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OfflineAngry Mycologist
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CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate
    #1331764 - 02/24/03 12:43 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Monday, February 24, 2003 Posted: 7:51 PM EST (0051 GMT)
Taken from http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/24/sprj.irq.saddam.debate/index.html

NEW YORK (CNN) -- CBS News reported Monday that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has challenged President Bush to a live international television and radio debate via satellite, saying, "As leaders, why don't we use this opportunity?"

"I am ready ... to conduct a direct dialogue, a debate, with your president," Saddam was quoted as telling news anchor Dan Rather in a three-hour interview. "I will say what I want, and he will say what he wants."

If Bush is "committed to war," Saddam said, this would be his chance to "convince the world."

Asked if he was joking, the Iraqi president said, "This is something proposed in earnest, out of my respect for the people of the United States and my respect for the people of Iraq and the people of the world. I call for this because war is not a joke."

The White House said it was not taking Saddam's debate suggestion seriously.

"There's no debating what's required of him," White House communications director Dan Bartlett told CNN.

CBS did not broadcast portions of the interview Monday, but it showed graphics of quotes from the interview. It said portions of the interview will be shown Wednesday on "60 Minutes II."

According to CBS, Saddam also flatly denied that Al Samoud 2 missiles violated U.N. range restrictions and indicated he has no plans to destroy them, as demanded by U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix. Blix has put a Saturday deadline for Iraq to begin destroying the missiles.

"Iraq is allowed to prepare proper missiles, and we are committed to that," Saddam was quoted as telling Rather.

Is the Al Samoud 2 proper?

"We do not have missiles that go beyond the prescribed range," he said.

Earlier, Iraqi officials said they were considering how to respond to the Blix demand that Iraq begin destroying the missiles this weekend.

If Iraq does not comply, White House officials said, Saddam is helping to make the case for a new U.S.-backed resolution, introduced Monday, that could clear the way for military action against Iraq.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1331795 - 02/24/03 12:50 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

I'm getting a blank tape ready as we speak.  It there is to be a debate, I'm not gonna miss it. :grin:

Who wants to wage a bet that Bush doesn't have the guts to debate his Nemesis?


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: MushyMay]
    #1331880 - 02/24/03 01:20 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

First Saddam would have to be serious. Are you so naive as to believe he is?


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1331905 - 02/24/03 01:27 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

First Saddam would have to be serious.

Well there's only one way to find out, Saddam has offered to pitch (even if he may just step off the mound at the last moment), now Bush should step up to the plate. I think it would be interesting if Bush accepted, then it would be up to Saddam to back up his words.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1331920 - 02/24/03 01:32 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Remember when Sadam challenged Bush to a duel... Now that would be good..

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"We do not have missiles that go beyond the prescribed range," he said.



Its true.. This is a source of GREAT misinformation.
All reports say that the misiles tested were only between 10 to 25 miles over their range limit and these misiles were missing their guidance systems which add extra weight and when added make them perfectly within their accepted range.

Its not like they have Thousands and Thousands of ICBMsand are the only nation ever to use a weapon of mass destruction on an enemy.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1331921 - 02/24/03 01:33 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

The least Bush could do is debate Saddam before he blows him to pieces.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Anonymous]
    #1331977 - 02/24/03 01:49 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

I agree with most of the responses so far. Seems like a perfect opportunity for Bush to "strut his stuff". If he tries getting his way out of this one (i.e. "I will not debate with an evil-doer!") then I think my previous feelings about Bush will be justified (In my eyes).


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1331993 - 02/24/03 01:54 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

I was just wondering this, but, has Bush and Saddam ever talked on the phone, or talked to eachother in real time?

If Bush doesn't "debate" with Saddam, and instead just goes and bombs him, I really feel that would be very unfair. I mean, really, we have only heard the US/UK government's point of view on the entire situation. We have never heard from Saddam himself, and that is pretty scary to me...we could be completely brainwashed to the fact that he even has any sort of weapons at all.

