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Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19
#13364457 - 10/20/10 10:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 October 20, 2010 - ABC7
PASADENA, Calif. (KABC) -- President Barack Obama's drug czar is taking aim at Proposition 19, the ballot measure to legalize the recreational use of marijuana in California.
First it was the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. Now President Obama's drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, says the federal government will take swift action if Californians legalize marijuana on Election Day. He says new statistics show the drug is already causing major problems in the state. But supporters of Proposition 19 say legalizing the drug won't hurt, but rather will help the situation.
The Pasadena Recovery Center is where the reality TV show "Celebrity Rehab" is filmed. Wednesday it was where Director of National Drug Control Policy Gil Kerlikowske got a firsthand look at the problem of drug addiction.
Kerlikowske says the passage of Proposition 19 will not only go against federal law, but it will make the problem of drug addiction worse. He says right now almost half of Californians getting treatment for marijuana abuse are teens, and two-thirds of them say they started using the drug at the age of 14 or younger.
"I think that once an illegal substance becomes legal, we know it's more available, more accessible and we know that California has a higher rate for people being treated for marijuana than the entire rest of the country," said Kerlikowske.
Addiction specialist and host of "Celebrity Rehab" Dr. Drew Pinsky helped lead Wednesday's tour. He says in his experience some people get addicted to pot, usually after the third use.
"People go, 'Oh my God, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me,'" said Pinsky. "And that's all they can think about from then on. They either pursue, think about, obsess about it from that day forth."
But Prop. 19 spokesperson Dale Jones says the high number of teens seeking treatment for marijuana addiction in California is directly related to the fact that pot is illegal in this state.
"The states that have the highest criminal penalties also have the highest rate of problems both with addiction and in the criminal justice system," said Jones.
She says legalizing the drug will help take the money spent on prosecuting marijuana related crimes and give it to those that are truly are dealing with an addiction.
"Cannabis is shown to be safer than any other drug. In fact, the DEA administrative law judge declared cannabis as the safest therapeutic substance on earth. However, there are folks that can become behaviorally addicted to cannabis, just like they can become addicted to things like gambling."
Thursday, a string of celebrities will be holding a news conference to show their support for Proposition 19 and the legalization of marijuana.
Some of the attendees include Grammy-award-winning singer Melissa Etheridge and actor Danny Glover.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: veggie]
#13364472 - 10/20/10 10:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kerlikowske says the passage of Proposition 19 will not only go against federal law, but it will make the problem of drug addiction worse. He says right now almost half of Californians getting treatment for marijuana abuse are teens, and two-thirds of them say they started using the drug at the age of 14 or younger.
...but Kerlikowske fails to mention that nearly ALL of those teens were ordered by the court to undergo mandatory treatment after getting busted.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: SuperD]
#13364593 - 10/20/10 11:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kerlikowske says the passage of Proposition 19 will not only go against federal law, but it will make the problem of drug addiction worse. He says right now almost half of Californians getting treatment for marijuana abuse are teens, and two-thirds of them say they started using the drug at the age of 14 or younger.
...but Kerlikowske fails to mention that nearly ALL of those teens were ordered by the court to undergo mandatory treatment after getting busted.
Indeed, ^this^ exactly...


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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: openmind]
#13364689 - 10/20/10 11:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anybody notice how Obama actually has more "Czars" than annyone ever before, when we are not even supposed to have "Czars" in this country?
Of course we aren't supposd to have illegal aliens for Presidents either.
More emperor shite from dumb-as* little emperor erkel's administration. What a loser
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: SuperD]
#13364854 - 10/21/10 12:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kerlikowske says the passage of Proposition 19 will not only go against federal law, but it will make the problem of drug addiction worse. He says right now almost half of Californians getting treatment for marijuana abuse are teens, and two-thirds of them say they started using the drug at the age of 14 or younger.
...but Kerlikowske fails to mention that nearly ALL of those teens were ordered by the court to undergo mandatory treatment after getting busted.
I thought the same....and people eat that shit up because its on the news
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: Zardos]
#13365105 - 10/21/10 02:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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for the people by the people my ass why dont we just burn the damn constitution and be done with it.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: veggie]
#13365108 - 10/21/10 02:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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> First it was the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. Now President Obama's drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, says the federal government will take swift action if Californians legalize marijuana on Election Day. He says new statistics show the drug is already causing major problems in the state. But supporters of Proposition 19 say legalizing the drug won't hurt, but rather will help the situation.
