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Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize
#13339367 - 10/15/10 09:46 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize October 15, 2010 - Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General Eric Holder says the federal government will enforce its marijuana laws in California even if the state's voters approve a ballot measure to legalize the drug.
Holder says the Justice Department strongly opposes California's Proposition 19 and remains firmly committed to enforcing the federal Controlled Substances Act in all states.
He made the comments in a letter to former chiefs of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the letter, dated Wednesday.
"We will vigorously enforce the CSA against those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture or distribute marijuana for recreational use, even if such activities are permitted under state law," Holder wrote.
He also said that legalizing recreational marijuana in California would be a "significant impediment" to the government's joint efforts with state and local law enforcement to target drug traffickers, who often distribute marijuana alongside cocaine and other drugs. Holder said approval of the ballot measure would "significantly undermine" efforts to keep California communities safe.
If Proposition 19 passes in November, California would become the first state to legalize and regulate recreational pot use. Adults could possess up to one ounce of the drug.
California already allows medical marijuana.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: veggie]
#13339420 - 10/15/10 09:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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wtf thats bullshit
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: veggie]
#13339423 - 10/15/10 09:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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When will we be voting to change the federal law?
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: SummerDaisies]
#13339430 - 10/15/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: Simplepowa]
#13339444 - 10/15/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Federal law > state laws.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: veggie]
#13339469 - 10/15/10 10:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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That sure sounds like a threat. But I can't envision the feds sending in tanks and troops to go after pot smokers in California. Washington has to stand down and accept the will of the people and focus on more important things. Plus the Democrats, if they want to stay in office, can't afford to alienate a whole state and the millions of people across the country that support them.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH] 1
#13339480 - 10/15/10 10:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Federal law > state laws.
Federal Law is not greater than state law. 10th Amendment all rights not here within are reserved for the states.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: downlowfunk]
#13339505 - 10/15/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Federal law > state laws.
Federal Law is not greater than state law. 10th Amendment all rights not here within are reserved for the states.
Yea, and within are laws against marijuana.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH]
#13339507 - 10/15/10 10:17 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Federal law > state laws.
Veggie > Holder
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH]
#13339539 - 10/15/10 10:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: When will we be voting to change the federal law?
Unfortunately that will never happen. American is intentionally a repbulic because it allows for corruption. If people were to vote on individuals issues there would be no corrupt politicians.
As for Holder. All I can say is Nucky Thompson (Johnson if you're not watching Boardwalk Empire)
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: veggie]
#13339593 - 10/15/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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veggie said: I can't envision the feds sending in tanks and troops to go after pot smokers in Calif.
I've often wondered whether California would secede some day. I assumed water would be the trigger, but maybe not.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: Darwin23]
#13339604 - 10/15/10 10:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holder can go eat the corn outta my shit, the asshole.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH]
#13339659 - 10/15/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wrote: "Federal Law is not greater than state law. 10th Amendment all rights not here within are reserved for the states."
Some ignorant person wrote: "Yea, and within are laws against marijuana."
Are you from America? are you Young, from an inner city? Something is wrong with your knowledge of the U.S. Constitution.
There is no anti drug law in the U.S. Constitution. Drug Laws are really statutes that are only applicable when jurisdiction is established. California's Jurisdiction trumps Federal Jurisdiction because of the 10th Amendment.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: downlowfunk]
#13339714 - 10/15/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Didn't say there were laws in the constitution about it, Federal law says marijuana is illegal, state passes law legalizing, federal law trumps state law, any questions?
"SUPREMACY CLAUSE "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." U.S. Const. art. VI, Paragraph 2"
I guess you're either young or just not a citizen of the USA
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH]
#13339779 - 10/15/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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We need a Marijuana Amendment on the bill of rights. It is our right as a people to get high.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: PreparationH]
#13339784 - 10/15/10 11:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not question, fact:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
CSA isn't in the constitution.
case closed.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: Tri High]
#13339843 - 10/15/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"We will vigorously enforce .... even if such activities are permitted under state law"
They are saying "We don't care what you vote on, we will do what we want anyway"
Go ahead, see what happens.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: guest1]
#13339868 - 10/15/10 11:34 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bring it on you federalist pussies, see what the fuck happens if you try to over-ride our POPULAR VOTE.
California's gunna win this one, and the feds can cry all the fuck they want but mark my words, we will fucking fight back.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: realfuzzhead]
#13339884 - 10/15/10 11:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: Bring it on you federalist pussies, see what the fuck happens if you try to over-ride our POPULAR VOTE.
California's gunna win this one, and the feds can cry all the fuck they want but mark my words, we will fucking fight back.
Seriously. 70 years of drug war bullshit and Californians have finally had enough.
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Re: Attorney general says US will still enforce its marijuana laws even if Calif. voters legalize [Re: guest1]
#13339927 - 10/15/10 11:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"We will vigorously enforce .... even if such activities are permitted under state law"
They are saying "We don't care what you vote on, we will do what we want anyway"
Go ahead, see what happens.

Argument goes both ways though, consider civil rights. Not the same thing but sort of similar, states vs feds.
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