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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Grow Supplies In Canada [Re: pyl91] 1
#13675193 - 12/23/10 10:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Iv got roughly 5-6 ounces of agar powder kicking around now but will be something I will look into when I need more for sure. Thanks for the addition!
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EvilMushroom666
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Merry Christmas fellow Canadians!
 Best of wish's to everyone!
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nexus1946
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Quote:
EvilMushroom666 said: Merry Christmas fellow Canadians!
 Best of wish's to everyone!
Nice! 
Right back atcha'! 
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Re: Grow Supplies In Canada [Re: nexus1946] 1
#13683292 - 12/25/10 02:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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very nice pictures EM and nexus merry christmas to both and all. santa looks like hes been down the chimney haha
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Grow Supplies In Canada [Re: hcrider] 1
#13724094 - 01/03/11 10:03 AM (13 years, 27 days ago) |
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I spent some time today trying to get a good deal on some grain for grain spawn. I first called around about WBS and of course the selection around is limited as it tends to be a seasonal item. Only thing I could find without cracked corn and grain chips was scotts premium finch seed on sale for $9.99 for a 8lb bag. I have used this WBS before and it is very nice to work with. I do believe it is a mix of millet, milo and nijer seed.
I also called 3 different feed mills around my town and not one single place had any type of grain usable for mushroom spawn. I am very surprised by this.
Having wanted to switch to rye or wheat berries for some time I thought I would head over to the bulk barn and see what the deal was.
As someone had mentioned earlier Bulk Barn in Canada sells "Hard Wheat Kernels" which are wheat berries. Here is what I found out:
Hard Wheat Kernels - $2.40 / KG $1.09 / LB 25KG bag = $60 + 10% off for buying sealed bag = $54
I went ahead and purchased 5.625 Kg - 12.4Lbs at a cost of $13.50

This will allow me to get my feet wet with wheat berries, but I am still looking for a cheaper source.
Hope this helps someone out, I will add it to the first post.
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EvilMushroom666
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Last night I choose to prepare 2.2Kg of wheat berries to get my feet wet so to speak. I first rinsed all the dust and other particles off the wheat with a few runs of filling and draining, before leaving to soak for 6 hours. After the 6 hour soak I placed the pot on the stove and brought to a simmer watching the grain carefully.
When the grain was hydrated I took the pot off the stove and drained off excess water before placing the wheat on a baking tray to cool. Once the wheat was dry on the outside I loaded into jars and PCed. All in all I think I much prefer wheat to WBS so far...if it was just a tad bit cheaper I would be set.
2.2Kg made 7L(Qt) jars and 2 small quarter pint tupperware containers.
Making 7L jars of spawn cost me roughly $5 which is to much to pay in my opinion. I will keep looking at feed mills and stores to see if I can find some rye or wheat berries cheaper. Hope this helps someone out in the future!
Edited by EvilMushroom666 (01/04/11 11:17 AM)
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nootch
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@eveilmushroom666 so what ya saying that I can use the wheat berrie\ wheat kernals for any monotub ? like this one ! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11533599#11533599 the reason I'm asking heading out today and shop for this and that cuz I'm movin from brf\perlite shotgun FC to the monotub. thanks in advance
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Grow Supplies In Canada [Re: nootch] 1
#13729304 - 01/04/11 12:55 PM (13 years, 26 days ago) |
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You could use Wheat Berries as GRAIN spawn to later inoculate a bulk substrate for a mono tub. Yes.
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nootch
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I have a couple questions if ya have the time to answer?
1.after the soak for 6hrs you simmered, how long was the simmer? 2.how did ya come to the conclusion they were hydrated enough? 3.how does one tell if they are dry enough to place into jars for inoculation? the toilet paper test?(like in RR vidz) I just want to get this right so I don't mess things up or get to many contams, plan to do 10 1-liters(quart) jars to one syringe(10ml)for one mono tub, not sure if that ratio is good for one mono tub ?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Grow Supplies In Canada [Re: nootch] 1
#13746937 - 01/07/11 11:08 AM (13 years, 23 days ago) |
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1. The simmer was about 20-30 minutes. 2. When the kernels are easily broken between your finger nails but are not mush. Once you do it a few times you can easily tell when its ready. 3. Toilet paper test is a good method to use 4. I do not grow actives so I have no idea about a proper mono tub for them. I would suggest searching the forums for that information as it will not be hard to find. A good spawn ratio for cube spawn to bulk is usually 1:4.
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very helpful list just thought i would say thanks EvilMushroom666S for a job well done
-alcohol lamp -any idea where they sell these?
perhaps you could add these to the list -traditional yeast - lily white cornsyrup
they are probably not that difficult to locate so i could see why you may have skipped over them
thanks for the information much appreciated Shroomery ,Sponsors & Users
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Thanks EvilMushroom666 [Re: Creed] 1
#13807652 - 01/18/11 12:46 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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You can buy an alcohol lamp online at many of the lab supply companies listed in the original post. You could also look into making your own.
Personally for safety and ease of use I prefer a propane torch.
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Creed