What he really says is the peoples voice doesnt count, and they dont know whats best for them. But they, the few, do.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: Mickalopagus]
#13365271 - 10/21/10 04:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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They know that if Marijuana becomes legalized and allowed to be grown they would lose BILLIONS of dollars in federal tax money because California would become the prime example for other states to legalize the herb and support for the war on hemp would be exposed and quickly diminish, leaving a void for tax demands from the federal governments own created war. Cannabis plant is as easy to grow as a tomato plant and virtually thrives in all regions of the world. Today as an illegal plant Cannabis is the largest cash crop in the U.S. raking in about 36 billion dollars into the circulation system of the U.S. economy bout 14 billion bucks into the california economy. That's money a lot of money now imagine a new marijuana market and the ability to grow your own supply legally. Can you really imagine taxing and controlling tomatoes? I'd imagine it would be quite easy to trade cannabis freely and or to buy and sell tax free.
More people would be able to smoke with confidence and free from fear of prosecution. More minds would be expanded and the government wouldn't be able to brainwash and control it's citizen's consciousness so by using fear to divide and conquer. The cannabis plant brings people together, brings unity, peace, wisdom and understanding of ones own self and thus bettering the understanding of fellow man. This little green plant is a threat to the establishment because it can make an ignorant closed minded person more open minded, happy and enlightened. And the last thing the fed gov needs is more happy like minded and enlightened citizens running around, The biggest tool the establishment of power uses on its citizens is a perpetual level of ignorance, stupidity and submission to ignorant fear which is a revolving cycle of lower awareness which kills the human spirit and locks people in their own prisons. A prison of the mind, the slave mentality, obey and submit you are a prisoner of your own mind and it's ignorance. Someone else will decide your life for you, you are merely a tool for that someone else's purpose.
TWO Face aka Obama and his Drug "Czar" kercocklicker could both suck a big fat washington dick together with their pathetic anti-marijuana ignorance. Let the California voters decide what's best for California. Those same California voters whom pay your insanely high fucking federal income taxes and all the other bullshit you demand under your corrupt beaurocracy, WE have the right to make up our own minds on the subject without big brother shoving his big nose in our business making empty threats. It's that same Drug "czar" puppet and the system with it's economic profit motive war on the cannabis plant which puts billions of dollars into the hands of the incompetent assholes on capital hill to waste on a bullshit war on a personal freedom in the so called land of the free. The land of hypocrisy at it's finest, the land of bullshit and false advertising.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: veggie]
#13365298 - 10/21/10 04:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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"I think that once an illegal substance becomes legal, we know it's more available, more accessible and we know that California has a higher rate for people being treated for marijuana than the entire rest of the country"
That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've seen in a while.
1.) It's always been easier to buy an ounce of weed than to buy a case of beer (unregulated vs. regulated) for a teenager in the US. Teenagers will get stoned, no matter what. The only way to counter serious abuse (no matter if it is alcohol or other drugs) is to openly speak and educate about it, with some facts and without all the FUD and fearmongering. Nobody buys into that reefer madness BS anymore.
2.) More people are treated there, because people on the West Coast seem to generally have a more relaxed attitude towards life when compared to the rest of the country. Weed is part of the West Coast culture (and especially Californian culture). They aren't treated because they need to be treated, but because they are forced to get treatment. I don't think I've ever met a Californian (or Oregonian) who didn't either toke every once in a while or at least had a relaxed attitude towards it.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: openmind]
#13365344 - 10/21/10 05:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kerlikowske says the passage of Proposition 19 will not only go against federal law, but it will make the problem of drug addiction worse. He says right now almost half of Californians getting treatment for marijuana abuse are teens, and two-thirds of them say they started using the drug at the age of 14 or younger.
...but Kerlikowske fails to mention that nearly ALL of those teens were ordered by the court to undergo mandatory treatment after getting busted.
Indeed, ^this^ exactly...


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"People go, 'Oh my God, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me,'" said Pinsky. "And that's all they can think about from then on. They either pursue, think about, obsess about it from that day forth."
The greatest thing that's ever happened to me? wow, that sounds HORRIBLE! How horrific... enjoying something, wanting to re-experience something, thats just horrible. Imagine if sex/pornography was like that, or using the internet, or smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol, or eating a certain food.
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Re: Drug czar in Calif. to oppose Proposition 19 [Re: guest1]
#13369581 - 10/22/10 12:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr. Drew.
what a letdown statement from that guy.
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