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OfflineCrobih
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2% for politics
    #1340706 - 02/27/03 01:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ok,what do you think of idea that you have to give 2% of your incomes for some political party or non governement stuff. It would be good thing in my opinion. Cause in that way we would eliminate the power of big capital and its influence on the governement. opinions?


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1341361 - 02/27/03 07:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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you have to give 




No.  :mad: 


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1341376 - 02/27/03 07:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Cause in that way we would eliminate the power of big capital and its influence on the governement.





That would be nice.




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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1341380 - 02/27/03 08:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Stealing is wrong.


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1341767 - 02/28/03 01:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ok,what do you think of idea that you have to give 2% of your incomes for some political party or non governement stuff



no...keyword being MY money

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It would be good thing in my opinion.



great another socialist program....it's needed like another like a hole in the head

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Cause in that way we would eliminate the power of big capital and its influence on the governement. opinions?



yeah right...


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1341941 - 02/28/03 04:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

OK, lets look at tghis in a logical way (hopefully). The only way a 2% charge on income (as defined by the government) is going to eliminate anything is if they make it illegal for political parties to raise private funds.

Here's the way it would work - ellegibility into elections (federal and state level, say) would be done on a petition basis, the number of signors necessary being determined by state and post. IE, a state senator from Idaho might ojnly need a five thousand signature petition to be eligible for the running pool, while a presidential candidate would obviously need a bunch more, or a federal congressman, etc.

Once the deadline date arrives, only those with proper petitions will be allowed into the election pool, and allothers will be excluded. Now, for each pool there would be the set amount of money (which was garnered from the two percent rule). The money would be split evenly among the pool of elegible candidates, and they would ahve to account fro how this money was spent - the important thing is that no party would be able to spend more than the alloted amount of money!

With this system the biggest advertisers would not win, which is the problem today - if you want to exclue someone whose ideas you do not like you do noty have to do anything but deny them funding.

The above system would be designed to bypass the ability of giant entities and corporations to simnply outbuy their competitors.

Any ideas refinements?

Just a thought.


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: ]
    #1344911 - 03/01/03 01:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

mush...how do you consider taxes? is that steeling? in this flow of the concpets, yes. off course, speaking of my country. same thing with usa. this is so called pragmatism. thing which is No1 when considering politics.


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: drfrei]
    #1344918 - 03/01/03 01:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

drfrei, it must be because of my bad english. but i did not understand you completely.

the first step ( pettition). do you find it interesting cause in that way you would eliminate nonpolitical organisations for getting 2%?


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1623359 - 06/10/03 11:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

no, that way you eliminate the flow of money from gigantic corporations or extremely rich people. It is only through this legal system of corruption, where ideas and individuals may be excluded because of nonfunding that the powers that be remain the powers that be.

The petition would simply get you or your party into the pool where the actual money was spent. One year there might be four parties that gain the minimum requirement to enter the election, one year there might be seven that can compete, but however many there are, the pool of money is split evenly between them.


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: Crobih]
    #1623368 - 06/10/03 11:33 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

politicians should be banned from giving certain favors to companies, not accepting money from them.


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Re: 2% for politics [Re: ]
    #1623541 - 06/10/03 01:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"politicians should be banned from giving certain favors to companies, not accepting money from them. "

The favors they grant to the companies are generally laws being passed which would help the company in whatever way.

You can't make it illegal to pass laws. That's completely retarded.

They should pass laws which make it so that having a greater amount of money wouldn't help your campaign. Ban television advertising, or give all candidates a small amount of free advertising that they cannot exceed.



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