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OfflineShroomerette
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Re: entire police force quits [Re: travelleler]
    #13401563 - 10/28/10 03:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Cartels are heroes




WTF??  and FUCK YOU man.

the cartels kill people just for witnessing their horrendous murders.

Cartels are no more heroes than Hitler or Ferdenand Marcos ok?

GET REAL!  :boo:




:thumbup: I agree


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: travelleler]
    #13401614 - 10/28/10 03:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i personally think you should be allowed to culltivate drugs for personal use but not allowed to sell them,but i've never been keen on drug dealers or making proffit from natures finest.i'm not just talking about weed or shrooms i'm talking anything that grows opium poppy cocaine plants kratom khat salvia that way most people are able to get their own prefference but will learn more about what they are taking.educating people then on what the substances are doing to them would be extremely beneficial,i understand there will be people too lazy to grow their own and people wanting to sell what they grow,but at least if you put in the time and effort you will have nice clean fresh substances and know where they have come from


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: SuperD]
    #13401791 - 10/28/10 04:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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He tossed my bag of weed out when he pulled me over




= bad cop.  I don't care if it's his job to tell people to follow a certain rule, his REAL job is protecting the citizenry.  If you can explain to me why weed is something that makes our world more dangerous, I will agree with you that he was a good cop.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: scienceguy]
    #13401853 - 10/28/10 04:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Cartels are heroes




:laugh2:
yea i definatly know thats a straight up lie, there was an article a while back about the cartel kidnaping a bunch of mexicans, thinking they were getting smuggled to the u.s. they forked over like 2,000$
the cartel gave them a choice they either work for them smuggling drugs and risk getting life or die, the people opted no so they all got lined up and executed, 1 dude survived and played dead for a while, when the coast was clear he walked so menny miles of desert and eventually told his story
these greedy fucks are only in it for the money/power do not mistake them for heroes


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: auronlives69]
    #13403299 - 10/28/10 08:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Don't be one of those people that gets so wrapped up in one issue that it blinds them to another. Yeah I think weed should be legalized and the drug war is bullshit, but I'm not about to let that blind me to the fact that cartel's are fucked up, like a big club of organized serial killers that rape and torture little girls and/or help cover up those who did, etc and a huge percentage are cops, so you get pulled over with a nice car and the cartel cop wants it, maybe he'll just murder you and take your car it happens-I had to do a research paper on this shit last year for my college english class, its fucked up, and its tragic that they do this shit and it also kinda sucks that they bring drugs that could be used for legitimate purposes into it


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13404549 - 10/29/10 02:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think the cartels have more money than the government at this point... if not they probably will soon enough... what happens then?


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: Mickalopagus]
    #13404682 - 10/29/10 03:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Look up the history of the Mafiosi-the Italian Mafia (as in, the Mafia IN italy). They started having so much money from drug trafficking that they corrupted so much of the government and had so much power that they were on top, the only thing that stopped it was when the people decided they had had enough and started reported things even though they knew they would likely die, true courage, but yeah don't think america is immune to that sort of thing happening


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13404981 - 10/29/10 07:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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explain to me why weed is something that makes our world more dangerous




okay, because idiots drink a couple beers, smoke a joint or bowl, and get behind the wheel of a car every day.  The beer/liquor and weed by themselves aren't nearly as intoxicating as the combination.

people die as direct results of DUII

there's one explanation.


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: travelleler]
    #13405392 - 10/29/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Again...  Explain to me what about weed is dangerous?  Your examples are about people's choices, not anything inherently bad with weed.  Your first words were "Because idiots..." as if idiots don't screw everything up already.  I'm not interested in living in an idiot-proof world, nor am I interested in all the hypothetical situations you can dream of where the isolated actions of one idiot help you convince other people that it's still okay for you to control what other people put in their bodies.

People also die from aspartame poisoning (a lot more than weed), but no one seems to give a shit about that, even though it's legal...

The laws aren't there to protect you, and they are not indicative of a moral authority.

Terrible critical thinking skills are much more dangerous for our society than weed.


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: phayze]
    #13405438 - 10/29/10 10:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Are you against people selling corn or wheat as well?  Your argument makes no sense.


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Re: entire police force quits [Re: scienceguy]
    #13406181 - 10/29/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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1tokeovrtheline said:
the only thing that stopped it [the mafia] was when the people decided they had had enough and started reported things even though they knew they would likely die, true courage, but yeah don't think america is immune to that sort of thing happening




And we are definitely not.  Make no mistake, the U.S. government as well as these cartels are both drug mafias.  One makes its money by keeping drugs on the streets, and one makes its money keeping drugs off the streets (or at least  trying - possibly pretending - to do so), and neither of them are afraid to show up at your place with guns and shoot you if they have to. 

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i personally think you should be allowed to culltivate drugs for personal use but not allowed to sell them,but i've never been keen on drug dealers or making proffit from natures finest.

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i understand there will be people too lazy to grow their own and people wanting to sell what they grow,but at least if you put in the time and effort you will have nice clean fresh substances and know where they have come from





This is such a crucial insight to understanding prohibition culture, and it goes way back to when we first started believing the concept of division of labor.  Nobody does anything for themselves anymore; they go out and do one or a few things in order to earn credits for other people to come in and do the particular things they do in exchange for credits to have other people do the same for them.

Hello, economy.

The drug problem is exacerbated by our bad distribution habits.  Depending on something to come from someone else in a black market situation will give rise to this sort of thing.  People who are tied down with a job and responsibilities are not always apt to take such a huge risk and spend so much time learning to grow their own.  If everyone did though, there wouldn't be any cartels swooping in to do that one specific thing that yields them money. 

Anywhere you have something rotting and stinking, the maggots will inevitably come.

We will, at the very least, see these cartels take a significant financial hit once people stop being afraid and just start doing what is common sense: planting a plant that people are killing each other to get in the perfectly fertile land sitting all around them.



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I'm not interested in living in an idiot-proof world, nor am I interested in all the hypothetical situations you can dream of where the isolated actions of one idiot help you convince other people that it's still okay for you to control what other people put in their bodies.





There is so much truth condensed in that sentence it's unbelievable.  It's like truth bouillon.

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