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spawn problem???
    #1332460 - 02/24/03 07:00 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

OK here is the problem. My friend Chunk is attempting to move beyond cakes and chose to spawn rye berries onto timothy hay. He read and followed the Great Timothy Hay experiement tek he found searching this web site. He chose to use timothy hay over straw or dung because it was easier to find and use tim hay (pet stores) than dung or straw (he lives downtown in a major US city, has no car to drive out to the sticks to find straw, is worried that his roomates wont like the smell of shit in his house, ect.) He colonized a pint jar of pressure cooked rye berries with Texas Cubensis, took about 2 1/2 weeks. He then simmered the tim hay in a big pot for 1 1/2 hours. He didnt cut it up as well as the tek said he should, pieces were a bit longer than 4 in. Drained and strained over and over and then placed in an oven bag. He popped the fully colonized rye jar out and used a cheese grater to break the berries up over the bag. He then shook the bag up to disperse berries further and tied the bag up loosely. He put no holes in the bag but opened it once daily to ensure air exchange. The bag is sitting in 75 *F room. It has now been 12 day and absolutely no growth has happened. The hay shows zero signs of colonization. According to the tek, full colonization of the bag should take approx. 14 days. He is confused as to why nothing has happened and has another fully colonized jar of rye berries (Ecuadors this time) waiting to be used and now has no idea what to do with it. Can anyone explain or help Chunk in any way. He figures the first bag is screwed but doesnt want to make the same mistakes with the next try. Thanks in advance...  :confused: 

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Re: spawn problem??? [Re: MrBump]
    #1332522 - 02/24/03 07:32 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)


The bag is sitting in 75 *F room. It has now been 12 day and absolutely no growth has happened. The hay shows zero signs of colonization. :

Perhaps the temps are a bit low? 75 degrees is pretty much fruiting temp, but colonization temps seem to be a bit higher, like 84 degrees. However one would think that some sort of colonizations would still be occuring, at least some kind of contams or something.

I havnt looked closely at the bags of timothy hay Ive seen, but maybe your friend could check the label and see if it has been treated with any sort of fungucides or chemicals? (Although the pasturization, draining and straining should get rid of a lot of that)

Jack up the temps to 85 degrees, make sure the bag is in darkness, and wait a bit longer.

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