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[CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’
#13349899 - 10/17/10 08:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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A sheriff that states publicly that he will refuse to obey the law. Lee Baca is a dangerous man and needs to be removed from office ...
L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ October 16, 2010 - newsjunkiepost.com
Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said on Friday that the voters don’t matter. His deputies’ enforcement of marijuana laws would not change even if voters approved Proposition 19, which would legalize cannabis in California, on November 2, according to the Sheriff. “Proposition 19 is not going to pass, even if it passes,” Baca said in a news conference Friday at sheriff’s headquarters in Monterey Park, reports Robert Faturechi in The Los Angeles Times.
The department run by Sheriff Baca polices 75 percent of Los Angeles County. His staunch opposition to marijuana — even if it is legalized — was echoed Friday by an announcement from Attorney General Eric Holder that federal officials would continue to “vigorously enforce” cannabis laws in California, even if state voters pass the measure.
Baca, who is sworn to uphold California state law, claimed Prop 19 was superseded by federal law and if passed, would be found unconstitutional.
Standing onstage with other prominent opponents of marijuana legalization, including Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley, Sheriff Baca colorfully assailed marijuana use, users and sales.
Asked if he had ever experimented with pot, Baca left no room for doubt. “Hell, no,” he said.
Baca claimed legalizing cannabis would have far-reaching effects, including increasing the costs of drug rehabilitation (although most people in rehab for marijuana have been forced there by court order), causing traffic accidents (although marijuana is not a significant factor in auto wrecks), prompting labor disputes with employees getting high on the job (although Prop 19 gives employers the right “to address consumption that actually impairs job performance“), and providing a safe cover for drug cartels selling hard drugs. California’s laws for pot smokers are already lenient enough, Baca claimed.
“If you a need for an ounce or less… then use your marijuana, but use it privately,” Baca said. “If you want to do a joint in your house, do it. Leave the rest of us alone.”
Baca claimed personal users smoking at home were already a non-priority for police agencies, including the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department. His department does target pot dealers, he said.
The sheriff came out against Prop 19 early on, joining with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) to try to prevent its passage. Polls have shown California voters are almost evenly split on legalization.
Incredibly, Baca claimed on Friday that local law enforcement agencies — which, again, are sworn to uphold state laws — should abide by federal drug laws prohibiting marijuana, even if Prop 19 passes.
“[Prop] 19 has no effect on what we’re going to do,” Baca said.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: veggie]
#13349945 - 10/17/10 08:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bring it on piggy
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: veggie]
#13349961 - 10/17/10 08:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What a jackass.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: veggie]
#13349962 - 10/17/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why does L.A. County keep electing these stupid Nazi-like Sheriffs?
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: Le_Canard]
#13349976 - 10/17/10 08:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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haha oh man I was laughing hard reading through that whole article. This guy thinks he's above the law. Obviously he needs to be removed from his position as soon as possible. What an ignorant bald headed beady eyed cunt this idiot is.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: wowwtf]
#13350000 - 10/17/10 08:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol, what a dumbass. I am a bit curious however as to how the police are going to deal with Prop 19 if it passes. State police can't arrest someone for a federal crime, can they?
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: paridiso]
#13350011 - 10/17/10 08:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will personally dedicate myself to ruining this mans professional life if he seriously opposes, under color of law, a referendum measure by the majority of Californians.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: rodfarva]
#13350027 - 10/17/10 08:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Need to find out how to vote this piece of shit out of any position of authority.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: wowwtf]
#13350055 - 10/17/10 09:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm willing to write some emails detailing the public's distaste for his strategies if anyone knows where to send them to.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: wowwtf]
#13350095 - 10/17/10 09:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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--- He looks evil doesn't he? Sounds like someone is about to get fired.  He claims to be a marijuana expert, but has never tried it. That is like claiming to be an expert on flying an airplane without ever even sitting in the drivers seat. Shame on him. Quote:
Asked if he had ever experimented with pot, Baca left no room for doubt. “Hell, no,” he said.
As in "Satan told me not to".
