or her personal consumption.

    (v) "residence" means a dwelling or structure, whether permanent or temporary, on private or public property, intended for occupation by a person or persons for residential purposes, and includes that portion of any structure intended for both commercial and residential purposes.

    (vi) "local government" means a city, county, or city and county.

    (vii) "licensed premises" is any commercial business, facility, building, land or area that has a license, permit or is otherwise authorized to cultivate, process, transport, sell, or permit on-premises consumption, of cannabis pursuant to any ordinance or regulation adopted by a local government pursuant to section 11301 , or any subsequently enacted state statute or regulation.

Section 4: Prohibition on Furnishing Marijuana to Minors

Section 11361 of the Health and Safety Code is amended to read:

Prohibition on Furnishing Marijuana to Minors

(a) Every person 18 years of age or over who hires, employs, or uses a minor in transporting, carrying, selling, giving away, preparing for sale, or peddling any marijuana, who unlawfully sells, or offers to sell, any marijuana to a minor, or who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give any marijuana to a minor under 14 years of age, or who induces a minor to use marijuana in violation of law shall be punished by imprisonment in the for a period of three, five, or seven years.

(b) Every person 18 years of age or over who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give, any marijuana to a minor 14 years of age or older shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.

(c) Every person 21 years of age or over who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give, any marijuana to a person aged 18 years or older shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of up to six months and be fined up to $1,000 for each offense.

(d) In addition to the penalties above an person who is licensed, permitted or authorized to perform any act pursuant to Section 11301, who while so licensed, permitted or authorized negligently furnishes, administers, gives or sells, or offers to furnish, administer, give or sell any marijuana to any person younger than 21 years of age shall not be permitted to own, operate, be employed by, assist or enter any licensed premises authorized under Section 11301 for a period of one year.
Section 5: Amendment

Pursuant to Article 2, section 10(c) of the California Constitution, this Act may be amended either by a subsequent measure submitted to a vote of the People at a statewide election; or by statute validly passed by the Legislature and signed by the Governor, but only to further the purposes of the Act. Such permitted amendments include but are not limited to:

(a) Amendments to the limitations in section 11300, which limitations are minimum thresholds and the Legislature may adopt less restrictive limitations.

(b) Statutes and authorize regulations to further the purposes of the Act to establish a statewide regulatory system for a commercial cannabis industry that address some or all of the items referenced in Sections 11301 and 11302.

(c) Laws to authorize the production of hemp or non-active cannabis for horticultural and industrial purposes.
Section 6: Severability

If any provision of this measure or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of the measure that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this measure are severable.
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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: SuperD]
    #13419798 - 11/01/10 06:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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LEAVE MY STATES POLITICS TO THE VOTERS OF MY STATE




We clearly are, as I cannot vote YES on 19 even if I wanted to (living in Texas and having a non-violent mj felony prevents me from voting, so I'm double fucked in that regard).  You guys have got to realize though that what happens in California, doesn't stay in California.  We are counting on you guys in the west to show the rest of America that open recreational pot use is not going to cause the world to collapse.

Prop 19 WILL be amended by the same voters who voted for or against it to better suit their needs and ease their concerns.  That's what amendments are for, and they happen all the damn time with bills in your state and all the other 49 states.  Think of the greater good and how many lives you will have literally saved in the coming years once the domino effect takes hold and other states begin drafting bills to stop prosecuting people for pot possession.

It's also nonsense to be worried about the Wal-Martization of weed if this bill passes.  Have you ever heard of a microbrewery?  There will be PLENTY of microgroweries around California once this proposition passes.  I'll happily pay a much more inflated price for herb grown by a microgrower who put love and care into their plants rather than a greedy corporation who wants to pump out as many pounds in as little time as possible.






Very good points, it is true that California tends to lead the way and set trends & what not, this is another reason I would like to see 19 pass.




And I have also brought up the point to friends, that there is always going to be that "microbrewery" of weed, that grows very fine organic top shelf buds....And shit, cannabis is so deeply rooted in California culture, and there are lots of fine genetics that people have been holding onto and improving over the years I don't think they're going to be going anywhere fast...




My main concern with 19 is being able to have my own garden, even with a 5x5 grow space I would be happy. That would be the coolest thing ever, and I would not worry about the quality of weed as I would be producing my own fine organic buds. But I have heard that counties will be able to impose a tax (or charge for a license) on personal gardens, with the fee being absurd...that part isn't so clear to me :confused:








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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: cnna4]
    #13419804 - 11/01/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, people have overlooked the fact that many pot smokers do not want Proposition 19.  Check out this site: http://no-on19.com (Marijuana smokers Against Prop 19)




I looked at that site and on the first page you are presented with this:
"Possesion of an ounce has just been decrimialized in CA (no charges, no court, no record), by SB 1449. So you can wave your bag at a cop if you want to! [effective 1/1]"

That's not true. Not true at all. So, I am leery of site that starts off with a lie, trying to con pot smokers. Even if it was true, that you could possess pot with no fine, you would still have to get it somewhere. Either grow it or get from someone who does or someone who sells it which would all be felonies under the law.

