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The Men Behind the War
    #1333318 - 02/25/03 04:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

My dad just emailed this to me. Pretty long read, but interesting, nonetheless.


Guardian | Two men driving Bush into
>war http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4611488,00.html
>
>Two men driving Bush into war
>
>Ed Vulliamy in New York profiles the religious figures behind a
'Texanised
>presidency' who believe war will mean America is respected in the
Islamic
>world
>
>Ed Vulliamy
>Sunday February 23, 2003
>The Observer
>
>Behind President George W. Bush's charge to war against Iraq, there is
a
>carefully devised mission, drawn up by people who work over the
shoulders of
>those whom America calls 'The Principals'.
>
>Lurking in the background behind Bush, his Vice-President, Dick
Cheney, and
>Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld are the people propelling US policy.
And
>behind them, the masterminds of the Bush presidency as it arrived at
the
>White House from Texas, are Karl Rove and Paul Wolfowitz.
>
>It is too simple to explain the upcoming war as 'blood for oil', as
did
>millions of placards last weekend, for Rove and Wolfowitz are
ideologists
>beyond the imperatives of profit. They represent an unlikely and
formidable
>alliance forged between the gritty Texan Republicans who took over
America,
>fuelled by fierce conservative Christianity, and a faction of the East
Coast
>intelligentsia with roots in Ronald Reagan's time, devoted to
achieving raw,
>unilateral power.
>
>Rove and Wolfowitz have worked for decades to reach their moment, and
that
>moment has come as war draws near. Bush calls Rove, depending on his
mood,
>'Boy Genius' or 'Turd Blossom'. Rove is one of a new political breed -
the
>master craftsmen - nurturing a 24-year political campaign of his own
design,
>but careful not to expose who he really is.
>
>His Christian faith is a weapon of devastating cogency, but he never
>discusses it; no one knows if his politics are religious or politics
are his
>religion. A Christmas Day child born in Denver, as a boy he had a
poster
>above his bed reading 'Wake Up, America!' As a student, he was a
fervent
>young Republican who pitched himself against the peace movement.
>
>His first bonding with Bush was not over politics, but the two men's
>ideological and moral distaste for the Sixties - after Bush's
born-again
>conversion from alcoholism to Christianity. Rove was courted by George
Bush
>Snr during his unsuccessful bid to be the Republican presidential
candidate
>for 1980.
>
>But Rove's genius would show later, on Bush senior's election to the
White
>House in 1988, when he co-opted the right-wing Christian Coalition -
wary of
>Bush's lack of theocratic stridency - into the family camp.
>
>Conservative Southern Protestantism was a constituency Bush Jr
befriended
>and kept all the way to Washington, defining both his own political
>personality and the new-look Republican Party.
>
>When Rove answered the call to come to Texas in 1978, every state
office was
>held by a Democrat. Now, almost all of them are Republican. Every
Republican
>campaign was run by Rove and in 1994 his client - challenging for the
state
>governorship - was a man he knew well: George W. Bush.
>'Rove and Bush came to an important strategic conclusion,' writes Lou
>Dubose, Rove's biographer. 'To govern on behalf of the corporate
Right, they
>would have to appease the Christian Right.'
>
>Bush's six years as Texas governor were a dry run for national
domestic
>policy - steered by Rove - as President: lavish favours to the energy
>industry, tax breaks for the upper income brackets and social policy
driven
>by evangelical zeal.
>
>Bush had been governor for only a year when, as Rove says, it 'dawned
on me'
>he should run for President; two years later, in 1997, he began
secretly
>planning the campaign. In March 1999, Bush ordered Rove to sell his
>consulting firm - 'he wanted 120 per cent of his attention,' says a
former
>employee, 'full-time, day and night'.
>
>Rove hatched and ran the presidential campaign, deploying the Bush
family
>Rolodex and the might of the oil industry and unleashing the most
vigorous
>direct-mailing blizzard of all time. 'If the devil is in the
details,'
>writes Dubose, 'he had found Rove waiting to greet him when he got
there.'
>
>By the time George W. became President, Rove was the hub of a Texan
wheel
>connecting the family, the party, the Christian Right and the energy
>industry. A single episode serves as metaphor: during the Enron
scandal last
>year, a shadow was cast over Rove when it was revealed that he had
sold
>$100,000 of Enron stock just before the firm went bankrupt.
>
>More intriguing, however, was the fact that Rove had personally
arranged for
>the former leader of the Christian Coalition, Ralph Reed, to take up
a
>consultancy at Enron - Bush's biggest single financial backer - worth
>between $10,000 and $20,000 a month.
>
>This was the machine of perpetual motion that Rove built. His
accomplishment
>was the 'Texanisation' of the national Republican Party under the
leadership
>of the Bush family and to take that party back to presidential office
after
>eight years. Rove is unquestionably the most powerful policy adviser
in the
>White House.
>
>Militant Islam was another world from Rove's. However, on 11
September,
>2001, it became a new piece of political raw material needing urgent
>attention. Rove and Bush had been isolationists, wanting as little to
do
>with the Middle East - or any other corner of the planet - as
possible. But
>suddenly there was a new arena in which to work for political results:
and,
>as Rove entered it, he met and was greeted by a group of people who
had for
>years been as busy as he in crafting their political model; this time,
the
