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 Humboldt_Hunter
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 Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season  [Re: auweia]
#13562251 - 11/30/10 10:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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i concur.
this season will get better. the rain will come.
i guess i should be posting my finds in this thread although i am 5 hours north of you guys in the bay area...
the climate here in humboldt is much more temperate than the PNW seeing how it is a temperate rain forest and all.
here is a patch i found that has been producing all month. it is the only one fruiting this time of year but last season i was finding them around January.
from a few days ago
earlier this month. same patch
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cyanophilus
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
#13563435 - 11/30/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Saw about 400 friscosa fruits yesterday from the giant patch that I heard was planted last year, growing on a 60ftx12ft island that is fully colonized. Saw 3 cyanescens patches from last year, all but one were fruiting meager, one was exploding but there was caps everywhere cause someone raked the patch right where they grow (and only where they grew). Saw about 40 cyanescens caps total, some really beautiful hygrophanous caps.
no working USB port or I would have considered pictures, sorry for the playboy quality story without the porn to go with it.
...then I went hunting through the forest, found tons of boletes - about 30 zelleri, 20 gold butters, 4-5 red butters, 80+ porcini........ then apparently I got too close to some dudes property cause he came running down this giant hill cussing and started throwing punches at me. I put my hand out to shake his hand and started to introduce myself. Fir thing he does is punch me in my broken arm that is in a sling, then punched the hand I put out to shake his with... Then he took a few at my face and I 2-stepped/dodged punches for about 15ft away from where we started until he calmed down to a level of constant loud yelling about how I might be someone who is going to vandalize his house. Once he found out I was a hiker/hunter he started chasing me off calling me an ecoterrorist and a jobless bum "why dont u go buy them like normal people, this just proves your someone who will vandalize my house and threaten my life!!!!"
apparently the guy has vandals and threateners in his neck of the woods, I sure wonder why someone who runs up to people punching them and cussing at them would have problems like that.
...if I didn't have a broken arm I probably would have engaged in his testosterone nonsense.
lost my good spring assisted knife while dancing with him, and my friend fell asleep while cooking the boletes and they turned to charcoal.
...on a side note, chants are about by the buttloads - in places they never grew before.
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piggy
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: cyanophilus]
#13563503 - 11/30/10 03:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Probably got a big grow going on or has just killed and burried the wife in the veg patch.
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psilynut
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: piggy]
#13563822 - 11/30/10 05:04 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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From GGP,I shoulda checked this spot sooner there were so many big black ones ,I also found a handful scattered about on a giant lawn a few miles away from GGP.The first one I found was so small I didnt think it was a cyan/or frisco at first but then it stained blue.     
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cyanophilus
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: piggy]
#13563994 - 11/30/10 05:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
piggy said:
Probably got a big grow going on or has just killed and burried the wife in the veg patch.
hes developing on an old nature preserve(basically) that had turned into a public park.
-- the locals voted NO to the developement when it was proposed, and from what I hear he bought out the land from the city for more than they were asking so they just handed it over and squelched the vote -- and continues to building sardine-can suburband houses in it.
the land harbors one of the largest diversity of species in short area, around 10+ boletes, chants, matsus, etc growing rampant everywhere you look.
the locals are fucking furious, this spot feeds hundreds of people and keeps many locals heads above water with the restaurant sales.
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Humboldt_Hunter
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: cyanophilus]
#13564176 - 11/30/10 06:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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that guy is NUTS. crazy with a capital K
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 auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
#13564763 - 11/30/10 07:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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San Francisco penninsula
San Carlos, Redwood City, Atherton, Menlo Park, where I grew up as a kid. Found four new spots today, including a brand new p ovoideocystidiata spot in Redwood City
...and cyanophilus, sorry to hear of your encounter, sounds like a grade a turd...and Humbolthunter, please feel free to include Humboldt in the bay Area as there is no Official Northern California thread (and I used to pick liberty caps in Humboldt and Del Norte  )
One note, for the top layer wood chip cyans group, it is consistent across the bay area with some exceptions>>>many many half dried pins, but rain soon, maybe just in time...It's another confirmation today for me that the season has barely started>>>
commercial building, south san francisco, I found last year, barely started and the few already dried out
Redwood City, commercial building complex, BLACK Scotts mulch..Mycelium extends three times as far the fruits shown (note --- has potential...hehe)  
Redwood City, huge residential complex..the Scotts Sierra red looked a little new. I came across the mailman and asked him and he said they were laid down a month ago..I told him I'll be back next year!
p ovoideocystidiata..brand new find, now the second this year near San Francisco...already half dried, shows major bluing in places...The mycelium is much larger than the tiny patch fruiting...note to self ---has potential..hehe
  
Redwood City - residential complex
p franciscans and possibly another merge with some p cyanescens
right in front of somebody's house
   
