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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1338046 - 02/26/03 03:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Noone is forcing us to rspond to this post. That includes you baby hitler.

Hey mush...I think it is both a  and  e :smile:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1338073 - 02/26/03 03:37 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Fade, Here is your wonderful Patriot Act in action...........

Santa Fe Police Arrest Attorney For Comments he Made In An Internet Chat-Room

A St. John&#8217;s College Library visit by a former public defender was abruptly interrupted February 13 when city police officers arrested him about 9 p.m. at the computer terminal he was using, handcuffed him, and brought him to the Santa Fe, New Mexico, police station for questioning by Secret Service agents from Albuquerque. Andrew J. O&#8217;Conner, 40, who was released about five hours later, said in the February 16 Santa Fe New Mexican, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to sue the Secret Service, Santa Fe Police, St. John&#8217;s, and everybody involved in this whole thing.&#8221;
According to O&#8217;Connor, the agents accused him of making threatening remarks about President George W. Bush in an Internet chat room. Admitting he talked politics face-to-face in the library with a woman who was wearing a &#8220;No war with Iraq&#8221; button, O&#8217;Connor recalled saying that Bush is &#8220;out of control,&#8221; but that &#8220;I&#8217;m allowed to say all that. There is this thing called freedom of speech.&#8221; He also speculated that the FBI might have been observing him because of his one-time involvement in a pro-Palestinian group in Boulder, Colorado.

Earlier on the same day O&#8217;Connor was questioned, officials at St. John&#8217;s&#8212;as well as at the College of Santa Fe and Santa Fe Community College&#8212;issued warnings to students and faculty that the FBI had been alerted to the presence of &#8220;suspicious&#8221; people on campus within the past four weeks.

Concern about threats to individual privacy under the USA Patriot Act has prompted New Mexico legislators in both houses to propose resolutions urging state police not to help federal agents infringe on civil rights. The resolutions also encourage libraries to post prominent signage warning patrons that their library records are subject to federal scrutiny without their permission or knowledge.
http://www.informationclearinghouse...article1684.htm




------------moral of the story......watch what you say about our President, it may come back to bite you in the ass.

If this doesn't scare you, than I'm afraid there is something wrong with you. (Just my opinion)




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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1338098 - 02/26/03 03:48 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

61 replies trying to squeeze a rationale for the Patriot Act out of some high school student who couldn't think his way out of an open field.

This takes my vote for the stupidest Political forum thread of all time (although I'm hoping somebody will correct me with some even dumber examples from the past).


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1338461 - 02/26/03 06:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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That is funny. I found that same website and am using that in my defense of the PA.




I've seen no defense of the ACT yet...I'm waiting to see if you can sway my opinion....

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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Anonymous]
    #1338476 - 02/26/03 06:31 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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You seem more preoccupied with (attemps at) insulting other's intelligence than actually proving your points. The sad thing is I am on the side side of the political spectrum as you



That's exactly how I feel about Alex123.


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: silversoul7]
    #1339632 - 02/27/03 07:47 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yawn....over a day.....

Information supporting your view must be hard to come by indeed! 

Your all talk and no walk.  :tongue:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1339675 - 02/27/03 07:59 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Yawn....over a day.....

Information supporting your view must be hard to come by indeed! 

Your all talk and no walk.  :tongue: 



WTF are you talking about???  :confused:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: silversoul7]
    #1339686 - 02/27/03 08:03 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sure he meant to reply to PinkWings...


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Rono]
    #1339699 - 02/27/03 08:08 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I hate it when people reply to the wrong person.


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: silversoul7]
    #1339720 - 02/27/03 08:18 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Did hell freeze this morning? For I agree. People who are too lazy to click "Reply" next to the person they are responding to, need a good beating!


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1339759 - 02/27/03 08:37 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Pinkwings...I thought I would try to be helpful and see if I could find anything to support your stance on the Patriot act, but the more I try to help..the more damning the Patriot Act appears...

Here is a list of Rights being trampled by the Patriot act...


* FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigation.

* FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records requests.

* FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

* RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

* FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

* RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

* RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.



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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: silversoul7]
    #1339780 - 02/27/03 08:45 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I hate it when people reply to the wrong person. 




hahah...me too!...sorry.... :blush: :crazy:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1339785 - 02/27/03 08:48 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Oh COME ON!!!  It was a simple error.... geess...gimme a break.... :grin:

But im glad to know your watching for post criminals!
....it'll take a sever beating though...or i might make another mistake... :crazy: :laugh:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Rono]
    #1339846 - 02/27/03 09:16 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Good points rono!....but how can they compare to fadeds defence of the patriot act? its soooo well thought out!


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Edited by Azmodeus (02/27/03 09:17 AM)


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1339855 - 02/27/03 09:19 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I suspect he's regretting ever making the comment that he supports the Patriot act. Must have been made in the heat of the moment...either that or he's writing up one hell of an essay.


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: Rono]
    #1339867 - 02/27/03 09:25 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I suspect he's regretting ever making the comment that he supports the Patriot act. Must have been made in the heat of the moment...either that or he's writing up one hell of an essay.




I suspect he's actually laughing his ass off over the fact that he got a whole bunch of otherwise intelligent people to chase after him and waste their time trying to figure out what he's thinking . . . as if it were worth knowing.


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1339915 - 02/27/03 09:41 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I bet he just had to take a giant dump.


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1339919 - 02/27/03 09:42 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

...and ran out of toilet paper.... :shocked: :crazy:


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1340058 - 02/27/03 10:27 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I bet he just had to take a giant dump.


But in order to do that, ***post edited by Rono***and we all know how much he hates doing that.


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Edited by Rono (02/27/03 10:31 AM)


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Re: Defending the patriot act [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1340396 - 02/27/03 12:11 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Quit feeding the paranoia!



Using the word paranoia while supporting the Patriot Act sounds funny to me. Oh no, terrorism is everywhere, lets sacrifice all our rights to stop it! Sounds reasonable and not paranoid at all.
And what's the deal about being patriotic? Do you have to love your country no matter what?


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