>export of unchallenged American power across the world.
>
>Rove in theory has no role in foreign policy, but Washington insiders
agree
>he is now as preoccupied with global affairs as he is with those at
home. In
>a recent book, conservative staff speech writer David Frum recalls
the
>approach of the presidency towards Islam after the attacks and
criticises
>Bush as being 'soft on Islam' for his emphasis on a 'religion of
peace'.
>
>Rove, writes Frum, was 'drawn to a very different answer'. Islam,
Rove
>argued, 'was one of the world's great empires' which had 'never
>reconciled... to the loss of power and dominion'. In response, he
said, 'the
>United States should recognise that, although it cannot expect to be
loved,
>it can enforce respect'.
>
>Rove's position dovetailed with the beliefs of Paul Wolfowitz, and the
axis
>between conservative Southern Protestantism and fervent, highly
>intellectual, East Coast Zionism was forged - each as zealous about
their
>religion as the other.
>
>There is a shorthand view of Wolfowitz as a firebrand hawk, but he is
more
>like Rove than that - patient, calculating, logical, soft-spoken and
>deliberate. Wolfowitz was a Jewish son of academe, a brilliant scholar
of
>mathematics and a diplomat. When he joined the Pentagon after the Yom
Kippur
>war, he set about laying out what is now US policy in the Middle
East.
>
>In 1992, just before Bush's father was defeated by Bill Clinton,
Wolfowitz
>wrote a blueprint to 'set the nation's direction for the next
century',
>which is now the foreign policy of George W. Bush. Entitled 'Defence
>Planning Guidance', it put an onus on the Pentagon to 'establish and
protect
>a new order' under unchallenged American authority.
>
>The US, it said, must be sure of 'deterring potential competitors from
even
>aspiring to a larger regional or global role' - including Germany and
Japan.
>It contemplated the use of nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry
>pre-emptively, 'even in conflicts that do not directly engage US
interests'.
>Wolfowitz's group formalised itself into a group called Project for
the New
>American Century, which included Cheney and another old friend,
former
>Pentagon Under-Secretary for Policy under Reagan, Richard Perle.
>
>In a document two years ago, the Project pondered that what was needed
to
>assure US global power was 'some catastrophic and catalysing event,
like a
>new Pearl Harbor'. The document had noted that 'while the unresolved
>conflict with Iraq provides immediate justification' for intervention,
'the
>need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends
the
>issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein'.
>
>At a graduation speech to the Military Academy at West Point, Bush
last June
>affirmed the Wolfowitz doctrine as official policy. 'America has, and
>intends to keep,' he said, 'military strengths beyond challenge.'
>
>At the Pentagon, Wolfowitz and his boss Rumsfeld set up an
intelligence
>group under Abram Schulsky and the Under-Secretary for Defence,
Douglas
>Feith, both old friends of Wolfowitz. The group's public face is the
>semi-official Defence Policy Board, headed by Perle. Perle and Feith
wrote a
>paper in 1996 called 'A Clean Break' for the then leader of Israel's
Likud
>bloc, Binyamin Netanyahu; the clean break was from the Oslo peace
process.
>Israel's 'claim to the land (including the West Bank) is legitimate
and
>noble,' said the paper. 'Only the unconditional acceptance by Arabs of
our
>rights is a solid basis for the future.' At the State Department, the
>'Arabist' faction of regional experts favouring the diplomacy of
alliances
>in the area was drowned out by the hawks, markedly by another new unit
with
>favoured access to the White House.
>
>And in Rove's White House, with his backing, the circle was closed and
the
>last piece of the jigsaw was put in place, with the appointment of
Elliot
>Abrams to handle policy for the Middle East, for the National
Security
>Council.
>
>Abrams is another veteran of Reagan days and the 'dirty wars' in
Central
>America, convicted by Congress for lying alongside Colonel Oliver
North over
>the Iran-Contra scandal, but pardoned by President Bush's father.
>
>He has since written a book warning that American Jewry faces
extinction
>through intermarriage and has counselled against the peace process and
for
>the righteousness of Ariel Sharon's Israel. He is Wolfowitz's man,
talking
>every day to his office neighbour, Rove.
>
>Guardian Unlimited ? Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003



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Re: The Men Behind the War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1333663 - 02/25/03 06:28 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Bump!


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Re: The Men Behind the War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1333714 - 02/25/03 06:46 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

That is deeply disturbing.... :tongue:


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Re: The Men Behind the War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1335327 - 02/25/03 02:49 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

It's a Twilight Zone episode of West Wing with guest star Elliot Abrams.

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Re: The Men Behind the War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1352627 - 03/05/03 12:27 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: The Men Behind the War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1353334 - 03/05/03 07:18 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

Enlightening and ominous. There's mention of Wolfowitz and Perle, but I don't think Rove, in the article I just posted. (The Master Plan)

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