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OfflineEvilGir
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    #1336529 - 02/26/03 04:18 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hey next Ayahuasca trip I might try this it would be very funny if i could get some Top Secret shit from them. Steal all there password and lock the bastards out of there own network just before I download the lot to a public FTP. That will teach the bastards.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1336540 - 02/26/03 04:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I think you've been eating too much Ayahusca already...
Why don't you try it now? Instead of waiting....


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: moorhsum]
    #1336557 - 02/26/03 04:32 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I am just waiting for some maoi to come in the post. But what started this post was I rememberd reading somewhere the the C.I.A want to try and target Ayahuasca cos it a threat agtainst national security because of remote viewing.

Not forgetting that the C.I.A have their own remote viewing program so i just thought it would be funny to spie on the spies.

It just seems thing are getting worse :

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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1336573 - 02/26/03 04:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

What is it about Ayahuasca that makes it a better tool for remote viewing than say, LSD? I've never tried it. Have you had psychic experiences while on it?



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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: Learyfan]
    #1336580 - 02/26/03 04:44 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Not yet but I beleive that Ayahuasca is a very powerfull shamatic tool. It is way stronger than L.S.D, cos ist oral D.M.T with an Maoi. I thin if one of the plant sources such as Banisteriopsis caapi is used then you are meant to be able to controll the weather, visit other worlds and not just see them in your head but actually be there.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1336587 - 02/26/03 04:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Does it give you a euphoric feeling at all?



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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: Learyfan]
    #1336591 - 02/26/03 04:50 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well with the couple of experiences I have had so far no I Probable didnt get the doasage right yet, but either this weekend or next I will be going for a high dose, if i can manage to keep that foul tasting liqued down then see what I can do.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1338763 - 02/26/03 08:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

don't remote view government anything, if you do the government psions keep track of you, and probably fuck with you. better to practice low key till you can defend yourself.

on ayahusca may be another story, but still, i'd say keep it away from the government.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1338799 - 02/26/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I have yet to see any verifiable proof of legitimate "remote viewing"


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: Strumpling]
    #1339115 - 02/27/03 01:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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don't remote view government anything, if you do the government psions keep track of you




Doh didnt think about that thanks for the info, But the idea is still funny though.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1340846 - 02/27/03 03:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You need to lay off the Ayahuasca buddy.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: Sombie]
    #1341524 - 02/27/03 09:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

remote viewing?


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: danlennon3]
    #1341689 - 02/27/03 11:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You need to lay off the Ayahuasca buddy



I dont see why, it is a powerfull usefull tool, for self healing and exploration.
I do understand it is a more heavy duty things than shrooms and shouldnt be taken lightly. But I wana talk to the machine elfs and go for a wonder on the other side.
I probably wouldnt realy screw with the goverment though, as I said still funny idea.

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remote viewing?




Basicaly remote viewing is useing a form of meditation or substance to kinda of project your mind 1000 of miles away to a diffrent location so that you can see and hear everthing that is going on without realy being detected. So you could easly project your mind in to say area 51 and see exactly whats going on just as if you where there.

Apparently the C.I.A and other goverment agencey had a programs set up to explore this idea for spying perposes. Although I am not sure if there is any 100% proof, it seems like it could be done. The mind is a very powerfull thing if used correctly.

There is plenty more serious stuff out there but I found this link which looks intresting.

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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: truekimbo2]
    #1342199 - 02/28/03 07:42 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

"don't remote view government anything, if you do the government psions keep track of you"

Ya i also think its a bad idea, have you seen the part in the matrix, where the agent says "what good is a phone call when you can't speak"!

I don't think that exact thing will happen, but like this dude said, they would probibly fuck with your head!


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1347783 - 03/03/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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"don't remote view government anything, if you do the government psions keep track of you"




I think your right I did try the brew over the weekend, which just about failed.
But the 15 mins I did have with it where strange, I was just lieing on my bed with eyes close just trying to meditate when for no reason the thought of the pentigone just came into my mind and as soon as that happened, I could see an army of strange cratures that looked like the kkk cloak except it wasnt a cloak it actualy was that lifeform and they where all holding a staff. It was almost army like.

I think its Probalby just my mind playing tricks, some weird subconcious thing but It was DMT i was using and they could of been expecting me cos of the posting on the net. Not forgetting a dream I had that night where something was gona happen in 10 days.

But all my posts are realy only a dream anyway.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1347870 - 03/03/03 02:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Are you guys familiar with "shadow people" phenomena? if not, search for it on google.SWIM has often wondered if these shadow beings were actually psychic spies working for the government or something? Just fun stuff to think about :grin: 


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: gir]
    #1348017 - 03/03/03 04:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Are you guys familiar with "shadow people" phenomena? if not, search for it on google.SWIM has often wondered if these shadow beings were actually psychic spies working for the government or something? Just fun stuff to think about :grin: 



i wouldn't exactly call that a "fun" line of thought.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: debianlinux]
    #1349219 - 03/04/03 09:30 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah. remote viewing is one of the government's scariest arsenals. Anyone know how to defend against them? or tell-tale signs.. like hair standing up on the back of your neck or some shit like that. I have a book on it but it was written by a person who participated in the government program.. probably alot of misinformation.


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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: LoverofEarth]
    #1349322 - 03/04/03 10:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Do a little research on "Shadow People".



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Re: Remote Viewing of the c.i.a [Re: EvilGir]
    #1349421 - 03/04/03 10:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Jezu- I think the CIA discontinued their remote viewing experiments in the mid 1990s, it just wasn't working fnord. Otherwise, they would never have declassified it...

I like your humorous idea behind doing that, a kind of defiant irony- but really all you're likely do do is bum yourself out if you spend a trip meditating on spooks and Feds and what nasty secret stuff they might be up to.

Learyfan- I've never tried LSD so I can't give a first hand comparison.
But what we call remote viewing was in fact the main traditional use of ayahuasca. This effect is from the harmine more than the DMT.
I think I also read something about it being used for hunting- mentally luring tapirs into traps, etc.
But I'm still pretty doubtful of the whole thing.

I've got 'psychic' effects but always more of the "making things happen" than the "seeing things" type. I hope it was just an illusion.

Still- there's *something* very strange about ayahuasca, and DMT. Certainly, it at least feels as if, more so than other drugs, it connects you to something Out There. And even if the 'Out There' is really all just "in here," that's just as odd. Because how did all That get in here to begin with?
(sorry, hanging out in S&P too much lately.)  :crazy:  :wink:

And I'm not sure what the acid euphoria is like, but there's a sense of beauty, perfection, awe; similar to & exceeding that of psilocybin...So yeah, you would feel euphoric, if not preoccupied with puking your guts out or fearing for your sanity and/or soul.

 


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