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 iconoclast
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 alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs 
#1335059 - 02/25/03 01:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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first things first- THE SHROOMERY IS A F*CKING GREAT WEBSITE AND I
JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO EVEYONE WHO MAKES IT HAPPEN !!!!!!!!
SWIM (someone who isnt me) was growing great, eating well and raking in the cash, all the while perfecting his growing ability. Poor swim, just a few weeks ago he moved in with some people who wouldn't appreciate his hobby, probably even get angry and swim would be out of a house. So he thought about what he could do to remedy this situation? And then it hits him-- what if there is a legal, non-hallucinegenic mushroom species that has all the same sterile, climatal, environment and other requirements as your average cubie, but doesn't produce psilosybin (<-- sorry  ) and most importantly can have swim with a roof over his head. I'm sure swim isn't the first to think this, so if any body of knows of any species like the one swim needs he could continue to pursue these mycological arts and perfect his technique. thanx ICONOCLAST
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: iconoclast]
#1335072 - 02/25/03 01:50 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oysters would be a good way to practice with straw. Shitake would be good practice for wood lovers.
Both would be good for practice making grain spawn.
SWIM could start learning agar, and could start collecting agar cultures of, you know, whatever. 
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1335082 - 02/25/03 01:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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would i use the same exact process or are there any modifications in any of the steps , oh yea I plan on casing.
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: iconoclast]
#1335095 - 02/25/03 01:58 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oysters dont even look like mushrooms.. you couldnt sell those...
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: ]
#1335237 - 02/25/03 02:25 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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he doesnt care what they look like, he's not trying to rip people off, just trying to perfect casing so when he can grow the real thing he does'nt have to fuck around. when you say Oysters i'm asuming you mean a mushroom variety not a tasty crustation.
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: iconoclast]
#1335275 - 02/25/03 02:34 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, oyster mushrooms. Sporeworks sells syringes of Oyster, and Shitake.
I don't think either of those are cased though. Oyster is the easiest of the two, and probably the best choice.
Search in the gourmet, and medicinal forum for Oyster and Pleurotus.
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1335301 - 02/25/03 02:42 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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juvinile genecider- i'll do some studyinup on those two, but do you know of a species that can be cased, preferably one that has the same risk of contam as a cubie????
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: iconoclast]
#1335573 - 02/25/03 03:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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annyyyybbbbbooooodddddddyyyyyyyyyy?????????
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hsalf
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: iconoclast]
#1335615 - 02/25/03 04:07 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your contam rate doesn't have to do with the strain of mush. If they both colonize at about the same rate. You were just told oysters. relax. and when you come across a pearl use it to get a new place to live
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 Che_Night_Soil
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: iconoclast]
#1335701 - 02/25/03 04:35 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Really, you could tell them just about anything...unless you think they're going to get all serious about researching your project. How inquisitive do you think they'll get? I think how you act about it (remain casual) will be a huge factor.
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar needs [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
#1335724 - 02/25/03 04:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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they know all about swims hobby and would need proof that they are legal mushrooms before theyd be ok with it.
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: hsalf]
#1335751 - 02/25/03 04:53 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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i thought panealous species were harder to grow because they were more suseptable to contamination amoung other things, i could be wrong please correct me if i am. i will probably try the oyster mushs. and i hope they produce a really big pearl.
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: iconoclast]
#1335757 - 02/25/03 04:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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When they ask for a sample?
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: iconoclast]
#1335903 - 02/25/03 06:08 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does he have, or have access to a Pressure Cooker?
If so, I'd do an oyster syringe to grain to straw.
Use Vision's laundry basket tek.
he might could case straw, or sawdust, but nothing's going to be JUST like cubensis.
I say get some agar, and petri dishes or wide mouth half pints, and a syringe of oyster mycelium.
Start some grain jars, then transfer some to peroxidated agar. Then keep it alive on agar so you don't have to keep buying syringes.
Use the rest of the grain to spawn whatever. You might could case the grain directly, I'm not sure.
That, minus casing grains directly, is what I'm about to do whenever my damn oyster syringe gets here. 
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1338105 - 02/26/03 01:51 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanx baby, thats the kind of response i was hoping for, do you recomend any vendors, probably not the one you went through?
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: iconoclast]
#1339449 - 02/27/03 04:17 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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You might be able to get away with a small scale grow if you do it super covert. Imagine a tuperware container only 4-5 inches tall and maybe a square foot base. A casing inside with a short growing species. I would recomend mazatapec. All you would have to do is air it out once a day. Or if you want to do a bigger scale cube grow, grow some portabelos next to a species that resembles them, like Golden Teacher. They should grow on the same medium. When your roomies want to eat some to be sure, just give them the portabelo, or the real thing for a good joke  hehe
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iconoclast
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: CosmicTourist]
#1341069 - 02/27/03 03:24 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats actually what swim was doing while swim was still with my parents, its sooo easy to get a few cake's to fruit in a small rubermaid (7'/ 12'/ 10'), and have enough for you and a friend, and thats a great idea for people who have that much "safe" room, but swim has none and have opted to go the safe route and just grow some gormets--- but great suggestion for many, oh yeah.....perlite, perlite, perlite
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Re: alternative, non-hallucinegenic mushroom with similar ne [Re: iconoclast]
#1341270 - 02/27/03 04:43 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sporeworks, or Shamanshop.net for the Live Culture Syringe , Myco Supply for the agar, and petri dishes.
Wall-Mart for jars, and Popcorn. I don't know where you might find rye or wheat. I'm just going to use popcorn.
Straw from Lowes, Hope Depot, or Farmer's Co-Op.
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Edited by Baby_Hitler (02/27/03 04:55 PM)
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