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Inducing bad trips....
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Has anyone ever TRIED to have a bad trip? i've never gotten one but it seems like a bad trip would teach you most about yourself than a good one. just curious. maybe i'm just stupid for askign this, cause i probably wouldn't be if i've experienced bad trips.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Snoop Dog with mushrooms and an MAOI..

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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A good way to make someone have a bad trip is to keep saying " They ALL know about it ", " Everybody knows ", " Its not a secret anymore ". We did this to a buddy just joking and we had to calm him down for about 2 hours! Not recommended, we all felt pretty bad, we didn't realize he was so insecure!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Legoulash]
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lol Snoop Dog alone is enought to make anyone not black bad trip

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: peruvian spark]
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wow that is kinda shitty. i'll just wait for one, by probability it should be anwywhere within the next 5 or 10. kinda looking forward to it. i'll regret it i bet, though.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Bad trips can be seen as "mental conditioning", if you are mentally strong enough - you'll be fine, even if the trip does go bad. That's why we sometimes try to mess with each other, just to see what we're made of. But yeah, bad trips suck.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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IMHO...bad trips aren't good to try to induce. Only because it can leave a scar on your brain.  Just as you remember the good trips and feel great the next day after a good trip, you may remember a bad trip you don't want to remember and feel really shitty the next day.  It's up to you, but I wouldn't recommend it.  You never know what your capable of handling and it may be hard to stay in control of yourself.  :frown: 


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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I've TRIED to have a bad, trip, but dude it just doesn't work that way :smile: It turned out to be a great time :wink:


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: slushie9090]
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yes i know, man - I've had a "bad trip" before too, but I was answering the original question.. he's asking if you can MAKE yourself have a bad trip, and from my experience, this isn't possible, because you KNOW you're trying to freak yourself out and it just doesn't work.. in fact I'd say if you're afraid of freaking out on a trip, then TRY to freak out for a few minutes and it might cheer you back up :wink:

kind of a "face your fears" type of thing, I suppose


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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you dont need to have a bad trip to understand/learn the most about yourself. if your looking for insight on yourself or inducing ego death plan a high level 3 to level 4 trip. do it alone, somewhere where you feel very comfortable, in the dark with no outside distractions going on (ie. music, friends, family, tv, ect.) lay down somewhere comfortable, close your eyes, clear your mind, relax and ride the train all the way to the station.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: celestialtripper]
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Edited by TheHateCamel (12/05/07 09:31 PM)

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: TheHateCamel]
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no, you don't want to have a bad trip and shouldn't be too excited at the idea! it's horrible!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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How to have bad trips? Take a dosage that you're not comfortable with. Like 10 grams or over. Not that I recommend it. But if you're struggling to find meaning in your trips, why not attempt ego death? It's not something you can just summon, but pushing yourself into a bad trip can fuck you up pretty bad. Think if you snapped mentally and for the rest of your life would be a mess and learnt nothing rewarding.
But, why not do a higher dosage? It can be an interesting experience (not that I've got to try it, yet) and not for the faint hearted.
What's the biggest dose you've taken and how often have you shroomed?

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Sheepish]
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Taking a shower on acid was pretty wild.. but no bad trip came of it.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Intentionally having a bad trip is stupid. It feels wacko, and on top of that, your perceptions might be more geared towards negative thoughts.. You know, paranoia, suicide, kill your girlfriend, kill everybody, etc etc

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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I think this may work. Next time you are tripping close your eyes. Stand up. bend over with your head. Keep your eyes closed, and run in a straight line till you hit a wall or hard object. :tongue: 


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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If you want to have a bad trip just have a friend tell a passing cop that you are both tripping on mushrooms. My friend did that to me and the cop spent about an hour just fucking with us. It wasn't fun, but the cop didn't do anything.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Bad trips certainly aren't fun. I've had a couple trips that were "blah, this sucks" and one bad one. The bad one was 3 weeks ago or so, it was pretty damn bad. I had an auditory hallucination in the bathroom of sirens and then I thought I heard my door slam. I convinced myself that I was going to be arrested that night, that it was just inevitable. I tried to lay down on my bed to sleep but I was flipping the fuck out. I felt like my closet was just oozing evil because that's where my "shitakkes" were growing. The evil feeling grew and grew till I couldn't take it anymore, and I realized that I was going to be sick. It was unreal, I never thought it could happen. I ended up puking, then laying down, then puking again, and repeating that cycle. I remember thinking at one point that I had to get all this "evil shit" out of me and that I was going to throw out all my cult shit the next day. I puked around 8 different times I think, till the only thing I could puke up anymore was water, and even then I puked twice more to make sure. I was only satisfied when all the mushies were gone. I was bewildered, and I didn't know what to do. I told my (tripping) friend that I was filpping out and he's like "shit man" -- not all that helpful. I realized that I had to tell him to say exactly what I needed to hear, so I said "Dude, tell me that I won't be arrested tonight." He did. I felt just a bit better, but it was still bad. I rode it out for 2 hrs on the couch, and I finally felt a little sane. I was able to laugh while I was coming down, and besides being absolutely drained physically and emotionally, I was fine the next day (I know drained isn't fine, but I wasn't freaking out at all, I knew everything would be fine).

