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[MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered
#13331517 - 10/13/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Naked man dies after being Tasered October 13, 2010 - KULR-8
BILLINGS - Police identify the man who was tased several times this weekend as 31-year-old Ryan Bain of Billings.
Billings Police are reviewing "Use of Force" policies after they tasered a naked man four times Sunday night. The man later went into cardiac arrest while being held at the Yellowstone County Detention Facility.
The un-named suspect was immediately transported to St. Vincent Healthcare where he was listed in critical condition. But a man who identified himself as a family member called KULR-8 Tuesday night and said the suspect died earlier in the day.
It happened Sunday night just after 11. Yellowstone County Sheriff's Deputy John Smith was off duty and was driving on 13th Street West near Avenue E when he noticed a naked man running through a neighborhood. Smith notified the police department and assisting officers were sent. Police say the suspect entered a house believed not to be his own before he stole Deputy Smith's 1992 Chevy van.
"I wasn't in the situation but I have full faith the officers did make that determination and used the best method out there that they had to their discretion at that time." Sergeant Kevin Iffland said that method was a taser.
According to Iffland, officers tased the suspect three times, twice in the back and once on the leg, in an effort to subdue him. Iffland said the officers put their tasers in drive-stun mode, a less intense shock. "What you're getting is a very short contact between the two contact point when we're using drive stun. And it's very acceptable to use it to make somebody comply in that sort of situation."
Officers finally subdued the suspect, but when they arrived at the detention facility the man began to fight officers. He was then tased a fourth time and placed in a restraint chair. "The medical person did clear the suspect and said everything's ok. So they're relying on the best information they have at the time," said Iffland.
He said medical personnel checked the suspect, but shortly after being placed in a holding cell the suspect went into cardiac arrest. The man was taken to St. Vincent Healthcare and according to a press release was listed in critical condition, but a caller who identified himself as a family member informed KULR-8 Tuesday evening that the man had died.
Officers say the suspect appeared to be under the influence and they had no choice but to try and apprehend him. Iffland explained; "whether they're using cocaine or some other drug or drinking alcohol or whether they have mental issues the first thing we have to do is provide safety for the rest of billings and for the person themselves."
As with any use of force case, whether a suspect is hurt or not, police will investigate what happened to determine if their actions were appropriate.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: veggie]
#13331629 - 10/13/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
"I wasn't in the situation but I have full faith the officers did make that determination and used the best method out there that they had to their discretion at that time." Sergeant Kevin Iffland said that method was a taser.
When "the best method out there" is getting people killed, it's perhaps time to reevaluate said method.
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As with any use of force case, whether a suspect is hurt or not, police will investigate what happened to determine if their actions were appropriate.
Why bother lying? Everyone reading this article knows what the outcome of that investigation will be already.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: SuperD]
#13331751 - 10/13/10 04:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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  killing caged dogs, killing unarmed naked people, whats next?
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: guest1]
#13332897 - 10/13/10 07:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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lets bomb some third world countries!
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EdgeChaos
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Trichodermatologst said: lets bomb some third world countries!

On topic: "Police say the suspect entered a house believed not to be his own before he stole Deputy Smith's 1992 Chevy van. "
Sounds like he needed a good tazin.
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That Cenex Guy
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: EdgeChaos]
#13333958 - 10/13/10 11:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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The guy was a complete dumbass, he definitely deserved to be tased, I don't see how people can say the police were in the wrong in this situation.
It's not like they went in with the intention to kill him with a taser, it's just a hell of a lot better option than a gun.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: That Cenex Guy]
#13334540 - 10/14/10 04:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't they teach cops how to detain/control a suspect over there? There are more than just the gun or taser options.. What happened to handcuffs??
Several cops with night sticks should be able to take down a naked dude. Unbelievable.
Not saying the guy wasn't being a douche but it doesn't say he tried to hurt anyone, just that he was "running around".
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: egodeathflux]
#13334820 - 10/14/10 08:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrooms, nakedness, and tasers is never a good mix. This is why i trip at home, indoors.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: Razzl3Frazzl3]
#13334858 - 10/14/10 08:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's hard to pass any real judgement the way the article is written. I would've tased the guy too if I was a cop and had a job to do. The victim seems like he lost his mind and was in some kind of primitive survival state. I doubt any other method would have successfully subdued him. He obviously should have been brought to a hospital and not a holding cell.
This is super sad. Condolences to the victim's family. Psychs are powerful. Be smart out there folks.
Edited by wietstocker (10/14/10 08:23 AM)
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: wietstocker]
#13334957 - 10/14/10 09:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gee, I gotta chase 'em down, figure out what's wrong and try to fix it....fuuuck! I didn't know we could just kill 'em? Some people got pretty lazy-cush ass jobs! I should have been lower functioning so I could be a hero too! (Just kidding - this does seem kinda terrible and poorly handled. I suppose all the justification is put out up front because it may not have even been a "legal killing")
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: curenado]
#13335621 - 10/14/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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The article makes no mention of the drugs involved.
Sounds like something scopalomine related.
Which can also cause cardiac arrest.
I'd taze a naked crazy fuck stealing my car too.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: vandago]
#13335638 - 10/14/10 12:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm surprised all he got was tazed. If he was in my house I probably would have shot him.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: EdgeChaos]
#13337566 - 10/14/10 08:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't dig naked maniacs on datura bra?
What the fuck you thinkin man. Shoulda gave him a hug and a blanket.
Come on people, the cops didn't shoot this guy in the head with a shotgun, they tazed him.
I wouldn't step up first to try and tackle the naked flailing dude either if I was in their shoes with a tazer.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: vandago]
#13338411 - 10/15/10 12:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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this guy hella had to be on one!
i would fall flat on my back on the first taze
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: veggie]
#13338436 - 10/15/10 12:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like he was on meth or something, and had some meth psychosis. If it was the tazer that killed him, it would have done it immediately after the shock. But since he was cleared after the tazer, he probably died from drugs. The tazer might have stressed his already stressed heart, but it didn't kill him.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: BothHands]
#13338618 - 10/15/10 02:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heh, on meth by day 4 I stay inside at all costs.
Datura I won't even touch again because I've known too many people to get naked/fight cops/run amock through streets/be violent/smoke cigs that aren't there/go into cardiac arrest/all of the above.
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Re: [MT] Naked man dies after being Tasered [Re: vandago]
#13339560 - 10/15/10 10:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tasers kill, a couple baton hits don't. Tase once, if the suspect is not cooperating use physical force.
Either way, Fuck the Police. Rise of the Proletariats!
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