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America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge
    #13389587 - 10/26/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge
October 26, 2010 - telegraph.co.uk



Judge James Gray is a passionate, intense man in person. As a Superior Court Judge in the conservative area of Orange County, Gray was responsible for enforcing prohibition policies implemented by successive US governments since the 1980ss.

During his service, he came to the conclusion that locking up people for breaking drug laws was having little effect on the amount of drugs available on the street.

“We were arresting, charging, convicting and incarcerating high level sellers of drugs. Did that mean that heroin or marijuana was no longer available in that city? No, it just meant that somebody would see that as an employment opportunity,” Gray said.

According to Gray, other judges were saying in private that they too had lost faith in prohibition as a policy but did not feel they could say so in public. Gray did.

In April of 1992 he called a press conference and announced to the media that the government's tough drug policy was resulting in the law getting soft on violent criminals.

“I expected a recall from the bench, a huge public outcry but none of that happened. In fact when I came up for re-selection the District Attorney tried to get someone to run against me but they couldn't. That was very gratifying to me and my family.”

Gray welcomes the debate around the upcoming referendum on marijuana use in California.

The farming of marjiuana for medicinal purposes has been legal under Californian state law since 1996, but remains banned under US federal law.

California will be voting on November 2 whether to approve Proposition 19, a law which would legalise the drug for personal recreational use in the US state.

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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: veggie]
    #13389644 - 10/26/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hahah that's actually a damn good analogy to put the complete and utter failure that is The War on Drugs in to perspective. If I was smoking a blunt, and that gentlemen happened to be seated beside me, I would politely pass that shit to the nigga on my left.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13389692 - 10/26/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The war on drugs IS a form of slavery.  The only difference is, it isn't just blacks being affected - it's people from all walks of life.  James Gray is admirable for speaking out against this atrocious war on people.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13389826 - 10/26/10 11:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Hahah that's actually a damn good analogy to put the complete and utter failure that is The War on Drugs in to perspective. If I was smoking a blunt, and that gentlemen happened to be seated beside me, I would politely pass that shit to the nigga on my left.



Well fucking said.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: myco99]
    #13390490 - 10/26/10 01:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

props to this guy.  biggest mistake since slavery?  possibly.

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    #13390685 - 10/26/10 02:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: caradoc]
    #13390700 - 10/26/10 02:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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*claps*

Sensing a sea change here.




As am I. I'm in my mid-40's, so I remember the Reagan years and the "Just Say No" era. It is refreshing to see feelings and attitudes changing.

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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: Le_Canard]
    #13390746 - 10/26/10 02:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

fuck man that must have sucked.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: 2859558484]
    #13390993 - 10/26/10 03:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have said for years that we will look on the drug war in the future as we view slavery now.

It is suffrage, it is systematic and it ruins the lives of Millions of people.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: Dickhead]
    #13391124 - 10/26/10 04:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Awebig said:
I have said for years that we will look on the drug war in the future as we view slavery now.




I've been saying the exact same thing.  It's surprising how so many people can't step out of their own perspective and see this, it's as clear as day.  The older generation is so infused with decades of propaganda shoved down their throats, there's not much hope for them to gain a differing view point this late in their lives.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: SuperD]
    #13392091 - 10/26/10 07:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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The war on drugs IS a form of slavery.  The only difference is, it isn't just blacks being affected - it's people from all walks of life.  James Gray is admirable for speaking out against this atrocious war on people.




Yea it's definitely a form of slavery, on many different levels actually. The plot also thickens quite a bit when you actually look into the whole "conspiracy" where the CIA has been trafficking cocaine and heroin for years. They were caught with an entire plane of pure cocaine and it is a well known fact they are facilitating and overseeing the growth and production of opium in afghanistan (obviously to convert into heroin and ship into the US and sell it to their own citizens).

They have us enslaved in that regard as well as the fact that due to the fact these drugs are illegal it creates a black market so most of what's sold on the street is low grade, stepped on shit. If it wasn't illegal there wouldn't be a need for a black market and people could buy pure drugs. Harm reduction would flourish and crime rate and hospitalization/overdose deaths would plummet. But then again, if that were the case our government wouldn't be able to use said money for various "Black Ops".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking


I could go on and on about how the drug war fucks people in so many ways but I'm writing this on my phone at work.

:peace:


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13392895 - 10/26/10 10:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

into the future all drugs are going to be legal and people will look at the date today and say "wow that was stupid putting people in jail for drugs?" i think people are starting to change and not be so closed minded and starting to free themselves from there one minded personality.

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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13393050 - 10/26/10 11:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the war on drugs is like an ongoing civil war


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13393149 - 10/26/10 11:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If The Shroomery is still around in another 50 or so years, Veggie's grandkid will be posting a "This Day In History...prohibition was repealed" news thread. :lol::thumbup:


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: SuperD]
    #13393245 - 10/26/10 11:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: That would be awesome. Man, I can't even imagine 50 years from now. I'm just hoping I can do a 'This Day In History - Prop 19 passed' next year.

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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: veggie]
    #13393311 - 10/27/10 12:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't been this excited since I was a youngin' on Christmas Eve.


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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: veggie]
    #13393502 - 10/27/10 01:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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veggie said:
:lol: That would be awesome. Man, I can't even imagine 50 years from now. I'm just hoping I can do a 'This Day In History - Prop 19 passed' next year.




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Re: America's war on drugs 'biggest mistake since slavery', says judge [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13397018 - 10/27/10 07:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Plenty of intelligent and powerful people seem to be getting behind the push to end prohibition.  Why?  Because it makes GOOD sense.

The Law rips families apart, rich and poor.  These punishments are more likely to ruin people lives than the drugs ever would. 

It has always been absurd; but with the REAL information at anyone's fingertips anytime, thanks to the internet, it becomes much harder for the average person to ignore the truth..

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