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OfflineHowardo
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Inducing bad trips....
    #1331692 - 02/24/03 02:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Has anyone ever TRIED to have a bad trip? i've never gotten one but it seems like a bad trip would teach you most about yourself than a good one. just curious. maybe i'm just stupid for askign this, cause i probably wouldn't be if i've experienced bad trips.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1331696 - 02/24/03 02:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Snoop Dog with mushrooms and an MAOI..


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1331703 - 02/24/03 02:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

A good way to make someone have a bad trip is to keep saying " They ALL know about it ", " Everybody knows ", " Its not a secret anymore ". We did this to a buddy just joking and we had to calm him down for about 2 hours! Not recommended, we all felt pretty bad, we didn't realize he was so insecure!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Legoulash]
    #1331736 - 02/24/03 02:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

lol Snoop Dog alone is enought to make anyone not black bad trip


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: peruvian spark]
    #1331737 - 02/24/03 02:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

wow that is kinda shitty. i'll just wait for one, by probability it should be anwywhere within the next 5 or 10. kinda looking forward to it. i'll regret it i bet, though.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1331774 - 02/24/03 02:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bad trips can be seen as "mental conditioning", if you are mentally strong enough - you'll be fine, even if the trip does go bad. That's why we sometimes try to mess with each other, just to see what we're made of. But yeah, bad trips suck.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1333108 - 02/25/03 03:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

IMHO...bad trips aren't good to try to induce. Only because it can leave a scar on your brain.  Just as you remember the good trips and feel great the next day after a good trip, you may remember a bad trip you don't want to remember and feel really shitty the next day.  It's up to you, but I wouldn't recommend it.  You never know what your capable of handling and it may be hard to stay in control of yourself.  :frown: 


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1333338 - 02/25/03 06:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I've TRIED to have a bad, trip, but dude it just doesn't work that way :smile: It turned out to be a great time :wink:


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1333348 - 02/25/03 06:25 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

bads trips can stay with you for along time.....i had a few, very intense and very scarey...i wouldnt recommend trying to have one, you can come out of it being pretty screwed up.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Rin]
    #1333379 - 02/25/03 06:35 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yes i know, man - I've had a "bad trip" before too, but I was answering the original question.. he's asking if you can MAKE yourself have a bad trip, and from my experience, this isn't possible, because you KNOW you're trying to freak yourself out and it just doesn't work.. in fact I'd say if you're afraid of freaking out on a trip, then TRY to freak out for a few minutes and it might cheer you back up :wink:

kind of a "face your fears" type of thing, I suppose


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1333488 - 02/25/03 07:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

you dont need to have a bad trip to understand/learn the most about yourself. if your looking for insight on yourself or inducing ego death plan a high level 3 to level 4 trip. do it alone, somewhere where you feel very comfortable, in the dark with no outside distractions going on (ie. music, friends, family, tv, ect.) lay down somewhere comfortable, close your eyes, clear your mind, relax and ride the train all the way to the station.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: celestialtripper]
    #1333518 - 02/25/03 07:30 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #1334906 - 02/25/03 02:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

no, you don't want to have a bad trip and shouldn't be too excited at the idea! it's horrible!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1335758 - 02/25/03 06:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

How to have bad trips? Take a dosage that you're not comfortable with. Like 10 grams or over. Not that I recommend it. But if you're struggling to find meaning in your trips, why not attempt ego death? It's not something you can just summon, but pushing yourself into a bad trip can fuck you up pretty bad. Think if you snapped mentally and for the rest of your life would be a mess and learnt nothing rewarding.
But, why not do a higher dosage? It can be an interesting experience (not that I've got to try it, yet) and not for the faint hearted.
What's the biggest dose you've taken and how often have you shroomed?


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Sheepish]
    #1336796 - 02/26/03 06:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Taking a shower on acid was pretty wild.. but no bad trip came of it.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1337516 - 02/26/03 11:51 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Intentionally having a bad trip is stupid. It feels wacko, and on top of that, your perceptions might be more geared towards negative thoughts.. You know, paranoia, suicide, kill your girlfriend, kill everybody, etc etc


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1337559 - 02/26/03 12:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I think this may work. Next time you are tripping close your eyes. Stand up. bend over with your head. Keep your eyes closed, and run in a straight line till you hit a wall or hard object. :tongue: 


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1337830 - 02/26/03 01:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If you want to have a bad trip just have a friend tell a passing cop that you are both tripping on mushrooms. My friend did that to me and the cop spent about an hour just fucking with us. It wasn't fun, but the cop didn't do anything.


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1337970 - 02/26/03 02:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bad trips certainly aren't fun. I've had a couple trips that were "blah, this sucks" and one bad one. The bad one was 3 weeks ago or so, it was pretty damn bad. I had an auditory hallucination in the bathroom of sirens and then I thought I heard my door slam. I convinced myself that I was going to be arrested that night, that it was just inevitable. I tried to lay down on my bed to sleep but I was flipping the fuck out. I felt like my closet was just oozing evil because that's where my "shitakkes" were growing. The evil feeling grew and grew till I couldn't take it anymore, and I realized that I was going to be sick. It was unreal, I never thought it could happen. I ended up puking, then laying down, then puking again, and repeating that cycle. I remember thinking at one point that I had to get all this "evil shit" out of me and that I was going to throw out all my cult shit the next day. I puked around 8 different times I think, till the only thing I could puke up anymore was water, and even then I puked twice more to make sure. I was only satisfied when all the mushies were gone. I was bewildered, and I didn't know what to do. I told my (tripping) friend that I was filpping out and he's like "shit man" -- not all that helpful. I realized that I had to tell him to say exactly what I needed to hear, so I said "Dude, tell me that I won't be arrested tonight." He did. I felt just a bit better, but it was still bad. I rode it out for 2 hrs on the couch, and I finally felt a little sane. I was able to laugh while I was coming down, and besides being absolutely drained physically and emotionally, I was fine the next day (I know drained isn't fine, but I wasn't freaking out at all, I knew everything would be fine).

Moral of the story: If you have a bad trip, just remember you will be ok, at some point, you will be ok. But don't fucking ask for one!!!


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Re: Inducing bad trips.... [Re: Howardo]
    #1339575 - 02/27/03 07:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bad trips are not cool! however you do learn quite a bit from them. About a month ago i was tripping by myself, my girl friend was really drunk and started going off on me, nothing unusual, then she told me a mutual friend of ours had been talking all kinds of shit about me.
i got stuck in this loop where i kept replaying all these negative thoughts over and over, i finally managed to get out it when i realized my dog is probably my only true friend.
If you still want to have a bad trip try this: take all of your $ out of your bank accounts, take a huge amount of psychedelics and get on a bus to the largest city near you, go to the 'bad part of town' and find the scariest looking dive bar. Go inside and get really wasted, snort some coke, then hit on all the burly men and make fun of all the wymen, or vice/versa.
that should definately be a learning experience, or:
read "A Separate Reality" then find some wilderness and try to summon spirts


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