So why would a site lie, why would anyone lie to get someone to not vote for for a measure that would allow using, possessing, and growing cannabis. As always, follow the money. Cannabis prohibition like alcohol prohibition provides great income opportunities for people. Marijuana is illegal, so the price is high. Legalize it and the price plummets. Common sense. So who benefits if Prop 19 fails? Both criminals who grow/sell it illegally and selfish greedy bastards who sell it legally via dispensaries who want the price to remain abnormally high to take advantage of the sick, and rip off the people who faked illnesses.

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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: veggie]
    #13419869 - 11/01/10 06:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can go out side right now a smoke ndjoint walking down the street with a medical card with prop 19 that will change I am also a parent where am I supposed to legally medicate in my home??? according to prop 19 I will become a criminal ..............yea nice law ...........if I provide a fellow patient with some of the medicine I have I will become a criminal ............... yea nice law READ THE LAW AND THEN FORM AN OPINION the law is flawed in major ways and I will vote no and encourage all CALIFORNIANS to do so as well
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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13419876 - 11/01/10 07:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Prop 19 does not override the guidelines stated within Prop 215 nor SB420 in any way shape or form.  Did we not just go over this?  Your concerns are misplaced.

You would only have to worry about all those things you just stated IF you did NOT have a 215 card.  But you DO.  So stop worrying and vote YES on 19.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13419883 - 11/01/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

read this artical it is about a friend and patient :smile:

hxxp://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=1865695


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420040 - 11/01/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I remember when I posted something about Prop 19 being loosely and dangerously worded and how it would remove freedoms that already exist in California a bunch of posters hosed me for it and one guy actually stated that "if he knew [me] in real life [he] would kill me".  I'm pretty sure he made mention of killing me via stabbing, but I really don't remember.

Seriously, fuck prop 19.  Jack Herrer's law seems much better.

Edit: Fuck prop 19 sounds a little harsh.  More like, lets not be tricked into thinking we are getting something that we aren't.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: Humility]
    #13420070 - 11/01/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think this is a bit mis-leading. From what I've read, anyone who has a Medicinal Marijuana card already will NOT be effects at all by this bill. Medicinal users will still be able to use anywhere they want that smoking is allowed.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: mushhead91]
    #13420112 - 11/01/10 07:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I think this is a bit mis-leading. From what I've read, anyone who has a Medicinal Marijuana card already will NOT be effects at all by this bill. Medicinal users will still be able to use anywhere they want that smoking is allowed.




That is correct.  Something that the stoners against 19 don't seem to comprehend.  If you have a 215 card, you might as well forget Prop 19 even exists.  But that doesn't mean you shouldn't vote YES on it tomorrow.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: SuperD]
    #13420127 - 11/01/10 07:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"Seriously, fuck prop 19.  Jack Herrer's law seems much better."


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420165 - 11/01/10 07:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Vote for 19 tomorrow and for Herrer's bill in 2012.  Win-win.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420206 - 11/01/10 07:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This anti-propaganda on here is really starting to piss me off.  The bill has issues, but its not only about California its about legalizing it in the US.  Its not a perfect bill, but its an improvement to the current situation.  People are just being spoon fed horse shit by MM Dispensaries and growers, its really quite sad.


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: fapjack]
    #13420226 - 11/01/10 08:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

why cant the rest of you do it your selfs?? are you all that lazy California has already paved the way this law will restrict the rights of patients


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Re: Potheads say ‘No to Prop 19’ [Re: nachohippie]
    #13420287 - 11/01/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What, by regulating an industry that doesn't have any?  How the hell are you going to sell a medication with no regulation?  They should set up some sort of system similar to the FDA to regulate medicinal sales of marijuana, but whatever.  Liquor stores are all regulated, you are listening too much to the wrong people.  Keep believing people that are charging you very inflated prices for marijuana, I'll believe people that are actually fighting for the eventual end of this drug war.


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    #13420302 - 11/01/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)
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read this artical it is about a friend and patient :smile:

http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=1865695




I read the article twice. Very interesting. Mr. Landers sounds like a nice guy. He certainly does seems afraid that Prop 19 will limit MMJ patients rights. He doesn't say why though. He may think it, or feel it, or someone told him that and he just believes it. Often times that is enough to get someone to change their mind. Plant a seed of fear and let it grow. It is unfortunate that people will take advantage of the sick for their own gains.

I also reread Prop 19. for the umpteenth time and am attaching it to this post. I have a feeling that most of the people that are against specific portions of it have yet to actually read it. No one on here or that I have spoke with in real life have been able to point out to me where in the measure it is detrimental to current or future medical marijuana patients. Someone show me.

It's down to the wire, it can go either way. You are either for it or against it. What I would hate is if someone is against it because they are misinformed or were lied to. It would be terrible to realize Wednesday or Thursday that you were duped into voting against it.

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