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Propane torch works great i use it all the time i have 3-5 torch heads so this makes it easy for me to find a slow low burner torch head for sterilizing
-lighters seem barbaric considering you have to light it up with hand after each jar - propane torch generally has a nob that allows for accurate flame adjustments & comes in many different options vertical and horizontal & expensive adjustable ones
- Becareful some models come with simple on and off settings & or a built lock switch or button -For most these are useless and uneconomical as the propane is used up 2-5x faster -for most uses u only need a low to mid high temp adjusting to your needs
but ya aside from a little bulky i think it will work good on a low burn - the time to sterilize will definitely be reduced compared to most devices used
-maybe add Propane Torch to the list of things as a alternative to lighter/alcohol lamp its more locally available and works just as good
Thanks again EvilMushroom666 Saved me some $$
& thanks Shroomery , Sponsors & Users
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: I Love Propane & Propane Accessories [Re: Creed] 1
#13808420 - 01/18/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Glad I could help out
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Peterthinks
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Propane torch all the way. No soot, adjustable and makes anything red hot in about a second. You can't spill or break it either. You do have to watch it when it's on but I don't consider it any more dangerous than a glass bottle filled with flammable liquid and set on fire...on purpose.  To hell with soot. Burnt thumbs..
Why use a lighter?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: I Love Propane & Propane Accessories [Re: Peterthinks] 1
#13810533 - 01/18/11 08:22 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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I prefer the Fat Boy propane tanks with whatever soldering nozzle you have kicking around. They have a wider base so are a bit more sturdy I find.
One 17OZ tank costs me $5 and change and seems to still have a fair bit left even after all these months of use. Cannot go wrong IMO.
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Re: I Love Propane & Propane Accessories [Re: Peterthinks] 1
#13810565 - 01/18/11 08:27 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Oh yeah...lily white corn syrup... I'm testing "Crown" syrup right now.
As for yeast don't bother tracking down anything fancy.


 Brewer's yeast, natural yeast, organic yeast. Doesn't matter.
If aliens invaded and they needed ground up people to make soup they wouldn't care what part of the planet we lived on.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: I Love Propane & Propane Accessories [Re: Peterthinks] 1
#13810603 - 01/18/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Iv played with a few different brands of syrups and have not really cared for any of them. If I am making a sugar based LC I tend to lean towards the LME/Dex recipes after being turned onto them by Hamloaf. Has not steered me wrong and is very consistent in results.
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Peterthinks
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Yeah I know but I'm not gonna buy a 5 pound bag of malt when I use it 4 grams at a time! I'm trying to work with what I got.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: I Love Propane & Propane Accessories [Re: Peterthinks] 1
#13810794 - 01/18/11 09:04 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Im not bashing the method just stating personal preference
I got a 500G bag of LME for 5 dollars and change down at a brew your own store. I place a small amount in an air/water tight container for immediate use and then the rest in a large air/water tight container until I need a refill. Iv been using the same bag of LME for close to a year now and easily have 300 Grams left.
How much does a jar of corn syrup run?
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