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FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse
#13327850 - 10/12/10 09:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse October 12, 2010 - washingtonpost.com
WASHINGTON -- Drugmaker Alkermes Inc. said Tuesday it has received U.S. approval to market its addiction medication for use in patients addicted to narcotics like heroin and morphine.
The Food and Drug Administration approved the company's drug Vivitrol as a monthly injection to treat addiction to opioids, highly addictive drugs often abused for their euphoric effects. Vivitrol is already approved for alcoholism.
Shares drugmaker, which is based in Waltham, Mass., jumped 37 cents, or 2.4 percent, to $16.05 in aftermarket trading. The stock had slipped 20 cents to $15.68 during the regular session.
Vivitrol is designed to block brain receptors that deliver the pleasurable sensations associated with alcohol and drug abuse.
The drug was originally approved by the FDA in 2006 to treat alcohol dependence.
Alkermes asked the FDA earlier this year to approve Vivitrol to help patients quit addictions to opioid drugs.
The FDA approved the drug based on company studies that showed patients taking Vivitrol were more likely to be free of opioids than those taking a dummy injection. The typical Vivitrol patient reported opioid-free urine samples 90 percent of the time, compared with 35 percent for those not taking the drug.
"Opioid dependence is a growing disease and we believe that Vivitrol offers physicians and their patients a whole new approach, as the only long-acting, non-addictive treatment for opioid dependence," Alkermes CEO Richard Pops said.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: veggie]
#13329711 - 10/13/10 07:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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funny how the government can claim that opioid dependence is a growing disease while simultaneously pushing oxycotton tramadol hydrocodine ect.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: auronlives69]
#13329721 - 10/13/10 07:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Considering this is the same government that finds alcohol to be perfectly acceptable while demonizing marijuana..it's hardly surprising anymore. I can't wait to see legalization hit other states once Cali does the right thing.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: auronlives69]
#13329965 - 10/13/10 09:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its spelled oxycontin and hydrocodone. Also, the government isn't pushing anything. Getting those drugs isn't easy in most places, and even when it is you have to tell the dr you are in serious pain to get them. If they wanted to sell a lot more opiates they could always make prescribing them for addiction legal.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: fapjack]
#13330103 - 10/13/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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my aunt has diabetes and guess what they gave her, a lifetime refill supply of vicodine, im shure there are menny people out there are completely dependant on these opiates
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: auronlives69]
#13330152 - 10/13/10 10:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I don't know her situation, but lots of people have serious nerve pain associated with diabetes. Pain medication might be the only way for her to deal with her pain, I don't know. Drs rarely prescribe you pain meds without you complaining about it, unless its acute pain after a surgery.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: auronlives69]
#13330190 - 10/13/10 10:28 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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auronlives69 said: my aunt has diabetes and guess what they gave her, a lifetime refill supply of vicodine, im shure there are menny people out there are completely dependant on these opiates
That is too bad. Vicodan is not really very effective in her type of pain either, but is at least a little less problematic than some of the drugs being given to diabetics for neuralgia. At this time it does seem to me to be the lesser of worse evils, so maybe her doctor is more savvy about her current options and actually trying to look out for her as long as possible.
There was a study about a year or so ago that concluded that "Gee, sometimes people need opium" which was a laugh, because it was initiated to show that we use too much in practice.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: curenado]
#13330297 - 10/13/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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you are right about everything except subs being addictive as hell... i mean i guess if you are an opiate addict...
they are potent, but they dont really get you high just an opiated feeling. good enough for petergriffin though, LOL
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: 2859558484]
#13330786 - 10/13/10 12:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's stupid how they approve it based on company studies, I'm sure there's no bias there. Sort of like how I remember reading about the prozac company leave out the data that conflicted with their hypothesis and under report side effects.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: 2859558484]
#13330813 - 10/13/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know man - I have not had personal experience with subs to argue there, and it is hard to tell with some folks.
I meant specifically methedone, because in my day several people we knew were on it. It was utterly shitty - but they claimed it hurt to kick. I had a guy in-house kicking methedone once years ago and the girls told me they had heard him scream at night a few times. Put him on dilaudid step-down instead - didn't care what others thought. Worked. But - like I said, enough experience to know that what the literature says is OFTEN very different from people's experience.
I have always been a step-downer and used clonidine, soma and ativan type drugs prn for the heebies. All mine that wanted to though have been down in two weeks or less. I don't deal with unsures and lingerers because that is really not my practice. I have just helped out a few folks that got carried away with the "discrete" method. (If I say myself too - I actually can't. But....)