ran out of daylight time, but spent a good hour in Atherton, one of the wealthiest cities in the country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherton,_California
It's been nearly 30 years since I really checked out Atherton..I went to Los Lomitas elementary on the border back in 1970, when I was 6 years old...I remember very clearly the rich huge houses, but a funky neighborhood, looked undeveloped and rural until you got inside the private gates
update 2010 > appparently a lot of people have decided they no longer want the 'rural funky look' and have laid down wood chips outside their properties, adjoining the public streets
still a lot of areas look like the original back in the 60's Atherton, but a whole heck of a lot of wood chips outside on the non-existent sidewalks now (there are no sidewalks in Atherton--LOL)
I'm telling ya, I could spend all day long cruising the side streets of Atherton now, 30 years later, knowing what I know and what i saw today...it has potential...Menlo Park too
house in Atherton today, with my bike in the front yard
yeah huh
Edited by auweia (11/30/10 08:02 PM)
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The Thinker
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13564816 - 11/30/10 07:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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sporeless ovoids in your brand new patch?
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: The Thinker]
#13564848 - 11/30/10 07:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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sorry to all those asking for prints of the San Francisco ovoids...I tried it twice with 30 caps each and still got shitty prints...only a few worthy of sending out...these things are weird...never seen anything like it around SF..Even the conical types found last year I could get good prints
and yet my fingers get black when picking...it's like once you pull the stem out, they stop sporing...must try different strategy
Edited by auweia (11/30/10 07:59 PM)
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13564900 - 11/30/10 08:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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also, one for Alan Rockefeller, on of our OPs in reference to a previous post on this thread, a couple weeks ago
Redwood City today...getting closer
I went to Sequioa High School....lol
Edited by auweia (11/30/10 09:29 PM)
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The Thinker
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13564907 - 11/30/10 08:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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did you notice that a couple look sterile?
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: The Thinker]
#13564916 - 11/30/10 08:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know that about the new ovoid find today...they're too dried out...that's not what they look like in normal wet stage
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The Thinker said:
did you notice that a couple look sterile?
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13564969 - 11/30/10 08:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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todays San Francisco (Redwood City- suburbs) ovoids back home
they look alot like cyans and friscosa and francicans at this point, don't they?
yet it's diabolically hard to tell them in the wild compared to cyans, aren't they?..different color in the wild, looks like many other wild LBM's which makes them quite dangerous to the untrained eye...seriously..especially when it all gets dried out like this
NO, they are NOT 'sterile'...they are just unusual and extremely rare for San Francisco, like few people have seen...only been seen maybe 15 times in the last 5 years or so around san francisco
just showing it like it is, out in the wild...it's not easy and it takes an expert in many cases..most people even halfway familiar with the cyanscens group do NOT have a clue that these are any good
but I'm telling ya, this one is dangerous..It's too close in color to other LBM's under some conditions - like we're used to here in the Bay Area
better make sure before you eat, or post a very good pic here
remember this, always SAFETY FIRST
got it?
and of course, you're unlikely to encounter this, in you travels about the San Francisco bay, but if per chance you do
do not eat, send photos instead..dry them out..these mushrooms are difficult even for the experts
not your normal cyanescens group by any stretch of the imagination
Edited by auweia (11/30/10 09:10 PM)
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The Thinker
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13565321 - 11/30/10 09:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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that patch sure has oddly light gills in maturity for having spores, weird.
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: The Thinker]
#13565450 - 11/30/10 10:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes it is weird and is something rarely seen around San Francico...it closely resembles, much further in color, other LBM's, than cyans do
we are not used to this species around San Franscisco, ever, and certainly not in the last 30 years
it does indeed have lighter gills in the wild, along with and a lighter cap color compared to p cyanescens and p fransicans....on top of a more fragile handling of the species more common with other LBM's than they are with cyans--which makes them categorically confusing and very possibly dangerous
but the few finds have been found to be proof positive and confirmed one hell of a trip, same or better than cyans
don't fuck with these in the wild...take photos and post them here if you happen to even think you find them
you are MUCH safer identifying normal p cyanescens group and p franciscans here around San Francisco
which is still the norm, in 2010-2011 
here comes the rain
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The Thinker said:
that patch sure has oddly light gills in maturity for having spores, weird.
Edited by auweia (11/30/10 10:27 PM)
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masspan
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13566668 - 12/01/10 06:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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 (speechless)
the variations are stunning, and wtf! these are all new to the west coast within the last 12 months?!?
awesome habitat shots too, i can't wait to be on the west coast at some well timed point!
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: masspan]
#13567163 - 12/01/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's been suggested many times that these new species are planted or introduced somehow
but there are clues...both the San Francisco and Redwood Ciy landscaping are less then 2 years old...both landscaping areas also have the red hypholomas nearby which is very common for new landscaping, especially the red Scotts chips..Nobody is going to plant red hypholomas or mycenas, and yet those manage to spread themselves just fine through the air
so why would it be any different with another species?
nobody can prove they were or were not planted, but I seriously doubt they were planted
and my main clue is the fact that other species take hold of the same landscaping nearby and have absolutely zero value to anyone, not edible or anything. You could have a conspiracy theory where the diabolical doctor spore in the white lab coat and really dark shades works at the the wood chip landscaping processing facility over in Crocket in the east bay, but why on earth would he bother with mycena and red hypholoma?
Edited by auweia (12/01/10 10:05 AM)
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Humboldt_Hunter
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13571459 - 12/02/10 01:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe i have found that type of psilocybe here in humboldt. but i could be wrong...
i found them aleady dried, the caps were very gold just like fransiscans and cyans, slight blueing but had much darker bruising like your pics.
i picked them thinking they were cyans but as i sat in class looking at them more carefully i came to the conclusion they were nothing special and i tossed them.
they were very fragile.. the stems fell apart very easily.
i am hoping they will fruit again this year so i can take pictures and post them for you guys.
i didn't want to fuck with them at the time and they did confuse me.
seriously nothing like Franciscans or cyans...
here are some pics of some cyans i had in my fridge for about a few days. they turned super blue and thought i'd share the pics. they wont last forever so they're drying now.
    
Edited by Humboldt_Hunter (12/02/10 02:06 AM)
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auweia
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
#13573985 - 12/02/10 03:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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day around the bay - marin county - december 2, 2010
you know that cold weather we've been having the last couple of weeks?...they love that under the ground, unless it's a hard freeze...the cold causes primordia formation and then pins
hang on to your hats, it's about to get better
 
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13574683 - 12/02/10 06:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice pictures.
I noticed that some of the P. franciscans caps are cracking when they get dry, and I do not see cyanescens do that. Do you think that is a consistent difference? Have you seen the cap on cyanescens crack when it dries out?
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