I dont think Saddam is joking... like he said War is not a JOKE! I'm sure he'd like to talk about this before getting most of his fucking country destroyed by the UN.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1332029 - 02/24/03 02:07 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Saddam was asked if he was serious and he said he was. I think it would be pathetic for Bush to dismiss a debate based on the grounds that "he" doesn't "think" that Saddam is serious. Bush should accept the challenge and see what happens. Personally I don't think he will do it. As stated above, maybe Saddam will back out at the last minute anyway. We'll never know unless they give it a try.

Of course this whole interview with Saddam could be fake. So it looks like Saddam challenges Bush, then Bush plays hard to get but caves in. Then, of course, Saddam doesn't show up and he looks like a liar. That would work well for the US. (note: this is simply a fabricated idea to illustrate that there is no harm in questioning EVERYTHING)


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: MushyMay]
    #1332034 - 02/24/03 02:09 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

If Bush is so sure of Saddam's "wrong-doings" then why would he back down from such a debate? We'll see.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: MushyMay]
    #1332036 - 02/24/03 02:10 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

It would be interesting. IMO, Saddam is full of shit and wouldn't follow through. Even if he was, I have my doubts as to whether Bush would take him up on it.

It would be quite the sight.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1332061 - 02/24/03 02:16 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Remember when Sadam challenged Bush to a duel... Now that would be good.



I would love to see that happen! That way, it's just one-on-one instead of a war, and no matter who wins, the world will have one less evil tyrant to deal with.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1332065 - 02/24/03 02:17 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

No doubt Saddam is full of shit. But he's put the offer out there so now the ball is in Bush's court.

I think it would be something of a spectacle if this debate were to go ahead. I really want to see Bush take up the offer. As I said, I'll have a blank tape ready. I really, really, really, really want Bush to do this. He has absolutely no justifiable reason not to debate Saddam.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: MushyMay]
    #1332114 - 02/24/03 02:45 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Theres no reason for bush to accept the challenge...
They will just say he wasn't serious and discredit him. :tongue:


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1332335 - 02/24/03 03:57 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Do you really think Bush's P.R. people would let him participate in an unscripted debate?

LOL :laugh:

Can't let the inarticulate hick embarass America(anymore than he already has).


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: MushyMay]
    #1332372 - 02/24/03 04:32 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Remember that he barely would even debate Gore and that the both of them wouldn't even think of talking to Nader.

Regarding the missles, A friend who used to target nuclear war heads for the airforce said that there is probably no way those missles are out of line with compliance and they could just be tested to see if they were anyway......


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1332389 - 02/24/03 04:40 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

they should have a boxing match.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1332416 - 02/24/03 04:47 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Instead of a debate, how about a reality show where Bush and Saddam have to live together for a month and complete bizarre "challenges"?


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Phluck]
    #1332429 - 02/24/03 04:51 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

In all seriousness, I'll bet Saddam would slaughter Bush in a one on one debate. Saddam just seems like a smooth talker.

Bush avoids press conferences, debates, and any situation where he has to think on his feet.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Phluck]
    #1332751 - 02/24/03 07:46 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Instead of a debate, how about a reality show where Bush and Saddam have to live together for a month and complete bizarre "challenges"?




"I'm a dictator, get me out of here!" ?


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Phluck]
    #1332871 - 02/24/03 09:25 PM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Exactly. There is no way that bumbling fuckwit could ever take part in a live debate. His speeches are a mixture of hollow buzzwords and inane drawl, with next to no actual content.

Frankly I think it's unacceptable for the white house to just ignore this opportunity because they "don't think saddam is being serious". So much for war being a last resort.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1333013 - 02/25/03 12:05 AM (21 years, 21 hours ago)

Bush does not have the balls to do it...


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1333095 - 02/25/03 01:31 AM (21 years, 19 hours ago)

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"There's no debating what's required of him," White House communications director Dan Bartlett told CNN.





what is there to debate?! saddam must do what is required of him. that is it.

people just want to be entertained.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1333943 - 02/25/03 08:02 AM (21 years, 13 hours ago)

You do know that Daddy bush supported (gave money to) Saddam H. and so really it is the Bush camp that has allowed this man to be where he is. Same thing with AL-queda, and Bin Laden, hehe our GOVT. bring em in, and then we go and take em out. Makes sense I guess. All the while american boys n girls die, and not to mention the other casulties of war.

Man shit, you don't think bush and saddam talk??