Even though Baca has never tried marijuana, he claims legalizing cannabis would have far-reaching effects, including increasing the costs of drug rehabilitation (although most people in rehab for marijuana have been forced there by court order or given the option of rehab or jail), causing traffic accidents (although marijuana is not a significant factor in auto wrecks), prompting labor disputes with employees getting high on the job (although Prop 19 gives employers the right “to address consumption that actually impairs job performance“), and providing a safe cover for drug cartels selling hard drugs (huh?). Beca is a failure.
“If you a need for an ounce or less… then use your marijuana, but use it privately,” Baca said. “If you want to do a joint in your house, do it. Leave the rest of us alone.” Wait, did he say "If you a need for" what does that mean? "use your marijuana" and "do a joint"? Leave the rest of us alone? What do you mean? Is he drunk?
Baca claimed personal users smoking at home were already a non-priority for police agencies, including the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department. His department does target pot dealers, he said.
OK, so you don't target users who smoke at home without you knowing about it, but you target the people that sell the pot to the people that you don't target. You can't have people with pot, unless you have people to provide the pot. If you can't grow it yourself legally, then you have to get it from someone else. If someone else has to pay for it, they are going to have to sell it to you to get it. That is like saying "We don't care if you eat McDonalds food, but we will arrest McDonalds workers for selling you the food". So let's see, you arrest all the providers so that nobody is providing it, and you don't allow people to make their own, but you don't mind if people have their own. Your intention is to try to eliminate all the marijuana so that nobody has any at all. This means you are indirectly targeting people who use it privately in their own home.
Beca is stupid.
Again, it is the people who PROFIT (off easy targets), that are against Prop 19. They know pot heads don't put up physical fights, they know their generally very kind people, unlike drunks who can be dangerous to deal with. To them, busting pot dealers and pot heads is easy money. They don't care that they break up families and throw nice citizens in jail for just smoking a plant that doesn't harm other people or make them violent or more likely to commit a crime. They just want that easy money. Since so many people smoke weed, they have a high chance of probability of busting any random person they harass.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: realfuzzhead]
#13350127 - 10/17/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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To douchecop:
If it's legal under state law you can take it from me anyway and that's not theft? I fucking hope you're telling the truth about not targeting personal users in their homes, because if it's legal and somebody other than the Feds themselves comes in to take it from me there's gonna be gunplay just like if you walked in my house and tried to take my 1000$+ LCD tv. I am not gonna be missing with a pump down my hallway, either.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: veggie]
#13350134 - 10/17/10 09:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm typically not into stereotyping, but just look at the guy in the picture. You can tell he isn't very intelligent.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: Le_Canard]
#13350139 - 10/17/10 09:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
ToiletDuk said: Why does L.A. County keep electing these stupid Nazi-like Sheriffs?
Christians, basically. Their whole mantra is pretty nazi-tastic anyway.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: guest1]
#13350175 - 10/17/10 09:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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i could see this getting uglious..especially in the face of a neo-fascist US congress...
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: SuperD]
#13350190 - 10/17/10 09:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
SuperD said: I'm typically not into stereotyping, but just look at the guy in the picture. You can tell he isn't very intelligent.
You don't have to pass an IQ test to be a Senator!
Or a sheriff or whatever, in this case.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: blujay]
#13350221 - 10/17/10 09:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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he looks like the spawn of the devil
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: blujay]
#13350256 - 10/17/10 09:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't see how they can claim that employers would be forced to let employees smoke on the job. A business is private property and property owners can say what goes on their property. I worked at a factory where you could be sent home if you get caught smoking on factory property.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: SgtFloyd]
#13350360 - 10/17/10 10:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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its rare that i will hate someone i havent met but this man has done it for me. why does this have to be so hard? i bet this stupid ass had a beer after this interview. he is wrong, prop 19 will pass and things will be set right. it is our right to get high!
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: Revolutionine]
#13350407 - 10/17/10 10:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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This man should be fucking castrated.
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Re: [CA] L.A. Sheriff: Pot Legalization ‘Not Going To Pass, Even If It Passes’ [Re: stew248]
#13350670 - 10/18/10 12:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Baca claimed personal users smoking at home were already a non-priority for police agencies, including the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department"
Yeah California, there's no need to pass prop19 because they don't prosecute it anyway, haha
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