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OfflineBigJohnson
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When it comes to potency, which matters more?
    #1335454 - 02/25/03 05:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Strain of cubensis or substrate?

If you say strain, which?

If you say substrate, which?

From another post, it would seem poo is best for potency.

What is your experience?


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335460 - 02/25/03 05:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Iv heard WBS does wonders.


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: Legoulash]
    #1335492 - 02/25/03 05:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It does.


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335496 - 02/25/03 05:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335781 - 02/25/03 07:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

There are way too many factors to give you definite answers,but it's a combination of both.If TC on a PFcake was compared to Creeper on dung,you'd see a world of difference. It's proven that different substrate has different effects on potency,but there is no scientific documentation that proves the differing potencies between strains,although I personally hold the belief that different strains have varying potencies.if I said anything in error,someone please correct me.


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335793 - 02/25/03 07:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I think a big Johnson is imperative.


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335867 - 02/25/03 07:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry if you took that the wrong way. Bluemeanie posted on this study: "Stivje and DeMeijer have already proven a .3% variation in psilocin between different spore-races of Psilocybe cubensis." I really think it's how individual strains affect the individual though. This guy I know picks Psilocybe cyanescens every fall, and  :grin: :grin: :grin: they are truly potent. Bluemeanie, what about psilocybin?


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335877 - 02/25/03 07:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

My aquaintance has just grown creepers on both dung and grain. He has not tested them. However, the dung shrooms, be them huge ass fruits or half grown tiny fruits, blued about 300 % more than the grain grown. Now, I have no true idea about what exactly this indicates. Some people say that the more bluing the more potent. Maybe i can tell you for sure in a few days, if he decides to try em


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: Hexum311]
    #1335899 - 02/25/03 08:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

What about WBS flour? Anyone try it?


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335919 - 02/25/03 08:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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Edited by BigJohnson (02/25/03 08:36 PM)


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1335923 - 02/25/03 08:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bulk dung based substrate or compost,  grain, millet or WBS spawn, 100% colonized, well cased (pH balanced) & fruited under optimal enviro's, will get you potent cubes, no matter the strain.

Sometimes -- some are better than others, other times -- not. To many personal, material ,  cultivation methods & enviro varibles -- involved.

As for potency, again to many variables involved (as in your age, weight, health condition, sobiety, on & on).

They are all good. Some are just better, than others.................... :smile:

Example, give two (2) folks the same exact spore stain (in a multi/spore syringe) & let them have at it. The results VARY, time & time again.

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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1336493 - 02/26/03 03:16 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Look at it this way.  I doubt whatever you do you are ever going to say, double the potency through strain selection or substrate.  On the other hand I would say that there is a pretty good chance that you could simpily produce twice as many (or more) shrooms.

I'm nobody.

P.S. This may be a bit off topic but it is still pertinant informatin. :grin:


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Re: When it comes to potency, which matters more? [Re: Hexum311]
    #1337421 - 02/26/03 11:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

blued about 300 % more than the grain grown. Some people say that the more bluing the more potent.




Blueing doesnt indicate anything, it is just bruising.  Take the mushies from your friend's grain batch and beat the hell out of it with a stick, I assure you that it will probably be as blue as the poo ones.  :smile:  GL 


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