Holy shit man you got to be kiddin me.

Dont worry, pretty soon there will be another "attack" on the US soil, not by any outside forces but by our own govt. so that the powers that be can put into place the patriot act 2, further take away all rights, lock down the cities and control people in the name of "freedom"

Holy shit times are going to be so bad. Listen do any of you know the tactic of good cop bad cop? You know where 2 people are actually working together, but pretend to be fighting so that the person they are trying to trick/control will give in to the good cop, thinking to them selves "yea ok I did the right thing"

haha holy shit what a joke

Its the same trick here,

Saddam "Hey ummmm Bush lets have a debate man"
Bush "Oh uhhh no way man, you need to do as your told"
Saddam "umm well ok I will fight you to the death"
Bush "ok lets get some oil, set up total police state (just in case someone thinks what I am doing is wrong)"

It doesn't matter if Bush and Saddam ever have a debate.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: BowlKiller]
    #1333960 - 02/25/03 08:07 AM (21 years, 13 hours ago)

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Holy shit times are going to be so bad. Listen do any of you know the tactic of good cop bad cop? You know where 2 people are actually working together, but pretend to be fighting so that the person they are trying to trick/control will give in to the good cop, thinking to them selves "yea ok I did the right thing"





It is called the "loyal opposition". I have read the same conspiracy theories you have. I bet you are a christian that believes in the prophecies in the book of revelation,Huh.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1334057 - 02/25/03 08:34 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

bush should agree to the debate so we can finally figure out where saddam's bitch ass has been hiding, then take him out. End of the war right there!


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: flow]
    #1334093 - 02/25/03 08:43 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

Dudes, Saddam would SOOOO win that debate


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Anonymous]
    #1334147 - 02/25/03 08:57 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

ONLY....ON....PAY...PER...VIEWwwwwww!!!!!!!!...................


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: fadedpinkwings]
    #1334197 - 02/25/03 09:07 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

I think revelation is true.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1334200 - 02/25/03 09:07 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

Where has Saddam asked for the debate to take place. Because Bush sure as hell wouldn't go if it were in Iraq, nor should he.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1334212 - 02/25/03 09:11 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

If little bush doesn't agree to a public debate then that proves he's totally committed to war. That would cause me to wish on little bush the kind of painfull death some innocent Iraqi's are gauranteed to suffer.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Anonymous]
    #1334217 - 02/25/03 09:12 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

Why do you assume they'd be in the same place?


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1334223 - 02/25/03 09:16 AM (21 years, 12 hours ago)

Yeah! They'd have to meet for the boxing match, but not a debate.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Anonymous]
    #1334631 - 02/25/03 11:28 AM (21 years, 10 hours ago)

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Where has Saddam asked for the debate to take place. Because Bush sure as hell wouldn't go if it were in Iraq, nor should he.


They have this really cool thing called teleconferencing....


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Rono]
    #1334665 - 02/25/03 11:37 AM (21 years, 9 hours ago)

I don't think Dubya can use the phone, imagine him trying to figure out teleconferencing............


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1334754 - 02/25/03 12:10 PM (21 years, 9 hours ago)

I think it's clear that Saddam is doing what he can to illustrate the reality of the Bush Administration. Saddam knows that Shrub would never agree to such "games", and that's exactly the point Saddam is trying to make: The Bush Administration is not the diplomatic goddess she is dressed to be. However, if through some wild fluke Shrub did agree to the debate, there's no doubt in my mind Saddam would follow through.

In my opinion; as ridiculous a suggestion it is from Baghdad, Bush is obligated to agree to save his own grossly tarnished face.

I think it's absolutely laughable how simply subversive Saddam can be. That is, if one ignores the atrocities he brings to his own people.

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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1334865 - 02/25/03 12:40 PM (21 years, 8 hours ago)

I don't know one way or the other. I just realized that I jumped to the conclusion that Bush should debate Saddam no matter what, without knowing the full details of Saddam's offer. Note to self: do not form opinions based solely on Shroomery users' posts.


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Re: CBS: Saddam challenges Bush to debate [Re: Anonymous]
    #1334884 - 02/25/03 12:45 PM (21 years, 8 hours ago)

do not form opinions based solely on Shroomery users' posts.

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