Clonidine in adjusted dose actually does knock out most of the harder abstinence symptoms, the rest are just supportive. In case anybody accidentally gets carried away....ya know..
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: 2859558484]
#13331953 - 10/13/10 04:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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they are potent, but they dont really get you high just an opiated feeling. good enough for petergriffin though, LOL
If I wanted to get high I would go back to paying for pods which are dirt cheap and get a proper high vs paying 300$ a month for subs which dont get me high. Subs work wonders for addiction and I could give a shit what you think about it, I've had 500 pods sitting in my attic left over from before I got put on suboxone and havent touched any of them. Go troll somewhere else
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13332328 - 10/13/10 05:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poppy pods are shitty, what did you get strung out 6 months ago?
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: fapjack]
#13332378 - 10/13/10 05:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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curenado You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13332718 - 10/13/10 07:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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fapjack said: Poppy pods are shitty, what did you get strung out 6 months ago?
you really have gotten hardcore peter
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: Urb]
#13332726 - 10/13/10 07:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe if you get shitty pods dumbass. If they were so shitty why would an OC80 not even catch me a buzz when I was actively addicted to pods? I was addicted to pods for 2 years not that I have to explain myself to a loser like you tho. Quit trolling every post I make because I mocked you for making a "Oh my dick is so huge" thread, what kind of queer makes threads like that on the internet.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: Urb]
#13332827 - 10/13/10 07:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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<<I dont know you or if youve ever had an addiction to strong opiates but you're way off thinking "its all done in two weeks".>>
I think you are confusing actual physical addiction with neurotic perceived need. You have been posting about being on subs and how desperately dependent you are for months - no one can buy that man. Being a "Addict" and being addicted are two different things.
You are not ready to be clear or use less heavy daily get-bys like most folks do. We all have our get-bys, hobbies, animal-mineral-or-vegetable. But I mean - don't you already have your next drug planned when you get denied subs? Aren't you the guy that is heading straight for a methadone clinic if you get denied and needing to know the current admission protocol for acceptance so you can manufacture it? (Gotcha PG Why I don't work it though, so y'all are safe )
That is way beyond the actual physical dependence part. If you aren't ready you aren't - no rag about that. I have my get-bys too and have to have "rules" because I'm around drugs all the time and would just be dead if I didn't. So would most of my friends.
I just won't participate in addiction treatment past immediate de-tox and physical recovery because I come from old school users and you either handle it or die, or you become this crazy acting desperate person and we just didn't do that in the old days. It fucked too much with our sense of dignity and no one got credit back then for having a drug problem. Now, it's a lifestyle. Back then, if you tried to have a "Drug Problem!" everybody laughed at you - dopers and squares alike. It was not only considered weak-on-purpose, it was also insulting to others because they felt like you were trying to bullshit them right in their face and insult their intelligence.
You often use the excuse of some "mental problem where you must" and that plays right in to industry profits. That is why you are allowed to. You are a voluntary consumer of yak at a good profit.
I mean, you can do what you want with your own time and health but as they say in NA "You are trying to bullshit a bullshitter man"

(But you should know that I am also against implants because I see that as a one way street guarantee to keep people on that stupid shit indefinitely like fentanyl patches - guaranteed addiction means guaranteed continuous sales. All it is.)
Most people get into a syndrome of bad health from extended play that they confuse with craving too - they feel bad because no one cleaned up their organs and really healed them better - they just got de-toxed.
The psychiatry I got; the psychology I have to trust to someone I have gotten to know, with the letters "PhD" after their name.
But the physical recovery part? There I am a master among my colleagues, because a vast majority of them are incredibly ignorant in their own profession here in the US and I went "progressive" 15 years ago.
Those idiots are still "mystifying" over cordyceps sinensis and using deadly shit on already dying people - which isn't funny, except when you are laughing about what over paid pudh-yutzes they are.
Oh and Urb....you know how many junkies and lifers I have known? A LOT more than you. You are still in the game playing stage - to lifers it is you who are the joke. To the addiction treatment industry too. But again, your business.
I was talking about serious grown ups who have to handle their dope.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13332964 - 10/13/10 08:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used poppy pods before, I think morphine sucks. For how expensive they are heroin is a much better deal, and so is any decent narcotic.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: fapjack]
#13333014 - 10/13/10 08:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morphine does suck - but if you have to do 24 hour shifts it lets your body rest some and you can still jump up fast when you hear your name. Some of the others are much more "hypnotic" and oxy is too hard to get your shit together fast when you need to. Hydrocodone you are like "Oh fuck'em. Me comfy." and hydromorphone is too hard to get your shit together fast and be actually fit. (Gotta be that!) A little morphy though and you can both rest some and be alert again real quick. Utilitarian purpose only for me.
