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[AU] Three charged over massive kava haul
    #13322456 - 10/11/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Weird that you can get arrested for kava in Australia while in the USA, and most other places, you can buy it in most drug stores and in bulk at herb and health food stores...

Three charged over massive kava haul
October 11, 2010 - abc.net.au

Three men are facing serious drugs charges after police seized nearly $200,000 worth of kava near a remote Northern Territory community.

Police say it is one of the biggest kava seizures in recent years.

They will allege the men were driving near Oenpelli, about 300 kilometres east of Darwin, trying to deliver drugs to nearby communities and outstations.

Officers stopped and searched the car because one of the men was drinking a beer.

They found a large amount of alcohol, 50 grams of cannabis and 190 kilograms of kava hidden inside the car's doors.

A 47-year-old, a 23-year-old and a 19-year-old man have been charged with possessing dangerous drugs and supplying kava without a licence.

They are due to face court later this month.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: veggie]
    #13322646 - 10/11/10 07:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird that you can get arrested for kava in Australia while in the USA, and most other places, you can buy it in most drug stores and in bulk at herb and health food stores...




Think of geographical proximity for an explanatory analogy. The South Pacific islanders have used kava for a long time, and yet in a neighboring 'developed' country colonized by Europeans, it is forbidden. Similarly, in South America coca has been used for along time by indigenous peoples, while the surrounding 'developing' nations (including us) prohibit it. Or, look at India, where cannabis has been used ceremonially for a long time and is tolerated, while in a nearby country, China, which is in some ways politically infatuated with modernity, it is prohibited.

Just an observation.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Arden]
    #13323066 - 10/11/10 09:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i have kava pills but honestly they arnt that great, i prefer kratom.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Shroom lover]
    #13323447 - 10/11/10 10:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Weird! You can buy kava powder at the groceries in New Zealand, which culturally isn't terribly different from Oz (although don't say that to a kiwi).


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Grok]
    #13323492 - 10/11/10 10:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I say if they can stomach that shit, then let 'em have it. We have a Kava Bar in my town, I tried it. Once. Just once.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Grok]
    #13323959 - 10/12/10 12:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird! You can buy kava powder at the groceries in New Zealand, which culturally isn't terribly different from Oz (although don't say that to a kiwi).




yeah your rather clued up grok :rolleyes: culturally, the cities are very similar. although rural areas have quite distinctly more laid back attitudes here at least.

i have bought 500gm bags of kava from my local supermarket. i dont understand at all why you would prohibit it, so mild and not very palatable, and as far as i know the only real health problem is dermatitis associated with heavy long term use.

that is sad that responsible adults are not allowed to decide whether or not dermatitis is a side effect they can tolerate from their recreational drugs or not. fuckin nanny state


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: fostaar]
    #13324297 - 10/12/10 04:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You can't buy kava herb in the country, but you can get tablets that supply 60mg kavalactones per pill. You can import the herb, up to a certain amount or bring it back on a plane up to a certain amount too, my friend brought me back some fijian kava for my b/day this year.
Also you can't buy 5-htp in most (if not all) states in Australa, although you can import a max 3 months supply from another country, silly I know.

It is outright illegal in some indiginous communities and they have "Kava Free Zones" since they had a huge abuse problem with it. I think that may be just in the Northern Territory


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: PsiPhi]
    #13324356 - 10/12/10 05:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

those rules seem to serve no purpose except to annoy people who want kava. very strange.

also, not to sound racist or ignorant but dont some indigenous communities also have huge abuse problems revolving around solvents and victoria bitter? probably not annoying to get a hold of petrol at all.



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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Grok]
    #13324363 - 10/12/10 05:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird! You can buy kava powder at the groceries in New Zealand, which culturally isn't terribly different from Oz (although don't say that to a kiwi).



:megacrankey:
The fuck?
kiwis are nowhere near the same as Aussies.
Its because of the "indigenous" people up north, its true im not being racist. lol in some places you cant drive petrol powered cars. fucking aboriginals.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: lucas_southoz]
    #13326162 - 10/12/10 02:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird! You can buy kava powder at the groceries in New Zealand, which culturally isn't terribly different from Oz (although don't say that to a kiwi).



The fuck?
kiwis are nowhere near the same as Aussies.





Dude I never said ya'll were the same. I said "not terribly different" -- same hemisphere, similar accents, European descent, blah blah blah.

Oh well, I guess my kiwi friends weren't joking when they told me "What do you call an Aussie with half a brain? -Gifted."


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Grok]
    #13327315 - 10/12/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ehh accents arent the same, plus they fuck sheep so

How does a kiwi practise safe sex? paint x's on the back of sheep that kick


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    #13327404 - 10/12/10 07:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: Grok]
    #13327410 - 10/12/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird! You can buy kava powder at the groceries in New Zealand, which culturally isn't terribly different from Oz (although don't say that to a kiwi).



The fuck?
kiwis are nowhere near the same as Aussies.





Dude I never said ya'll were the same. I said "not terribly different" -- same hemisphere, similar accents, European descent, blah blah blah.

Oh well, I guess my kiwi friends weren't joking when they told me "What do you call an Aussie with half a brain? -Gifted."




Wise friends you've got :lol:


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: nickc]
    #13329142 - 10/13/10 02:19 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

kavapills have never had any effect on my, what you need to do is find powdered, or fresh leaves and steep them in cold water, thats how it is traditionally done in hawaii and I've had good results from it. Says they were selling without a license, so I guess its more tolerated then the cannabis they had on them.


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    #13329380 - 10/13/10 04:45 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

leaves? thought it was root powder?
you're also supposed to chew it up and spit it back into the mixture so that the amylase in your spit can break down cells and something else helps to form emulsion. mmmmm wanna share?!?

aint it funny, i grew up being told that aussies were the sheepfuckers. i only discovered that you guys called us sheepfuckers when i grew up and met some of ya.

besides, we have much more sheep in a smaller land area and i dont like her friends watching


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: fostaar]
    #13329652 - 10/13/10 07:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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those rules seem to serve no purpose except to annoy people who want kava. very strange.

also, not to sound racist or ignorant but dont some indigenous communities also have huge abuse problems revolving around solvents and victoria bitter? probably not annoying to get a hold of petrol at all.






Yep, "In the NT, under section 18 of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1993, it is illegal to sell or supply petrol to anyone when it is known or should be known that the person will use it as a drug or supply it to someone else to use as a drug." I've seen some docos about this and they just wont sell petrol to some people lol.

And in the kava free zones they are alcohol free zones too.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: PsiPhi]
    #13329679 - 10/13/10 07:36 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Yep, "In the NT, under section 18 of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1993, it is illegal to sell or supply petrol to anyone when it is known or should be known that the person will use it as a drug or supply it to someone else to use as a drug." I've seen some docos about this and they just wont sell petrol to some people lol.



now theres a drug prohibition i can get behind :borat:


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: fostaar]
    #13330338 - 10/13/10 11:06 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

aussies are definitely the sheep fuckers.


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Re: [AU] Three charged over massive kava haul [Re: veggie]
    #13336865 - 10/14/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Weird that you can get arrested for kava in Australia while in the USA, and most other places, you can buy it in most drug stores and in bulk at herb and health food stores...




And, unless you're a collector, you wouldn't even give the plant a second look.

It's like this with lots of stuff that's restricted, in foreign countries.

Forbidden fruit syndrome. Without the emotional baggage, it's just not interesting to most people.

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