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George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign
    #13391281 - 10/26/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Billionaire investor George Soros is a longtime proponent of the legalisation of marijuana. Photograph: Tobias Schwarz/Reuters

California's campaign to legalise marijuana received a major boost today with a $1m donation from billionaire financier and philanthropist George Soros.

The cash infusion, one week before Californians vote on a measure that would let anyone over 21 grow and possess up to an ounce of marijuana and allow local councils to tax sales of the drug, marks the first major investment by Soros in the mid-term elections.

Soros, a prominent donor to Democratic organisations in 2004, 2006 and 2008, told the New York Times that he was sitting out these elections because the prospects were so bleak.

"I don't believe in standing in the way of an avalanche," he told the Times. Soros has focused instead on funding research into climate change policy, committing to spending $10m a year over the next decade.

But in an article posted in the Wall Street Journal, he argued that, no matter what the outcome on 2 November, California's legalisation campaign was a winner.

"The mere fact of its being on the ballot has elevated and legitimised public discourse about marijuana and marijuana policy in ways I could not have imagined a year ago," he wrote.

Soros is a longtime proponent of legalisation. He spent $3m on initiatives that led to the legalisation of marijuana for medical use in the 1990s.

Recent opinion polls suggest, however, that Californians are unlikely to opt for full legalisation – although some commentators have speculated that people may just be reluctant to come out in favour of marijuana in public.

The Soros donation could alter that dynamic. The donation became public 48 hours after the no side began television and radio ads warning that legalisation would be an utter disaster, with truck drivers and hospital personnel doing drugs on the job. "Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was high," said one ad.

For its part, the legalisation campaign is running ads featuring former police chiefs claiming that bringing marijuana into the open will prevent the rise of Mexico-type cartels and generate revenue for cash-strapped town councils.

The Soros donation is the largest from a single individual since Proposition 19's sponsor, Richard Lee, put down $1.5m of his own money in support of legalisation.

Lee, a former lighting technician for Aerosmith, has made a fortune from indoor grow houses and dispensaries for marijuana in Oakland.

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: gkipz]
    #13391550 - 10/26/10 06:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: gkipz]
    #13391586 - 10/26/10 06:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

anybody know if prop 19 is getting votes or not?

how is it looking so far ?


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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #13391608 - 10/26/10 06:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

dude theres no way to tell. we'll know shortly


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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #13391624 - 10/26/10 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Most of the polls have Prop 19 passing by a small margin. A couple polls have it losing by a small margin. It's a coin toss.

Hopefully with the generous donation by Mr. Soros, the Yeson19 TV ad will be plastered all over the state and move a bunch of the undecided to the yes side.

How could people not vote for this? If voters smoke pot or they don't, it's just the right thing to do.

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: veggie]
    #13391705 - 10/26/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Because a large part of the population chooses not to evoke the most important right in this country.  I love it when people complain about government and then tell you they didn't vote.. no complaining unless you voted haha.. the only control we have over leadership and where it will take us is in that vote.

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: gkipz]
    #13391773 - 10/26/10 06:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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gkipz said:
w00t

The Soros donation could alter that dynamic. The donation became public 48 hours after the no side began television and radio ads warning that legalisation would be an utter disaster, with truck drivers and hospital personnel doing drugs on the job. "Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was high," said one ad.








how stupid could you be to believe, that is a rational explanation to opposing the legal use of cannabis

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: traviedigital]
    #13391805 - 10/26/10 07:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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gkipz said:
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The Soros donation could alter that dynamic. The donation became public 48 hours after the no side began television and radio ads warning that legalisation would be an utter disaster, with truck drivers and hospital personnel doing drugs on the job. "Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was high," said one ad.








how stupid could you be to believe, that is a rational explanation to opposing the legal use of cannabis





Rest assured, there are some dumb sons of bitches out there that swallow that shit up as gospel.  I was depressed reading through a lot of the Wall Street Journal comments on the OpEd article Soros did recently.


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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: SuperD]
    #13391903 - 10/26/10 07:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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. "Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was high,"





"Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was DRUNK":razz:

Imagine realizing that companies are allowed to place restrictions about use while at work. Imagine if hospitals said they didn't allow it by co-workers on the job. :cuckoo:

someone on the news site said:
"Doctors and nurses have pretty free access to all kinds of drugs."
"Reefer was legal in 1910 and somehow the sky didn't fall."

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: guest1]
    #13391948 - 10/26/10 07:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Imagine coming out of surgery and the nurse caring for you was high




must be some cool nurse

maybe she can help you get some of that medicinal grade stuff :jah:


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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #13392076 - 10/26/10 07:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #13392221 - 10/26/10 08:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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eLShaMukO said:
anybody know if prop 19 is getting votes or not?

how is it looking so far ?






Like veggie said, it's close...



For a while there I was really thinking it was going to pass by just a bit, now I thinking it's going to loose by just a bit.


Most people I know that smoke, which is almost everyone, is against prop 19 :shrug: , for very stupid reasons :facepalm: . Everything from "they don't want big companies controlling this plant" to "I'm not 21 so I'm voting no"...complete ignorance


It's unfortunate...I can see where they're coming from with a few of the points they bring up, but there isn't going to be this perfect Utopian proposition for legalization of cannabis, it's just not going to happen...





We'll see what happens, I'm getting excited to see how close it ends up. Just the fact it's on the ballot is awesome :thumbup:, I got my ballot a couple days ago it's cool actually seeing it on there.






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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: openmind]
    #13392410 - 10/26/10 09:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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eLShaMukO said:
anybody know if prop 19 is getting votes or not?

how is it looking so far ?






Like veggie said, it's close...



For a while there I was really thinking it was going to pass by just a bit, now I thinking it's going to loose by just a bit.


Most people I know that smoke, which is almost everyone, is against prop 19 :shrug: , for very stupid reasons :facepalm: . Everything from "they don't want big companies controlling this plant" to "I'm not 21 so I'm voting no"...complete ignorance


It's unfortunate...I can see where they're coming from with a few of the points they bring up, but there isn't going to be this perfect Utopian proposition for legalization of cannabis, it's just not going to happen...





We'll see what happens, I'm getting excited to see how close it ends up. Just the fact it's on the ballot is awesome :thumbup:, I got my ballot a couple days ago it's cool actually seeing it on there.






:stoner:

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Exactly. The people who smoke who are against it have the dumbest reasons and they all believe that "we will make a better prop and vote on that" well, look at how close Prop 19 is to loosing, imagine if there were less restrictions, do you think it would make it this close? No it would not. Instead of near 50/50 it would be more like 20/80 and lose.

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: openmind] * 1
    #13392493 - 10/26/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it is a damn shame when pot smokers are against being able to legally smoke, grow, and buy pot. Their reasons are so lame it should be easy to turn them.

Here is a link I posted previously that has some great stuff when talking to someone like that:
How to Debate A Marijuana User Who is Anti-Prop 19

If you don't think you can persuade somebody to vote yes, it may be easier to convince them their vote doesn't count and they should stay the fuck home. :lol:

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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: veggie]
    #13392535 - 10/26/10 09:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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If you don't think you can persuade somebody to vote yes, it may be easier to convince them their vote doesn't count and they should stay the fuck home. :lol:




+1 for you sir


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Re: George Soros gives $1m to California's pro-cannabis campaign [Re: xswaveyx]
    #13393790 - 10/27/10 03:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Found this political cartoon a few days ago:



Also, if any of you are in university, it might be a good idea to write an op-ed for the school newspaper detailing why it is important to vote yes on 19. Please see my sig for various points.


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