Moral of the story: If you have a bad trip, just remember you will be ok, at some point, you will be ok. But don't fucking ask for one!!!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Bad trips are not cool! however you do learn quite a bit from them. About a month ago i was tripping by myself, my girl friend was really drunk and started going off on me, nothing unusual, then she told me a mutual friend of ours had been talking all kinds of shit about me.
i got stuck in this loop where i kept replaying all these negative thoughts over and over, i finally managed to get out it when i realized my dog is probably my only true friend.
If you still want to have a bad trip try this: take all of your $ out of your bank accounts, take a huge amount of psychedelics and get on a bus to the largest city near you, go to the 'bad part of town' and find the scariest looking dive bar. Go inside and get really wasted, snort some coke, then hit on all the burly men and make fun of all the wymen, or vice/versa.
that should definately be a learning experience, or:
read "A Separate Reality" then find some wilderness and try to summon spirts


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: schmutzen]
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Hey the best way to induce a bad trip would be to concentrate on the thing that bothers you most and try to imagine worse and worse situations. Then just go with the spiral. Not realy a good idea though.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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Here is one way to have a bad trip (I really don't recommend this, if you do this, some of the things you do may cause you to get hurt, expelled, arrested, possibly deported... to put it another way, don't try this at home).

First take the hallucinogen or whatever. Then take some stimulants (caffeine, or cocaine if you can get it), enough to get your heart beating fast. Drink a lot of water with some ex-lax, then do #1 and #2 in your pants, load your pockets with drugs (weed, meth, coke, shrooms, anything you can find) and paraphernalia (pipes, razor blades, spoons, etc). Also carry some sort of weapon (if you have a knife, make a small cut on yourself somewhere and bleed all over the knife).
Now find some cops. Start cursing at them and waving the bloody knife at them, and tell them you killed some people and you're going to kill more. Show them all the illegal things you have (the more the better) and keep threating the police officers.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: thepodman]
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yeah that'll do it. :shocked: 


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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I have a friend who took 2 tripple stacked acid hits on some sugar cubes. The voices started telling him to kill his family. I cant tell the story with nearly the detail he can, but it started off with just telling him to make rancid meat, and places too hide bodies... but when he came down and went to sleep around 9 in the morning a day and a half after eatting it, he started a series of dreams where he fortressed himself in his room. We're talking drinking out of old coke cans, boarded up door, with a small corner pealed away, stabbing at your family members with a broken shard of a broomstick.... it happened for 3 dqays in a row. and this all happened when I first started to meet him, and I really noticed the change in him after that... ofcourse that much acid isnt equivelant to any ammount of mushrooms, I just thought I'd share.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
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Eat some mushrooms that might have been contaminated. You won't know if you are just feeling different or if you are actually sick from contamination/ your lungs are melting/ your coughing up chunks of your body organs/ that bubbling you hear and feel in your throat is actually stomach acid that was released upon your organs/ basically start the trip with a bad idea in your mind (contammed shrooms) and you will have a hell of a bad trip.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Druginduced]
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I ate contaminated shrooms on Christmas 02. I didn't know it at the time, but my trip fucking sucked. But it wasn't like a horrible trip. But it was like a "sick and puke" type of trip.

If you want to have a bad trip, do it when you're in a horrible mood in a place you hate and around people that annoy you and listen to music that you totally dispise or dark, evil type music. If that doesn't put you into a bad trip, I don't know what would. But I do not recommend inducing a bad trip. Bad trips really fuck you up (I've had a few that will be with me for a long time, and have actually had flashbacks of my bad trips).


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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The only bad trip that might teach you most about yourself is a "mind" bad trip. No cops, no other drugs, no friends who try to give you a bad trip, just you and your mind... a circle of bad thoughts and worries...

I have never had a bad trip and i don't want a bad trip...

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Annom]
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No trip is "bad" in my opinion. Some are just very intense and harder to handle. Scarry maybe, but always a learning experience. What some might call a bad trip I call a profound learning experience.
Be all and you'll be to end all!



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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: mntlfngrs]
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Tripping in your house alone while your parents are there I think would be enough to have a bad trip.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: mntlfngrs]
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listen to KMFDM extremelly loudly in a crowded apartement with dozens of people tripping balls and rolling and god only knows what else. Ask yourself, "why am i here". Freightening colour schemes are fucking nuts. DARK reds and blacks, terrible oranges from cold blue.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
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eh... during a bad trip, you're too busy being scared\paranoid\panicky to gain much from the experience....