My own day-off doc's for resting are hydrocodone, soma and marijuana, the locally famous "DocTail" I can't actually say I use on folks a lot.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: curenado]
#13333067 - 10/13/10 08:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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curenado said: You have been posting about being on subs and how desperately dependent you are for months - no one can buy that man. Being a "Addict" and being addicted are two different things. .
You are probably one of the dumbest people I've ever came in contact with. Go spout off your psuedo intellectual bullshit somewhere else cuz no one here buys it. If I wasnt an addict I would be able to stop opiates anytime I wanted but without subs I wouldnt even of made it past a few days I tried to kick on my own and just kept relapsing over and over and decided on suboxone. If I choose to use opiate replacement treatment to get my life back together thats my decision I dont have to justify a damn thing to you.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13333182 - 10/13/10 08:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't say you did, just wasn't buying the junkie whine because ALWAYS the next step is "Fuck you!" and yeah - heard it for years.
Your life, just people have as much right to know that is all complete bullshit in one's own head and it probably won't be, and does not have to be, the same for them. People have a right to good information. Your and urb's info only caters to you and the disgusting industry that makes millions off of it and has only made the problem worse. Lotta folks sick of hearing it and this is a two-way thread, not a whine thread in "Why don't people BELIEVE ME!" Call me a idiot all you want - my dope is under control and I play a daily part in society that is not utterly self centered and infantile. (Guess that does look like a idiot to you! )
btw - "Pseudo-intellectual" 1. One who attempts to flex intellect that does not exist within his or her own mind. 2. Can probably be found with a thesaurus in hand, while in a chat room, looking up new insults that are synonymous with "stupid" in order to boost his or her own undeserved ego.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: curenado]
#13333234 - 10/13/10 08:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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The industry isnt making much money off me considering my subs will be given to me for free via their patient assistance program in a month or two. My habit is under control too and dont act like you know what I do with my life saying that I dont play an active role in society and I'm self centered and infantile. Im getting my life together I go to intensive outpatient treatment 3 times a week and NA/AA meetings and am actively trying to find work since I was layed off. I'm only calling you an idiot for acting like you are somehow a better person than me and I'm some disgusting piece of trash because I chose subs to help me get off full agonists which I would of likely killed myself with if I kept going.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13333409 - 10/13/10 09:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't really say any of that - I just posted some info on coming down and you went nuts on me as the world's foremost authority. Have the thread dude...
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: curenado]
#13335252 - 10/14/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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~Oh and Urb....you know how many junkies and lifers I have known? A LOT more than you. You are still in the game playing stage - to lifers it is you who are the joke. To the addiction treatment industry too. But again, your business.
I was talking about serious grown ups who have to handle their dope.~
Excuse me. Are you seriously bragging about having junkies for friends? I'm sure your mother is proud of you.
You act like you know me or something. I won't disrespect this forum like you have , this isn't OTD.
All I have to say is go spout your rhetoric somewhere else.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: curenado]
#13335359 - 10/14/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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What exactly do you mean handle your dope habit? If you are a dope fiend you are either staying off dope or strung out with very few exceptions. I've never met someone that was successfully using opiates sometimes that had a full blown habit at any point. Sometimes people do it for short periods of time, but they always seem to get strung out sooner than later.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: fapjack]
#13335651 - 10/14/10 12:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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^^^ Exactly Ive never met anyone who could successfully chip. Only people who dont have access to a constant supply can do that. If i never would of discovered pods I never could of gotten addicted #1 because they are so cheap and #2 you dont have to search them out they are a click away.
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Re: FDA clears addiction drug to treat narcotic abuse [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#13336079 - 10/14/10 02:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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curenado said: You have been posting about being on subs and how desperately dependent you are for months - no one can buy that man. Being a "Addict" and being addicted are two different things. .
You are probably one of the dumbest people I've ever came in contact with. Go spout off your psuedo intellectual bullshit somewhere else cuz no one here buys it. If I wasnt an addict I would be able to stop opiates anytime I wanted but without subs I wouldnt even of made it past a few days I tried to kick on my own and just kept relapsing over and over and decided on suboxone. If I choose to use opiate replacement treatment to get my life back together thats my decision I dont have to justify a damn thing to you.
lol im loving this. OH how the mighty have fallen.
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