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: jarby]
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nah, didn't give me a bad trip.


but they were sleeping, so whatever.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: schmutzen]
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my first trip(the only one soo far) 3 drops was a very bad one due to the bad set and setting, but made me realise that i was living a fictional reality with the lies that i created which pushed me to change my reality tunnel, i am agnostic, i have no belief system. i am completely lost in time.

i would like to trip on psychedelics again starting with a small dose and building up to higher doses to completely loose my ego and gain more insight.

any suggestions?

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: celestialtripper]
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yeah that sounds about right. they've always been crazy trips  when your going for a level 4 or 5 by yourself.
My first time i had one of thsoe was on a Half O of mush.
I don't have too many bad trips at all anymore. I can to an extent understand things.
That " they know" and  " don't tell him the secret" is kinda funny to do. but i hate it when people start doing that.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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can i mix them into a cocktail like blender and then i would have an ego loss drink?

ego loss drinks, do you think are they marketable?

any suggestions.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: ehem]
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btw what time is it?

im really lost.

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: ehem]
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Possibly.
you would just mark up the price of the liqour your use to includ the drug you added.
i don't believe theres much market though for this sort of thing. I usualy just do it so every now and then i'll be drinkin with my friends and then we'll trip a lil


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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Bad trip... hmmm the best way would to take a high dose, not listen to music, in a very warm room, (when I trip I NEED fresh air, or I feel faint) Even if the music is something you don't like, you can find something good about it while tripping... i find no music is more torture than music you don't like. Another way to ensure a bad trip, is to trip while people are around you arguing.
yelling always puts me in  a terrible mood.

Also really tacky cheesy cartoons, make for a terrible horrifying trip sometimes.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: RedRainDrop]
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okay
if the person hasn't ever tripped b4, thats the easiest people to induce bad trips to
tell em the worlds ending
or start speaking of some "secret"  ( even if its bullshit) and they'll be a lil off
generalized words like  "them, they, those people" freak people out
could tell em the shrooms there on have acid in them lol....i've been told theres acid in the weed i was smoking
but that was years ago when i first started and i kinda think thats a myth
i dunno man, just be careful. people are unpredictable on drugs


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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One sure fire way to induce a bad trip is to start wanting the trip to end during the trip. :feelsbadman:

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: nooneman]
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thats a sure way?
some of my best, hardest trips i've thought that. Then half way through when you start drifting back to reality i realized i wish i was still that f'd up.
but w/e just hope that dont mean i enjoy bad trip. LoL what would that mean


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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If you want out bad enough, it's instant bad trip. :thumbdown:

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: nooneman]
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I gotta be insane lol
I don't wanna post it but i think atleast i know how to end trips. I've just never done it cause i know it won't kill me and its all in my mind.
I do remember the first few times i've tripped i would want to go ask my uncle or my grandparents for help. LoL of some sort
but i never did because i  looked up my shit and found they won't kill me if there legit. Gramma and grandpa wouldda freaked anyways.
uncle might've been allright with it. But i never wanted to find myself in the hospitol for it. Seeing a needle grow as it's injected into you.
Gives me shivers thinking about such things.
...and yet i still persist that level 5 trip everytime


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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A little while ago i had a bad trip, but i think it was actually the shrooms. They were cubensis ko samui strain, and seemed as if they were a few days old because they were soft and broke up fairly easily. Does that make a difference? the effects i felt were: no visuals, dizzyness, disorientation, blurred vision, wobbly legs.

What does everyone rekon?

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Purple Haze]
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i love me some old school snoop dog when im trippin :shrug:

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: maximilian18]
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i'll ask you a few questions then try and help you out with your answer.
Did you have more than a half 8?
No offense, but your not an overly large person are you?
Do you have a tolerance and how do you know thats there strain?

I've had old shrooms. From what you've said it sounds like you just had street shrooms that are freeze dried. there is a difference


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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ha!

if you  want to explore the dark side of yourself, the shadow, look for it!

(You already know how)

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Freedom]
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theres much of ourselves to explore
both light and dark sides
you gotta take the good with the bad i think.
mushrooms are a tool we learn from while on them i believe. atleast when i am on them i am on them to think.
i almost think this question is redundant and might lead to non good vibe things.
you should know how to have a bad trip...did we just tell you how to freak people out for 3 pages? LOL


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Scudreloaded]
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Thanks,
I had about 40g fresh (not sure what half 8 is).
I wouldn't say overly large but about 85kg and 6'1. Fairly fit (not sure if that makes a difference).
I know they were samui strain beacause i bought them in thailand, Ko Samui haha!
I dont think i have a tolerence i've only tripped on shrooms a few times but i did trip on them the night before hand if that makes a difference?
I have had the same feeling before when i didn't properly dry my shrooms out and then put them in a saddy. Thats why i'm wondering if it can have that effect?

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: maximilian18]
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i think when you dry them they loose some form of potency.
and tripping 2 days in a row on the second day you might not trip as hard.
it can be achieved if desired. I usually just double up on my dosage when i plan on doing it multiple days.
unsure if this helps
its just something I've come across in my psychedelic journey.
Happy trails to you till we meet again


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